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Who Might Be Twitter's New Investors? The Usual Suspects, Of Course!

Kara Swisher — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:12:34 +0000

Last week, MediaMemo’s Peter Kafka reported on a new funding effort by Twitter.

Sources said the San Francisco microblogging phenom, which has seen huge growth of late, is considering a round of upward of $200 million.

That would more than double the $160 million Twitter has garnered so far.

And who are the moneybags who might be the ones to keep Twitter CEO Dick Costolo in diamonds and furs–and away, for now, from the enticing clutches of a socially awkward and, thus, acquisition-minded Google?

Actually, those at the top of the list will be familiar to those following big funding rounds in the social space: Russia’s DST Global, Silicon Valley venture powerhouse Andreessen Horowitz–which is raising its own giant new fund–and a spate of more recently interested private equity players.

DST seems the likeliest investor, given it likes to play big in the space and has handed over gobs of money to social networking giant Facebook, social gaming upstart Zynga and social deals start-up Groupon.

DST Global is also pretty hands-off as an investor, such as not demanding board seats for its dough.

Alexander Tamas of DST Global, which is an affiliated international investment unit of Digital Sky Technologies (which recently filed to go public itself), said in an email to BoomTown that he “can’t comment on any deal rumors.”

But here’s an excerpt from an interview he did with me in July:

“As to its future investments, Tamas said the company will likely fund start-ups that ‘check the boxes,’ including exponential growth and social virality.”

That would be…drum roll, please…Twitter.

A Twitter spokesman told Kafka last week that the company did not need the cashola (there is apparently plenty of the old stuff left in the kitty) and no decisions had been made about additional financings.

Nonetheless, many sources close to the situation said Twitter was deep into the consideration of potential investors.

Of course it is, as it needs to expands its staff and infrastructure and more aggressively seek ways to monetize its growing audience via advertising.

In Twitter’s last funding of $100 million, it did so at a billion-dollar valuation.

It’s not clear what a new valuation would be, but if completed it would obviously be a lot more.

And, if Twitter takes this path, it could stave off the persistent speculation that Google would make an offer Twitter could not refuse, in an attempt by the search giant to jumpstart its own lackluster social efforts and assuage its deep insecurities about Facebook.

In addition, more money would also give Twitter breathing room to figure out its business model, before pressure starts to perhaps also reward investors and employees via a public offering.

DST's Alexander Tamas Talks About New Investors, New Investments and Dealing With Troubling Russian Stereotypes

Kara Swisher — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:15:07 +0000

After Russia-based Internet investor Digital Sky Technologies got $388 million in a stock-swapping deal with South Africa media giant Naspers–coming after an earlier $300 million investment from China’s Internet behemoth Tencent–BoomTown dialed up DST partner Alexander Tamas in London to interview him about the implications.

This developing international spiderweb of digital and media companies begged the question of what DST might do with all this new dough, especially since it has created quite a splash over the last year investing massive gobs of money in high-profile, social-focused U.S. Internet companies.

That has included, most prominently, social networking powerhouse Facebook, as well as Groupon and Zynga.

Actually, said Tamas, the money is for expansion of DST’s core businesses in Russia, Poland and the Baltics–in email, social networking, gaming and entertainment–at units such as Mail.ru, which was co-owned by Naspers and DST.

In essence, said many analysts, it will simplify its ownership structure, and could eventually lead to an IPO for DST.

For a 30 percent stake in DST and the $388 million, Naspers forked over its 39.3 percent stake in Mail.ru into DST.

“The idea was for us to be able to completely control our Russian portfolio,” said Tamas, part of a series of moves which included its recent purchase of AOL (AOL) instant messaging unit ICQ for $187.5 million in cash. “We wanted 100 percent at one company.”

Also a goal: To better link its services with those in China, owned by Tencent, which invested $300 million in DST in April, giving it just over a 10 percent stake.

Naspers, by the way, owns 35 percent of Tencent.

“It’s a pretty good dialog all around,” said Tamas (pictured here), linking companies with both global and local aspirations.

But it’s the global ambitions that have attracted the most attention to DST of late, which, Tamas noted, created some confusion and unfair maligning of the company.

Interestingly, although it is all mashed up on its Web site, DST itself is not technically the entity that maintains its investments in companies such as Facebook.

That would be DST Global, its international arm which directly hold the stakes. It is not part of the Naspers or Tencent deals.

Of course, both are run by the same people, especially DST CEO Yuri Milner, and DST has a stake in DST Global.

“Initially, DST did fund those transactions,” said Tamas. “But we wanted to separate these investments from the Internet company to give investors the clearer differentiation.”

As to its future investments, Tamas said the company will likely fund start-ups that “check the boxes,” including exponential growth and social virality.

That means only two investments annually, as opposed to 10.

