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		<title>Yahoo Starts Making Wish List, as Asian Deal Huffs to Finish Line and Board Changes Readied</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here's a big, honking update on the Silicon Valley Internet giant's various machinations for you!]]></description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s be clear on the much-awaited Asian deal that Yahoo and its Asian partners have been working on: While it is certainly still moving forward, once signed, it will not actually officially close until next year.</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right &#8212; <em>2013</em>!</p>
<p>Still, what everyone and his investor is waiting for is the splashy announcement of the agreement, which involves the Silicon Valley Internet giant, China&#8217;s Alibaba Group and SoftBank, a large shareholder in Yahoo Japan.</p>
<p>Yahoo leadership has been hoping that could happen before Feb. 24, an <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/come-west-daniel-loeb-a-silicon-valley-visit-as-as-yahoos-activist-shareholder-mulls-proxy-fight/">important date after which activist shareholder Daniel Loeb</a> could begin to mount a proxy fight against the current board.</p>
<p>And while the definitive agreement &#8212; involving the sale of Yahoo&#8217;s 33 percent stake in Alibaba and 35 percent stake in Yahoo Japan &#8212; has been moving back and forth among the dealmakers, one source said its completion might take a little longer than that, perhaps even into mid-March.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is one of the most complicated cross-border transactions in a long time,&#8221; said one person close to the situation. &#8220;It&#8217;s three different languages, three time zones and three companies that have not always seen eye to eye.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that the companies don&#8217;t have the top talent on the effort. For Yahoo, it is CFO Tim Morse (who most recently also warmed the CEO seat, until Scott Thompson&#8217;s recent appointment); for Alibaba, it&#8217;s CEO Jack Ma and CFO Joe Tsai; and, for SoftBank, it is top man Masa Son and his top man Ron Fisher.</p>
<p>To make things even more complex, at the same time as the negotiating is going on, the trio also has to pay mind to how the Internal Revenue Service in the U.S. is going to view the whole deal. </p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120206/yahoo-starts-making-wish-list-as-asian-deal-huffs-to-finish-line-and-board-changes-readied/mk-br479a_cashr_d_20120105182116-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-171215"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/02/MK-BR479A_CASHR_D_20120105182116.png" alt="" title="MK-BR479A_CASHR_D_20120105182116" width="262" height="396" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-171215" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see here from a <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204331304577143121744990212.html">Wall Street Journal chart</a>, it&#8217;s a pretty complicated &#8220;cash-rich split-off&#8221; to avoid taxes.</p>
<p>While the IRS cannot take an application for a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_letter_ruling">&#8220;private letter ruling&#8221;</a> until it has an actual agreement in hand, and will not issue one on a hypothetical transaction, the agreement still must be crafted so it is most likely to pass muster.</p>
<p>And only then can anyone move on to the many billions of dollars that Yahoo will instruct Alibaba and SoftBank to pay or contribute in kind for the asset part of the arrangement.</p>
<p>As the Journal noted, in more clarity than I ever could: &#8220;A key part of satisfying tax-code requirements is that the company shedding its shares get assets, not just cash, in exchange for them. Cash can&#8217;t account for more than two-thirds of the transferred value, tax rules say. This restriction was adopted in 2005 to limit misuse of the provision.&#8221;</p>
<p>While Yahoo&#8217;s execs have met about the various possibilities, it is more considering now than anything else.</p>
<p>And although a lot of names have been bandied about &#8212; Weather Channel, WebMD, as well as Glam Media and even Digg &#8212; the more likely direction Yahoo will go in will be different, according to many sources.</p>
<p>First, said sources, the key criteria for the purchase will be to diversify revenue streams, a theme Thompson sounded in his <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120124/so-new-yahoo-ceo-scott-thompson-how-bad-is-it/">first earnings report</a> recently. That could mean more online commerce, perhaps, rather than advertising or media assets.</p>
