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The Entire D6 Interview With Microsoft's Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer (3 of 6)

We’re posting all the interviews from the sixth D: All Things Digital conference that took place in late May.

Unfortunately, due to issues too complicated to go into, we have to post all the D6 interviews in several 15-minute parts (I know, I know).

But–as many readers have requested–they will all be available in their entirety over the next few weeks in this column.

Here’s Part 3 of 6 of our discussion with Microsoft Co-Founder Bill Gates and CEO Steve Ballmer, who were interviewed together by Walt Mossberg and me on the conference’s opening night.

(I will be posting one video part of the Gates/Ballmer interview every day this week, including Saturday.)

In this video, Gates and Ballmer talk about their strategy for online advertising, Google (GOOG), Windows Vista and Microsoft’s (MSFT) efforts to take over Yahoo (YHOO), including Ballmer doodling on a white board as Gates look on.


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What’s happening is that we might, in fact, be at a time in our history where we’re being domesticated by these great big societal things, such as Facebook and the Internet. We’re being domesticated by them, because fewer and fewer and fewer of us have to be innovators to get by. And so, in the cold calculus of evolution by natural selection, at no greater time in history than ever before, copiers are probably doing better than innovators. Because innovation is extraordinarily hard.

— Mark Pagel, fellow of the Royal Society and professor of evolutionary biology, in conversation with Edge.org