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Who Cares If Apple Bans Some Porn in Apps Store? Overheated Bloggers, That's Who!

Big deal.

Apple is banning some “sexy” apps in its App Store and not others. So, “Sports Illustrated” swimsuit models are in and some others, such as one called “Dirty Fingers,” get nixed.

Apple’s Phil Schiller, who runs product marketing for the company, told the New York Times yesterday that some sexually suggestive material would be banned, after complaints by App Store users.

“It came to the point where we were getting customer complaints from women who found the content getting too degrading and objectionable, as well as parents who were upset with what their kids were able to see,” Schiller said to the Times.

On keeping the “Sports Illustrated” app in, Schiller pretty much admitted it was a subjective choice on Apple’s part.

“The difference is this is a well-known company with previously published material available broadly in a well-accepted format,” he said.

Of course, it was yet another subjective choice–in a long line of them–by Apple (AAPL).

The company always engenders a lot of controversy, since it does whatever it likes on a wide range of issues, such not using Flash technology in its upcoming iPad.

And what with the introduction of that tablet device soon and its obvious focus on selling it into the mainstream rather than to the sweaty-handed demo, Apple not getting its sexy back and dumping some of the naughtier developers just like that seems to be pretty much expected.

There has been an explosion in the number of sexy apps for the iPod and iPhone, of course, as the platform has grown. They are–no surprise–often among the most popular. And while Apple has parental controls, we all know where sexually suggestive material is allowed to thrive on the Internet, it takes off like kudzu.

That might be fine for a while and for some other app sellers, such as Google (GOOG) and its Android mobile offerings.

But what Apple is doing is not unlike any big retailer, like Walmart (WMT), banning porn sales in stores.

Still, in what can only be described as a really awesome attempt at feigning (traffic-generating) indignation, some bloggers are acting as if Apple just took the the First Amendment and stomped all over it.

And although Apple does do that from time to time, as do many other Web companies, this is business, plain and simple.

Making specious arguments that Apple’s Safari browser lets you surf right over to porn is a dopey comparison of the severely juvenile.

A browser does not approve or recommend, as the App Store does, but it simply a vehicle to get you there, much as a car drives you to a mall.

Once you get to those stores, it is most certainly up to the retailer to decide what it is willing to sell and not sell.

As to the “hypocrisy” of Apple changing its mind on these things, for anyone with even a passing knowledge of Web history, this practice has been all too common.

AOL (AOL), which I dubbed “The House Sex Chat Built” in my first book about the once-popular service, drastically cut back on its sexually controversial stuff as it moved to the mainstream.

In fact, AOL even considered starting a separate gated business that dealt with racier online fare.

Perhaps Apple will do this, creating an area of the App Store that is much more clearly blocked and less accessible.

And perhaps not. After all, it is Apple’s App Store and not subject to collective decision-making by those who think it a basic right to swipe clothes off a lady on the iPhone.

Thus, Apple will–even if it does need to be less opaque about how decisions are made–do as it pleases.

And to those critics who cannot seem to accept this, I predict you won’t ever find the satisfaction you seek.

Perhaps, then, it’s time to get back to contemplating the skin-deep mysteries of Chatroulette.


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  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    Oh thank $DEITY that someone is finally pointing out that all the carping and kvetching by the blaaaahgosphere on this is just linkbait.

  • Anonymous

    Face it, if they allowed porn or similar stuff in, the SAME critics would tell us how iPads and iPhone would NEVER be used in the workplace for sure now! They would also never be used in SCHOOLS for the same reasons. Right? admit it!

  • Anonymous

    I fully agree with Kara’s blog. As Apple’s apps store is not separated, nor restricted for specific age groups, Apple has the right, as well as the responsiblity, to offer what apps in their store that is suitable for all.
    All stores, whether it be a retail or etail outlet, has the right to offer or sell “sexy” materials, so long as they are able to set or establish a system that can control the age of the buyers. No system is fool proof, but to have no system is just foolish.

  • Anonymous

    Plain and simple its censorship. And with Apple’s broad brush it has already affected non-porn apps too.

    The supreme court just ruled against any form of censorship – so this is unconstitutional.

  • http://www.marketingtactics.com/ davebarnes

    I don’t see http://www.simplybeach.com/ as one that should be banned and yet it was.
    Apple has the right to ban any app, but given its monopoly, should be reasonable and not so capricious.

  • ianf

    I have to ask you about the meaning of the second illustration accompanying this text….. http://kara.allthingsd.com/fil.....15;182.jpg

    While the first, http://kara.allthingsd.com/fil.....15;300.jpg does seem to be on topic, the lesson of the second, “kudzu covered house,” so far eludes me. Are there, like, hares shagging mercilessly in the underbush[sic!] or something, is that what you or your editor aimed at to underline the point?