<p>Second, said sources, international properties might be more valuable to Yahoo than owning more U.S.-based ones, which opens up a range of interesting possibilities.</p>
<p>This could even include some already held by Alibaba, for example, such as garnering a big stake in its publicly-traded Alibaba.com. Technically, via Alibaba, Yahoo already owns some of the e-commerce giant, but not directly. Another possibility is to get back the Yahoo China business, also now owned by Alibaba. </p>
<p>Third, U.S. companies that Yahoo might look at could be unusual and even bold. Two names brought up in recent internal meetings, for example, were Netflix (before its stock revived) and Yelp (which is prepping for an IPO, and which Yahoo once tried to buy already).</p>
<p>And if things were not already needlessly complex in fixing its Asia problem, expect a change in the Yahoo board composition, too, as early as this week. </p>
<p>As I previously reported, at least <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120117/sources-four-more-board-members-will-be-following-yang-out-the-door/">four directors are expected to move on</a>. More to the point, there will also be replacements announced at the same time.</p>
<p>To stave off Loeb and even give him a perceptible win, sources said the company is considering announcing the changes sooner than later, with the hope that fresh new members will placate other shareholders.</p>
<p>Lastly, with Thompson starting to take the reins after a month there, I would also expect he&#8217;ll weigh in on some significant restructuring (his word, not mine!) at Yahoo soon enough, too.</p>
<p>Complicated? Sure is! Perplexing even? And how! But until Asian and board resolutions, the real work of fixing Yahoo can&#8217;t really begin.</p>
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		<title>Yahapocalypse Now? Q4 Results, Proxy Fight, Board Hijinks and Asia Solution Combine for Busy Month for Yahoo.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A perfect storm for the Silicon Valley Internet giant or just another day at "The Office"?]]></description>
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<p>If you thought things were going to quiet down with Yahoo now that it has installed new CEO Scott Thompson in place, think again!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because of a very unusual &#8212; well, to be fair, unusual for most companies, but not for perpetually storm-tossed Yahoo &#8212; confluence of important events about to take place all at once over the next six weeks.</p>
<p>And, like a very dicey game of corporate Jenga, each has the ability to upend and impact the other significantly, either for the good or, <em>well</em>, for the bad.</p>
<p>Here are the four horsemen of the possible Yahapocalypse, all riding into town very soon:</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/yahapocalypse-now-q4-results-proxy-fight-board-hijinks-and-asia-solution-combine-for-busy-month-for-yahoo/images-16/" rel="attachment wp-att-161880"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/images.png" alt="" title="images" width="313" height="161" class="alignright size-full wp-image-161880" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Q4 Results:</strong> Yahoo will report its fourth quarter earnings on January 24th, after the markets close. While sources said the company has managed to turn around what was looking like a first-class disaster, it&#8217;s still not going to be a pretty picture when it comes to advertising growth, consumer engagement and other key metrics.</p>
<p>Simply put, Yahoo needs to show investors a fast-growing business. Instead, sources said the Q4 results will likely come in at the bottom of the expected range, which should be unimpressive, even though this has been <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111018/liveblogging-yahoos-q3-earnings/">business as usual at Yahoo</a> for some time.</p>
<p>If Google and others have strong reports, of course, it will make the situation worse. </p>
<p>Along with goosing its ad business again, Yahoo needs to spur innovation and intro some cool new products in new arenas to make Silicon Valley and others perk up. </p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/come-west-daniel-loeb-a-silicon-valley-visit-as-as-yahoos-activist-shareholder-mulls-proxy-fight/dan-loeb-hedge-fund-third-point/" rel="attachment wp-att-161696"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/Dan-Loeb-Hedge-Fund-Third-Point.gif" alt="" title="Dan-Loeb-Hedge-Fund-Third-Point" width="142" height="198" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-161696" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Proxy Fight?:</strong> Weak results will give a nice lift to potential efforts by activist investor Daniel Loeb of Third Point &#8212; a major Yahoo shareholder &#8212; to wage a proxy fight for control of the company. He&#8217;s already here in Silicon Valley this week searching for possible board members for an alternate slate of directors.</p>
