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Who, Us? Netflix Says Its Customers Aren't Cord Cutters

Here is the standard cord-cutting formula: Tell your cable company to pound sand and replace it with an antenna, an Internet connection and a Netflix subscription.

Except, says Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, that’s not what his 19.6 million customers are doing.

Responding to a question during yesterday’s earnings call, Hastings told analysts he doesn’t see any evidence that his customers are choosing Netflix instead of cable. They’re using it to augment their cable subscription, he said: “We still see no evidence that our subscribers cut cords at a greater rate than the population.”

That contradicts both popular wisdom, as well as at least one recent survey, which found Netflix subscribers using the service as a cable substitute. Then again, a competing study from BTIG’s Rich Greenfield (registration required) found that hypothetical cord cutters are only slightly more likely–by a margin of 51 percent to 49 percent–to have Netflix.

And the existence of cable-cutting itself is still very much up for debate in the TV business. Cable companies like Comcast insist that they don’t see evidence of it. But Ivan Seidenberg, who runs cable competitor Verizon, says it’s inevitable.

Netflix, meanwhile, has been consistent in arguing that it’s not helping anyone do any snipping. Here’s Hastings answering a similar question during an earnings call three months ago (PDF):

Q: Do you see any evidence that Netflix subscribers are inclined to either cancel multi-channel video subscriptions, or to pare back use of premium services such as Starz, Encore, HBO?

A: No, we haven’t seen any evidence of that and there’s no evidence in the total numbers of those firms in last quarter’s financials and total subscribers, so total multi-channel video subscribers is continuing to grow in the US. Premium subscribers is not showing any decline, so I don’t think there’s any material cord cutting. I think what’s happening is the multi-channel video, such a broad package with an incredible array of products, that we’re a tiny little fraction of that, and our subscribers view us as a supplemental service, and because it’s a modest cost at $9 a month, it works for them and their budget.

The numbers bear Hastings out: In the past year, his service has added 5.8 million subscribers. If, say, 20 percent of those new customers were cord cutters, you would have seen cable rolls drop by more than one million people. But so far we’ve only seen a 200,000-person drop, in the second quarter of 2010. And some analysts think that number will turn positive for the rest of the year.

But that doesn’t mean Hastings doesn’t plan to cut directly into the cable business in the future, when Netflix has a truly comprehensive streaming video catalog. Which means it’s worth asking Hastings about cord-cutting every quarter.

One of these days you might get a different answer.


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  • Anonymous

    I suppose they have their facts right. Yet, I am one of those “cord cutters” perfectly described above. I’ve got an HTPC I built for myself, an internet connection to it, an antenna and subscribed to Netflix a couple of months ago. We’ve got more than we can watch for less than half of what we were paying and the service is infinitely better.

  • http://www.mediahound.biz @Edw3rd

    I’m in the midst of cutting the Comcast cord myself… internet enabled TV, Netflix account, and HD antenna that gets clearer HD picture of ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX then the cable version. What’s holding us back are kids and live sports programming.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobsentell Bob Sentell

    I just cut the cord. I will no longer pay for channels I don’t watch. Until the cable and satellite companies begin to offer an a la carte service option, I’m not going back.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t say much for the sports channels since no one here is interested, but if it’s the kids you’re worried about, Netflix seems to have plenty of that kind of fare and our local PBS station has 3 channels on the same carrier signal (love the new digital TV signals!) and one of those channels is devoted to kids. As to the sports, I’m pretty sure there are ways of finding a lot of different sports shows on the innertubes, but since I haven’t ever pursued that, I wouldn’t be much help.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EZZTD5XB2JBQBL4RPBIH2QYYFU JSW

    When I picked up Netflix, I dropped my subscription to the premium channels. Their content was mostly boring and the prices were going up. Of course, months later Comcast raised their base rate and the bill is almost the same as when I had the premium channels. Cord cutting does cross my mind from time to time.

  • http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/ PKafka

    You can watch “sports” on the Web, but if you want to watch live sports, it’s a different story. Some a la carte but not a lot, and none for football. And unlike TV shows and movies, piracy is a low-quality option for live sports.

  • http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/ PKafka

    I think a lot of people are where you are, at least theoretically – would like to cut the cord but there is some kind of programming they don’t want to give up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.a.sniadoski Daniel A Sniadoski

    Our household has been cableTV-free for over 7 years. Why pay for 200 channels of garbage just to get the five you want? Our entertainment has been, depending on the neighborhood we lived in, Hollywood Video, Blockbuster or Netflix. Because of video store closures (the Hollywood Video near us closed this last summer), it’s been almost exclusively Netflix (both DVDs and streaming) and rented movies off of the AppleTV.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobsentell Bob Sentell

    Most of your NCAA options are available on ESPN3.com if your ISP participates. As for the NFL, they offer an online radio service for a price. Both options are cheaper than paying for DirecTV or Comcast month after month.

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