  • Anonymous

    I think the Apple decision on porn is instructive to anyone who makes a decision to build their business within the channel of a larger player. Here’s my post on the subject: Apple Weeds Porn from the Store — The Lessons http://bit.ly/aa1i1R

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    Oh thank $DEITY that someone is finally pointing out that all the carping and kvetching by the blaaaahgosphere on this is just linkbait.

  • imagitec

    These apps are porn? Seriously? My, you lead a sheltered life.

    Apple has the right to do what they want in their app store, but let's not sugarcoat it for you or weaken the meaning and usefulness of the term. It's like throwing around terrorism.

  • sean5155

    You may notice most of those bloggers are male as well. Don't touch their guns, netbooks, or porn.

    Oh, the outrage.

  • rebecca7855

    Yeah “just some bloggers” http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8530124.stm
    The main problem is that with Apple devices you can´t use any alternative sources for your apps. It´s fine that Apple doesn't want erotic (it´s not even porn) apps in THEIR store the big problem is that as the apple store is the only place you can get apps they remove the ability for all users, including for those that have the legal age, live in a free country and do not mind erotic apps. Google does not want to host porn either but at least those who want so are free to install those things from other app sources.

  • http://thingsinlife.co.uk/ lilscottieme

    Nothing wrong in people voicing their disapproval on something that they do not think is right.

    Don't know how many bloggers are getting “overheated” by apple's decision. But I seen it on bbc news website and I think its wrong for them to approve apps and then pull them off later because a small number of people complain.

    Yes Apple can decide how they want to run their business, but be up front and give notice on your intent and set guidelines and stick to them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1289488325 facebook-1289488325

    Censorship is not against the law. It never has been. The first amendment simply says that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech. Got it? Congress can't censor free speech. Anyone else can.

  • http://anwaraizer.tumblr.com Anwaraizer

    The problem isn't that Apple is banning certain types of apps, it's that companies built businesses on top of the platform and then Apple changes its policy after the fact. If Walmart bans a video game your company created, it can still be sold in Best Buy, Gamestop, or any number of national outlets. The app store is the only way to reach the tens of millions of iPhone and iPod Touch owners.

  • http://crankygeek.com Jack Brewster

    The fact that you can't install non-Apple approved apps isn't a problem. It's a design decision. If someone feels restricted by that, they shouldn't buy an iP*. If enough people feel that way and stop buying Apple's stuff, they'll change their policies.

  • Anonymous

    I think the Apple decision on porn is instructive to anyone who makes a decision to build their business within the channel of a larger player. Here’s my post on the subject: Apple Weeds Porn from the Store — The Lessons http://bit.ly/aa1i1R

  • chipotlecoyote

    “The fact that you can't install non-Apple approved apps isn't a problem. It's a design decision.”

    …okay, I'm going to push back on that a bit, Jack. A design decision can be a BAD design decision. And a bad design decision is arguably a problem.

    Whether this particular case is an instance of a bad design decision is a subjective call, obviously. I understand Apple's stance here and why they took it (and it's worth noting that I have an iPhone, have jailbroken it twice and both times restored it to normal non-brokenness shortly thereafter), but as Steven Frank put it earlier today, the dark side of centralized app distribution models is that they're easy to game and impossible to moderate without hypocrisy. In the long run I don't think this stance is actually in Apple's best interest — whether or not enough people stop buying iP* products to dent their bottom line, they'll cut back on 90% of their app store-related headaches if they come up with some mechanism like “click here to allow installation of apps off of non-Apple repositories, knowing that if you do so and your iPhone explodes, the guys at the Genius Bar are authorized to point and laugh at you.”

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    I love how all the OMG APPLE CHANGED THINGS WITHOUT WARNING crowd are the *same* people who DEMANDED Apple pull Babyshaker, and cheered Apple on when they did.

    Apple “changed the rules” without warning for the maker and users of Babyshaker, but that was okay. But now that it's someone ELSES ox getting gored…oh no, can't have that. You leave MY ox alone!

    Hypocrisy…such a lonely word

  • demodave

    I think the real problem is that Apple's decision oversteps the bound of the “agency” model. Lots of app developers are happy to keep 70% of the sales revenue and will surely continue to market through the centralized App Store.