<p>As I <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/come-west-daniel-loeb-a-silicon-valley-visit-as-as-yahoos-activist-shareholder-mulls-proxy-fight/">wrote earlier today</a>, the earliest nominations for directors can be submitted is February 24. Loeb then has a month after that to submit a competing roster.</p>
<p>Worse for Yahoo, many of Yahoo&#8217;s major investors are mulling backing Loeb if he initiates a battle for control of the company.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that Loeb is and means to be a thorn in Yahoo&#8217;s side &#8212; he already made a lot of noise about its consideration of partial investments from private equity firms, due to low share prices &#8212; until major changes take place at the company.</p>
<p>And by major, Loeb&#8217;s intent seems to be along these baseball lines: Throw the bums out!</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/yahapocalypse-now-q4-results-proxy-fight-board-hijinks-and-asia-solution-combine-for-busy-month-for-yahoo/american_horror_story/" rel="attachment wp-att-161886"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/american_horror_story-190x285.png" alt="" title="american_horror_story" width="190" height="285" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-161886" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Board in Flux:</strong> Speaking of the board, it&#8217;s not the pretty picture of solidarity as you might think.</p>
<p>Actually, no one in their right mind thinks that. This board is about as dysfunctional as they come. (It&#8217;s like that group on &#8220;American Horror Story,&#8221; minus the bald dwarf in the basement.)</p>
<p>Right now, several sources report, various factions are jockeying over which board members go and which stay. The Wall Street Journal reported last week on a formal search for new board members to replace outgoing ones, but it&#8217;s much more complex than just that. </p>
<p>While some departures seem most obvious &#8212; longtime board members Vyomesh Joshi, Arthur Kern and Gary Wilson &#8212; the really interesting part will be the possible exit of Chairman Roy Bostock.</p>
<p>While it now is more of a when rather than an if, many sources report, how it goes down is the key part of the move. And who will be the chairman then will be the big conundrum &#8212; either an internal candidate, such as <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111108/with-no-yahoo-ceo-pledge-david-kenny-back-in-the-strategic-fray/">David Kenny</a>, or a fresh-eyed outsider.</p>
<p>Another question mark: Whether co-founder Jerry Yang could also move along off the board with Bostock. While Internet company founders usually stick on boards, it&#8217;s not a given, especially with all the turmoil at Yahoo, some of which is related to Yang. </p>
<p>For now, make no mistake, Bostock is still in charge of the board and Yang is the only real power behind that power, despite the recent influence of director Brad Smith. </p>
<p>But, with all the pressure by shareholders, some sources suggest that it might finally be time for some significant change at the board level, starting with the pair most associated with all its troubles.</p>
<p>Or, <em>um</em>, not.</p>
<p>If there is going to be any action at all, expect it before February 24th &#8212; when Loeb can start making real trouble.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/yahapocalypse-now-q4-results-proxy-fight-board-hijinks-and-asia-solution-combine-for-busy-month-for-yahoo/solution_commercial-buildings/" rel="attachment wp-att-161891"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/solution_commercial-buildings-285x285.png" alt="" title="solution_commercial-buildings" width="285" height="285" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-161891" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Asian Solution:</strong> A lot of the above hinges on whether Bostock and Yang can deliver the promise of a deal with its long disgruntled Asian partners, Alibaba Group and SoftBank.</p>