He also said DST would continue to fork over large sums–its invested well over $100 million in each of its U.S. deals.

“There is a perception that we pay high prices,” admitted Tamas, who noted its Facebook investment is now valued at much more. “But we have a global outlook on what we are investing in.”

DST is also a believer in getting some of that financing in the hands of founders and early investors, since it relieves financial pressure to sell or go public before a start-up’s time.

“We want to give the companies we invest in a year or two run,” said Tamas. “That is the sweet spot.”

He said, after its U.S. flirtation, that DST is now looking more in Asia and Europe.

But, even with its expansion and getting investments from well-known media giant such as Naspers, Tamas said he is not sure DST can shake the continued questions about the sources of its funding, especially given some of its initial investors are clearly part of the much-maligned Russian business oligarchy.

“We always have to explain and justify all of Russia,” said Tamas defensively. “Obviously, Naspers did its due diligence, as have others, and they feel comfortable with DST.”

Still, Russian issues will remain a concern for the long term. As noted in a recent report by Bank of America (BAC) investment unit Merrill Lynch, for example, on the Naspers-DST deal:

“We are also concerned that DST’s dominance in the Russian internet space (close to 70% market/mind share) may attract the scrutiny of the Russian government. The precedent with the other leading Russian internet company Yandex, when the government got a veto on sale or a golden share, signals that the government may not welcome a full takeover of DST by Naspers or Tencent.”

“We know the issues,” said Tamas. “But the best digital companies going forward are going to have to understand and operate in different parts of the world that are not just in Silicon Valley.”

Facebookers Start Cashing Out Up to 20 Percent of Shares With New $100 Million Investment

Kara Swisher — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:55:17 +0000

[UPDATED: With news that employees can sell up to 20 percent of their shares.]

According to sources close to the situation, current and former employees of Facebook are now going to be able to sell up to 20 percent of their common shares.

It is part of a $100 million add-on investment in the social networking company by the Russian investors who recently put $200 million into the company for preferred shares.

That investment a month ago by Digital Sky Technologies was valued at $10 billion, since those shares have various special rights, depending on what was negotiated.

The new tender offer by DST values the company at $6.5 billion for the common shares, or $14.77 a share. The last common share valuation of the company was around $4 billion.

The move has been expected for Facebook employees since DST made its first investment.

It will allow them to monetize shares, since the company is not likely to go public for at least a year or more.

Employees have 20 days to decide to take the offer or not and can only sell up to 20 percent of their stock–in other words, they cannot cash out completely.

“I can afford a down payment on a house now,” said one longtime employee, who is typical of many. “But not a really big house.”

But the top leadership of Facebook, such as CEO Mark Zuckerberg or COO Sheryl Sandberg, are not eligible to sell shares.

Facebook confirmed the DST investment, with a statement from Zuckerberg:

“While individuals must make their own decisions about participating in this program, I’m pleased that the price DST is offering is much greater than the price originally considered last fall. This is recognition of Facebook’s growth and progress towards making the world more open and connected.”

If fully accepted by those employees eligible, it will give DST 1.54 percent more of Facebook, for a total of 3.5 percent of the company.

That makes DST–based in London and Moscow–one of the bigger Facebook investors, with a stake larger than one owned by Microsoft (MSFT).

The software giant invested $250 million in Facebook for preferred shares in 2007, but the valuation was then $15 billion. That huge figure was due to a competing bid from archrival Google (GOOG) at the time.

In any case, neither DST nor Microsoft got a board seat or “special observer rights” in return for its money.

Here’s a video interview I did with one of DST’s top execs, Alexander Tamas, along with Sandberg, right after it made its first investment in May, while both were attending the seventh D: All Things Digital conference:

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The First Video Interview With Facebook's New Russian Investor, Plus COO Sheryl Sandberg

Kara Swisher — Tue, 26 May 2009 19:33:47 +0000

Because a lot of tech’s big shots are converging on our seventh D: All Things Digital conference, BoomTown managed to grab Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and Alexander Tamas, one of the key execs of the social-networking site’s newest megainvestor, Digital Sky Technologies.

Here’s my video interview with them about the $200 million that the Moscow- and London-based DST announced today that it had invested in Facebook, at a $10 billion valuation.

The pair are queried about the investment, the valuation, the advertising prospects for the Silicon Valley-based Facebook, competitors and when the IPO might come.

Sandberg also offers to buy the All Things Digital empire with Facebook’s piles of new cash. We said: Nyet! (with a shoe pounding on table for emphasis).