    Apple's model, however, makes them the only ones who can approve the material for “NON-jailbroken” installation. That's not agency, that's control. It will surely be worked around in some way, but if Apple just allowed other sales channels, they could have their clean, white App Store, and lots of people would still use it (for lots of good reasons, like maybe quality guarantees). People who need/want “other” stuff could get it elsewhere – and indeed at their won risk as indicated above.

    It's all about control. I understand the decision, but disagree with it all the same.

  • chipotlecoyote

    Yes, pretty much this. I figure that even if Apple “opens” the process most
    people will still want to get their apps in the official, pride-of-place app
    store, and it eliminates about 90% of the kvetching over the app store
    policies even if they don't appreciably change — simply because then
    developers could go somewhere else.

    The thing is, even if Apple genuinely sees it as an issue of quality control
    (and I suspect they really do, although I don't think that's all of the
    reason for the lockdown), in the long run it's likely in their best interest
    to let non-App Store application installations happen.

  • http://crankygeek.com Jack Brewster

    I'm not arguing whether it's good or bad design.

    The point I was trying to make is that, iP* and related app sales are currently 'good enough' for Apple. A bunch of complaining bloggers and jailbreakers is the edge case and not representative of their target customers.

    Until the market changes (or shareholders complain) and Apple is penalized for having a closed store, there is no motivation for them to change their policies.

  • http://crankygeek.com Jack Brewster

    The reference is in the story: “we all know where sexually suggestive material is allowed to thrive on the Internet, it takes off like kudzu.”

  • demodave

    Kudzu is a very aggressive weed.

  • kevindent

    Well Kara, keep in mind they also banned a bunch of games where the characters were seen as too sexy -yes I am talking about a pixel chick that was fully dressed- They have begun reinstating those.

    But if you take Daisy Mae Alien Buffet as an example, she was fully clothed -hot pants and a flannel shirt, oh and a gun-

    That game was submitted about two weeks ago, Monday of last week they told IUGO -the publisher- they were going to be featured. The next day they get two calls from APPL exec's saying “fantastic job guys”, sales go through the roof, last friday the guys get a mail essentially saying “your game is t3h pr0n” and that it was pulled from the app-store.

    Now in fairness the put it back up as of 2PM yesterday, but the guys are going to find it hard for sales to recover -they were top ten before being pulled.

    So Apple are also targeting games, now that is fine, but I think it is fair to say that GTA is a pretty offensive game. Which means they are applying the same rules across the board.

    @digigala

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    I expect they need to get to consistency on some level, but I doubt they ever will.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Indeed. When you dance with elephants, prepare to be stomped.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Especially the netbooks!

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Excellent point. But Babyshaker needed to be deep-sixed.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Oh well, then don't make porny stuff. Apple has no obligation to sell it and can change its mind at any point.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    No, just a pix of kudzu. I like how it looks. I picked it.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Yes, they need to try to be less opaque. But, at the end of the day, it is the APPLE App Store.

    Please bloggers are making hay of this silly story.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    well, you will need to get another device. Maybe Google will serve the sweaty-handed demo!

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Exactly.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Apple not capricious and insular and secretive in its decision-making? Have you been paying attention for 20 years?

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Apple is not violating the first amendment, or practicing censorship. Only governments, or perhaps monopolies, can really censor.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Sorry I am not an EXPERT in porn like you. My larger point: Apple can decide to sell anything it wants, though it must live with the consequences.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Indeed. A faux controversy.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Yep. Unless you own a porn store and then porn is good!

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Indeed!

  • Anonymous

    It just seems like Apple is being asked to be our kids’ parent. http://bit.ly/dvCHNC Maybe it’s time for their actually parents to step up and take control?

  • Anonymous

    I thought Kara’s post was great. However, I’m here to comment on a different subject: Somebody has evidently signed up to post here using the name DPNYT, and filled in *my* email address.

    Not exactly sure if it matters, but–the point is, it’s not me. :)

    –Pogue

  • Anonymous

    Today is porny stuff, tomorrow it will be apps that displays stock option of companies other than Apple and next week your iphone will explode (requiring you to buy a new one) if you dare to send a message containing the word Google.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Good point!

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Oh please. Just use another phone.

  • rebecca7855

    While I´m not into porn or even erotic apps I did get myself a Nexus One about a month ago, couldn´t be happier since. I think that having 45 years of life experience entitle me to decide for myself what software I install on my own device. We are not living in the dark ages where one entity decides what is good for me to see/buy/do and what not.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    And Apple can decide what is good for them.

  • rebecca7855

    You should write for allthingsd.com, you hit the nail on the head; it's not about the removal of the porn that makes these bloggers mad, it´s the removal itself.

  • Anonymous

    nice post

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