<p>The trio is now <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111223/yahoo-okays-proceeding-with-term-sheet-to-sell-stakes-back-to-asian-partners-while-also-hoping-to-keep-pe-firms-in-fray/">engaged on negotiations</a> about a tax-free deal, in which Yahoo would sell back some of its stakes in its Asian properties and get money and other operating assets in return. </p>
<p>While it&#8217;s good news that the talks are finally proceeding with some level of normal functionality, it&#8217;s still a complex situation and one with a lot of outstanding questions.</p>
<p>Most important: Which operating assets will be bought in the deal to hand over to Yahoo? And also, what will the valuations be?</p>
<p>Sources close to the situation said that the talks remain slow-going and frustrating &#8212; &#8220;The stop-and-go of all time,&#8221; joked one person involved. But they are moving forward, which is no small thing when it comes to these three.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s critical for Yahoo, which can ill afford to disappoint shareholders if no lucrative, cash-rich deal happens in Asia. And, it needs to happen before Loeb can act on a proxy fight too, since a successful end to its Asian issues will negate his momentum dramatically.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/yahapocalypse-now-q4-results-proxy-fight-board-hijinks-and-asia-solution-combine-for-busy-month-for-yahoo/sword-in-stone_1/" rel="attachment wp-att-161894"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/sword-in-stone_1-380x280.png" alt="" title="sword-in-stone_1" width="380" height="280" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-161894" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Oh Yeah, Running the Core Business Stuff:</strong> As usual, a full and fraught month for Yahoo and its directors, who have other things to do, I assume.</p>
<p>But not me and not new CEO Thompson. By the way, the former eBay exec will presumably be very busy doing some significant rejiggering of the core Yahoo business in the meantime.</p>
<p>Could that mean a new product direction for Yahoo, for example, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120108/like-yahoo-founder-like-new-yahoo-ceo-data-is-king/">around data</a>? Could it mean a passel of new execs? Could it mean layoffs? </p>
<p>Or, could it mean Thompson will finally solve the ultimate sword-in-the-stone question: What is Yahoo?</p>
<p>And <em>that</em>, in the end, will be the real victory.</p>
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		<title>After New CEO Scott "Nice Guy" Thompson Meets Yahoo VPs, It's Time for All-Hands Meeting to Say Hello!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 18:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much more Mr. Nice Guy!]]></description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s the news that came out of a meeting that newborn Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson had yesterday afternoon with the VP-and-above staff of the Silicon Valley Internet giant:</p>
<p>No. 1: Yahoo is both a media and tech company.</p>
<p>No. 2: His focus for the next four weeks will be internal meetings and getting to know the staff.</p>
<p>No. 3: Thompson uses the following Yahoo products &#8212; email, finance and news.</p>
<p>No. 4: He is very good at explaining what eBay&#8217;s PayPal &#8212; where he just served as its president &#8212; is.</p>
<p>&#8220;If he can do that, maybe he can let us all finally know what Yahoo is, too,&#8221; joked one VP, referencing the well-known difficulty Yahoo&#8217;s CEOs have had with clearly defining the company&#8217;s mission.</p>
<p>But Thompson &#8212; whom every single person I spoke to called a &#8220;nice guy&#8221; &#8212; declined to say much about the stuff everyone really wanted to know, from the Asian assets (no comment!) to the possible investments by private equity firms (no comment!) and more (no comment!).</p>
<p>Most VPs I interviewed seemed to have a wait-and-see attitude about Thompson, who is not the kind of high-profile hire some had expected. Of prime worry: The steep learning curve he might have, in a time that requires urgency.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s not the game-changer, but he seems very competent,&#8221; said another VP. &#8220;We&#8217;ll see.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, we will. And, to start, Thompson is on display for the entire Yahoo staff at an all-hands employee meeting on Yahoo&#8217;s Sunnyvale campus, which is taking place right now. </p>
<p>More to come on that soon, as my embeds call in reports! (Was my invite lost in the mail? Not very nice!)</p>