Here’s the video:

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Facebook's Zuckerberg: $10 Billion Is a "Fair" Valuation

Peter Kafka — Tue, 26 May 2009 17:48:56 +0000

Looking for lots of specifics about the $200 million at $10 billion valuation deal that Facebook and Digital Sky Technologies just announced? Then you have come to the wrong conference call, my friend. But for what it’s worth, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg did sound fairly upbeat and confident during his chat with reporters Tuesday morning–the way you’d expect someone who just cashed a check for a couple hundred million to sound.

The big picture: Even though Facebook’s official valuation has slid from $15 billion–November 2007, when Microsoft (MSFT) invested–to $10 billion, Zuckerberg is OK with that, arguing that 1) that deal was done at the peak of the market and 2) the pact was never really a financial deal, but a way for Microsoft to partner up with Facebook–and, though he didn’t say it, to box out Google (GOOG). That sounds pretty reasonable.

Zuckerberg’s main talking points were that his company didn’t need the money, but it sure was nice to have, both to fund growth and make any M&A easier to pull off. And when it came to his new partners, he argued that DST’s existing portfolio, which includes several other social networks, would provide models/examples for his company as it continued to expand outside the U.S.

Earlier:

Facebook and its newest investors Digital Sky Technologies, are holding a teleconference to discuss the $200 million at 10 billion valuation deal the two parties just announced. I’ll be covering the call live.

Call starting “momentarily.”

On the call: Facebook Mark Zuckerberg, DST CEO Yuri Milner. Also, via phone (from D7!): Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and DST’s Alexander Tamas.

Zuckerberg reading statement that more or less tracks press release: “Advertising product” improving, “our business is doing really well” and we’re on track to create a “nice” business, and that’s why investors want in. DST approached us, has interesting profile and experience and insight into social networks. “We found their thinking and their leadership to be really impressive.”

Money provides “cash buffer” to support our continued growth, also possible other moves. No specific plans to talk about “but nice to have flexibility.”

Milner: “I realize not all the participants on the call are familiar with us.” Goes over DST portfolio. “We have now started to actively expand abroad.” We’re a holding company, have raised and invested more than $1 billion since 2005. Rattling off portfolio companies now.

Q&A:

What does this mean for possible IPO? Zuckerberg: “Our approach to financing has really been that we want to take money and work with partners”…”for a lot of start-ups, you get the feeling that the IPO is really the end goal…that’s not the case for us…we’re not rushing toward it…that’s really all I have to say about that today.”

What’s valuation for common stock? Zuckerberg: No comment. “There are different transactions that we’ve structured differently…we hope that there will be different things in the future…probably sometime in the next few months.”

What does this say about Microsoft’s $15 billion valuation? Zuckerberg: We did that deal at the peak of the market. That was part of a broader relationship. That investment was just one piece of it. This is also a relationship that we’re forming with DST…we hope we will work with other things over time.

“We feel really good about the progress we made…we feel this is a good and fair valuation for us.” The Microsoft deal was at peak of market and was a strategic deal. “The world was in a pretty different place at that time.”

The international audience is 70 percent of our users. How do you monetize that? Zuckerberg: I have a few things to say, but want Yuri to talk, too. Milner: We have invested in five social networks in Europe. They have been able to monetize better than Facebook because they’re further along the curve than Facebook, which is a global company. But we think that Facebook will improve. Money will come from micropayments and advertising.

Zuckerberg: We can do advertising and have been experimenting with payments. Social networks in DST’s portfolio all monetize in different ways. Each is doing well, with a different model. We’re still growing. Online and direct advertising are growing the quickest, but over time, we expect to be able to build out a large number of these things.

What is your ad revenue going to be? Zuckerberg: A couple of months ago, we felt that everyone outside the company was underestimating our performance. We’ve been EBITDA-profitable for five straight quarters coming on six. Revenue growth has been 70 percent. Cash-flow positive sometime in 2010. That’s important because it means this investment is pure buffer. I realize those aren’t absolute numbers, but those are the ones we’re talking about.

Will DST be involved in management? Milner: We have our own businesses to run. We’ll keep in touch.

Questions about micropayments. Zuckerberg: We’ve tested a lot of things. It’s not a big part of our business, could be greater one day. They create a lot of value for users, and there are ways to monetize them. I’m looking forward to learning how these models are working.

Please talk about common stock/employee stock purchase plans. Zuckerberg: Going back to first question re. IPO. We want to make sure that we can continually make it so employees can be focused on the long term. We felt that if we let people have a little bit of liquidity, it can take some of the pressure off and let people focus on making company as good as it could be. We started to do this last year and had to hold off. Now we hope to be able to do it again.

Will that be the only way you are allowing employees or ex-employees to sell shares? Zuckerberg: Still talking about.

Is current Facebook ad business to be the main business going forward? Doesn’t mean it will be main business in the long term. You guys know everything that we’re talking about now.