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		<title>Liveblogging the New Yahoo CEO Call: You Might Want to Refrain From Cussing, Scott!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/liveblogging-the-new-yahoo-ceo-call-you-might-want-to-refrain-from-cussing-scott/no_swearing/" rel="attachment wp-att-159763"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/no_swearing-285x285.png" alt="" title="no_swearing" width="285" height="285" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-159763" /></a></p>
<p>This morning, Yahoo <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/confirmed-yahoo-names-paypal-head-scoot-thompson-as-new-head/">said it had hired PayPal President Scott Thompson</a> as its newest victim, <em>oops</em>, CEO. </p>
<p>(You can read <em>my</em> <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/new-yahoo-ceo-and-bosox-fanboy-scott-thompson-speaks-its-still-early-innings/">interview with him</a> too, here.)</p>
<p><strong>AllThingsD.com</strong> had reported the pending development last night &#8212; which is how we roll here.</p>
<p>Now we will roll into the conference call on the matter, and are hoping that the head of the lucrative eBay payments unit will make an appearance, given that he does not start until next week.</p>
<p>One piece of advice I will extend Thompson: I would refrain from cursing, as previous Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz did on her first outing. (She was fired in September, although not precisely for the cussing she so enjoyed partaking in.)</p>
<p>Here we go!</p>
<p><strong>7:02 am</strong>: It&#8217;s on, with Thompson present. </p>
<p>Yahoo Chairman Roy Bostock begins, and he is &#8220;very excited, very excited.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very excited if Thompson talked and not Roy, who has been to this particular Yahoo CEO rodeo a few too many times before.</p>
<p>Bostock is making promises that <em>this</em> time it&#8217;s going to be different. <em>Really!</em></p>
<p>He also notes that the company will continue its &#8220;strategic review&#8221; &#8212; but who knows what that means now.</p>
<p>And he thanks Tim Morse, the interim CEO who is moving back to the CFO job. (Agreed &#8212; nice work, Tim!)</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/liveblogging-the-new-yahoo-ceo-call-you-might-want-to-refrain-from-cussing-scott/cliff/" rel="attachment wp-att-159985"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/Cliff.png" alt="" title="Cliff" width="320" height="240" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-159985" /></a></p>
<p><strong>7:06 am</strong>: Scott Thompson is on and is &#8220;just thrilled&#8221; to be the new Yahoo CEO.</p>
<p>I like his accent, which seems like he might be from Boston. He does look and sound like Cliff Clavin, the mailman guy at the Beantown bar from the television classic &#8220;Cheers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except, given he has been the darkest of dark horses in this CEO race, <em>nobody</em> knew Thompson&#8217;s name.</p>
<p>Thompson is saying all the right stuff, about wanting to increase shareholder value and such.</p>
<p>He sounds so hopeful! Urgency! Thoughtfulness! A bright new morning at Yahoo!</p>
<p>I have been to this rodeo before too, but I am still hoping this time it&#8217;ll work. </p>
<p>Scott, if you let me down, I might cry, because you sound so nice.</p>
<p><strong>7:09 am</strong> Q&#038;A time already.</p>
<p>Congrats from the Wall Street analyst peanut gallery.</p>
<p>Then, it&#8217;s right into a question for Bostock, about the progress of the Asian assets deal. </p>
<p>Also, is Thompson too much of a technologist and not a media dude?</p>
<p>Bostock wants to talk about only Scott, but notes that there will be &#8220;no slowdown and no delay&#8221; in the Asian process. And Thompson will be all onboard when he comes on board, folks.</p>
<p>Bostock sounds tired, but starts to talk about how a &#8220;great customer experience&#8221; is the key to the advertising business. He notes that Thompson knows how to do this, hence he&#8217;ll be fantastic.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/liveblogging-the-new-yahoo-ceo-call-you-might-want-to-refrain-from-cussing-scott/hvy68nbavkg7vvp1ltkv7wsno1_500/" rel="attachment wp-att-160010"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/HVY68nBAvkg7vvp1lTkV7WSNo1_500-302x285.png" alt="" title="HVY68nBAvkg7vvp1lTkV7WSNo1_500" width="302" height="285" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-160010" /></a></p>
<p>&#8220;I have every expectation he&#8217;ll be out there calling on advertisers,&#8221; says Bostock. I would hope so, given that is where Yahoo makes most of its lettuce.</p>
<p>Bostock is saying Yahoo has been &#8220;treading water&#8221; and now needs to swim fast. Treading water? I wonder who the top honcho at Yahoo has been while the company has been listlessly dangling its legs in the drink?</p>
<p>Roy &#8212; that&#8217;s who!</p>
<p><strong>7:15 am</strong>: Another analyst asks about margins.</p>
<p>Thompson is not having any of it! He is polite when asking for time to get on the job to make proper statements.</p>
<p>But he does focus on the need to build &#8220;great, innovative&#8221; products. True, but Yahoo has been incredibly unable to do this of late.</p>
<p>Thompson gives no specifics, though. My big idea: I would steal the self-driving car from Google.</p>
<p><strong>7:17 am</strong>: A question about what the core of Yahoo is, and about what lessons Thompson is bringing from his experience at PayPal.</p>
<p>Well, he has not met the team &#8212; literally. Yahoo&#8217;s board consulted almost no one in the top ranks of execs on this appointment.</p>
<p>But Thompson &#8220;suspects&#8221; there is talent there. Given the recent attrition, he&#8217;ll need a big Inspector Clouseau magnifying glass to find it!</p>
<p>From eBay&#8217;s PayPal, he says that the key was balancing the customer experience with network effect and, well, <em>blah, blah, blah</em> Internet-speak.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/liveblogging-the-new-yahoo-ceo-call-you-might-want-to-refrain-from-cussing-scott/google-self-driving-car/" rel="attachment wp-att-160033"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/google-self-driving-car-380x253.png" alt="" title="google-self-driving-car" width="380" height="253" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-160033" /></a></p>
<p>I am still thinking shoplifting the self-driving car is the bestest idea.</p>
<p><strong>7:20 am</strong>: A question about Yahoo&#8217;s display business versus Google.</p>
<p>Thompson notes it is too early for him to say &#8212; though he had better say soon! &#8212; but notes that data is key. He is a well-known by-the-numbers guy, and that is clearly where we are going at Yahoo, now that he is the big dog.</p>
<p>Thus:</p>
<p>&#8220;The data these Internet businesses create, the ability to use analytical technology to build a better businesses for your customers &#8230; I feel certain that wealth of data is going to be exploitable for next generation products, next generation experiences &#8230; My instinct says down in that data we&#8217;re going to be able to find ways to compete and innovate that the world hasn’t seen yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am really liking this accent, which is almost lulling. And so polite! Sources tell me that being &#8220;collaborative&#8221; was a big goal in this hiring.</p>
<p><strong>7:22 am</strong>: A question about the identity of Yahoo, and whether it should be public or private.</p>
<p>Thompson harps on the need for innovation, and hopes it will be the future.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would not be here if I didn&#8217;t think it was possible,&#8221; says Thompson.</p>
<p>Bostock takes the public/private question. Yahoo will be public, he declares! Mostly, because it would be too pricey to take private.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a moot point,&#8221; he says.</p>
<p><strong>7:25 am</strong>: More questions about what Yahoo is.</p>
<p>Thompson declines to run off the rails on this dicey one, but he says he believes that Yahoo has great assets.</p>
<p>It does. It&#8217;s just that it has been crashed many times &#8212; by the people who just hired him &#8212; right into a wall. </p>
<p><em>Just sayin&#8217;</em> &#8212; a self-driving car would have done a better job.</p>
<p><strong>7:27 am</strong>: A brain-drain question, and more on Asia and on mobile.</p>
<p>Bostock butts in again. He said that Thompson will not be distracted by that, and will concentrate on the core business. Hush up, Roy.</p>
<p>Thompson says that he looks forward to meeting the peeps of Yahoo. (&rsquo;Cuz he has not, as yet!)</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/liveblogging-the-new-yahoo-ceo-call-you-might-want-to-refrain-from-cussing-scott/spongebob-squarepants/" rel="attachment wp-att-160056"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/01/spongebob-squarepants-316x285.png" alt="" title="spongebob-squarepants" width="316" height="285" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-160056" /></a></p>
<p>He also loves mobile &#8212; which Yahoo has largely borked.</p>