Why aren’t you running big brand ad campaigns? We’re very interested in it. We have a big ad sales team. Building out offices internationally: U.K., France, a few more coming up. We think the best way to serve advertisers is to create ads that people interact with, that are “social and engaging.” I don’t want anyone to think that this isn’t a big part of our business, because it is.

Sandberg: Heavily engaged with brands. Ads specifically designed for Facebook, so they look different and behave differently than other ads on other sites, and that’s a good thing.

Preferred shares–are these are substantially similar to the ones Microsoft bought? Zuckberg: “I’m gonna duck that one.”

Does the company have any debt? Zuckerberg: [pause] There’s been some information that’s been public about debt we have for operating equipment. Beyond that, we do equity deals.

Will you do other investment deals? How many did you look at? Zuckerberg: He doesn’t really answer this question; instead he goes on to praise DST. Milner: We see things that other people don’t see, which is monetization that other social networks have been able to do. So we “kind of feel comfortable with that valuation.”

Is this largest foreign investment in Facebook? Zuckerberg: Um… [pause]. There’s been some public information about other folks we’ve worked with, but I think from reading some of the records you can get the answer to your question.

Other new deals? Zuckerberg: It was really at our option to find someone we were comfortable with. We didn’t feel like we needed to take an investment, and now we feel like we have the buffer we want.

Working on video chat product? More international products? Zuckerberg Yes. There are lots of things like that that we’re working on now. We want the site to be available in every country. We’re not translating the site. Users translate the site themselves. And a lot of the features are universally applicable.

Call finished.

Da! Facebook Takes $200 Million From Russian Investors at $10 Billion Valuation

Peter Kafka — Tue, 26 May 2009 16:17:32 +0000

Facebook is indeed taking money from Russian investor Digital Sky Technologies. As previously reported, the social network is selling $200 million of preferred stock at a $10 billion valuation; DST will also buy up to $100 million of common stock at a lower valuation later this year.

DST will not get a board seat or “special observer rights” in return for its money. The two companies are holding a press conference shortly, so we may be able to extract a few more details.

The $10 billion valuation is comedown from the $15 billion figure that accompanied Microsoft’s (MSFT) 2007 investment, but no one expected that figure to hold up–in large part that deal was driven by a bidding war with Google (GOOG) and not much else.

Facebook and its newest investors are conducting a conference call to discuss the deal; I’ll be covering the call live.

FACEBOOK RECEIVES INVESTMENT FROM DIGITAL SKY TECHNOLOGIES

Passive Investment Includes Stake in Preferred Stock, Common Stock and Support for Facebook’s Continued Global Growth

PALO ALTO, Calif. — May 26, 2009 — Facebook today announced that Digital Sky Technologies (DST), one of the leading internet investment groups globally with significant stakes in Eastern European and Russian internet businesses, has made a $200 million investment in Facebook in exchange for preferred stock, representing a 1.96 percent equity stake at a $10 billion valuation.

In addition, DST has indicated that it is planning to offer to purchase at least $100 million of Facebook common stock from existing common stockholders that would facilitate liquidity for current and former employees’ vested shares in the company. The details of the plan are expected to be announced to eligible participants during the summer. Consistent with Facebook’s practice with other recent investors, DST will not be represented on the Facebook board or hold special observer rights.

“This investment demonstrates Facebook’s ongoing success at creating a global network for people to share and connect,” said Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. “We’ve worked hard to bring more than 200 million people — 70 percent outside of the U.S. — onto Facebook to share with friends, family and co-workers. A number of firms approached us, but DST stood out because of the global perspective they bring — backed up by the impressive growth and financial achievements of their internet investments. We’re looking forward to working with the DST team.”

“Our investment experience in other regions reveals the tremendous value social networking companies create as they redefine how people communicate and interact,” said Yuri Milner, chief executive of DST. “By every important metric — user growth and engagement, technological innovation and financial performance — Facebook is on a similar trajectory, though on a much more global scale. We’re delighted to invest in Facebook, Mark and his management team as they make the world more open and connected.”

Based in London and Moscow, DST is a well-respected investor in a number of successful internet companies, holding significant interests in Russia and Eastern Europe, such as Mail.ru, Forticom and vKontakte. DST’s main assets account for over 70 percent of all page views in the Russian-speaking internet and its social networks are the market leaders in more than 13 countries, addressing a combined population of more than 350 million.

DST is run by its three partners who have complementary backgrounds in operations, investments and finance: Yuri Milner, previously CEO of Mail.ru, the #1 Russian language website; Gregory Finger, previously head of the Moscow office of NCH, a multi-billion dollar hedge fund; and Alexander Tamas, previously co-head of internet and software coverage in EMEA for the Investment Banking Division of Goldman Sachs. With its advanced understanding of opportunities in technology and social media, DST is a good fit for Facebook and an insightful partner that can help unlock additional growth opportunities.