<p><strong>7:32 am</strong>: A content strategy question. Early days, so Thompson is still keeping his yap shut.</p>
<p>In this, he&#8217;s like the anti-Bartz. Is this good? It&#8217;s certainly different.</p>
<p>He says again that, &#8220;I can&#8217;t wait to meet&#8221; everyone at Yahoo. Vice versa, because this dude came from left field.</p>
<p>Thompson promises that he will be a &#8220;sponge.&#8221;</p>
<p>He closes by noting that he is &#8220;genuinely excited,&#8221; and says he believes in Yahoo.</p>
<p>Indeed, when it comes to Yahoo, you definitely gotta have faith.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Okays Initial Term Sheet to Sell Stakes Back to Asian Partners -- While Also Hoping to Keep PE Firms in Fray</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111223/yahoo-okays-proceeding-with-term-sheet-to-sell-stakes-back-to-asian-partners-while-also-hoping-to-keep-pe-firms-in-fray/spongebob_thumbsup/" rel="attachment wp-att-156723"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/spongebob_thumbsup.png" alt="" title="spongebob_thumbsup" width="380" height="285" class="alignright size-full wp-image-156723" /></a></p>
<p>Yahoo shareholders felt a little giddier earlier this week, when it seemed as if the company had finally decided to make a deal with its Asian partners.</p>
<p>But the happiest crew might end up being the Silicon Valley Internet giant&#8217;s outside counsel, Skadden Arps &#8212; and especially <a href="http://www.skadden.com/index.cfm?contentID=45&#038;bioID=1514">Leif King</a>, the fantastically named legal eagle who has been advising Yahoo on the deal.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because today the Yahoo board approved continuing the negotiations to come to a final agreement over the stake, sources said, which should take six to eight weeks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll surely be happy holidays for billable hours!</p>
<p>As costly as the legal bills will be, if it all goes well, an Asian solution will mean one major problem solved, with a possible pile of cash and new assets coming in to Yahoo. </p>
<p>To get there, the company signed a term sheet earlier this week with Japan&#8217;s SoftBank to sell back all its holdings there, and with China&#8217;s Alibaba Group to sell off more than half its stake (moving from a 40 percent stake to a 15 percent one).</p>
<p>The deal values Yahoo&#8217;s total shares in both companies at about $17 billion.</p>
<p>While it gets a pretty accounting name &#8212; &#8220;cash-rich split &#8220;&#8211; the vehicle to unwind it all is essentially a complex tax dodge finally cooked up by the trio, in which cash, new assets and stock will be moved around until everyone gets what they want (except the U.S. government).</p>
<p>I would explain it &#8212; but I am on vacation, and would rather drink eggnog and sleep &#8212; so here is <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204552304577116733621100176.html#ixzz1hOAcfLSg">The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s version</a>, which I like because it sounds like Alibaba and SoftBank are giving Yahoo a hugely loaded Starbucks card for Christmas:</p>
<p>&#8220;As envisioned in the scenario, Alibaba would create a subsidiary into which it would put several billion dollars of cash, plus an operating asset that Yahoo wants to buy using additional cash from Alibaba, almost like giving Yahoo a prepaid card for an asset of its choice, the people said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Everyone is hoping there will not be any hiccups in the deal, which has been spearheaded by Yahoo board member and Intuit CEO Brad Smith, and Jerry Yang, who is also the company&#8217;s co-founder and a major shareholder.</p>
<p>Alibaba CEO Jack Ma and CFO Joe Tsai, both co-founders of that company, were the point men for the Chinese company. And for SoftBank, it was its founder and CEO Masa Son and his main U.S. exec, Ron Fisher.</p>
<p>Now, said sources, Yahoo&#8217;s board is hoping to still keep the bids from a pair of private equity firms &#8212; Silver Lake and TPG Capital &#8212; alive.</p>
<p>While initially the focus on the action, the PE bidding for partial Yahoo stakes has recently been sidelined by the Asian deal.</p>
<p>Now, sources said, Yahoo is hoping the new infusion of cash and assets will allow it fend off shareholder unrest &#8212; <em>stock buybacks and dividends, anyone </em> &#8212; to solicit higher prices from the firms to make strategic investments.</p>
<p>Yahoo had considered the initial bids too low, as did some very pissed-off activist shareholders.</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s not clear if those firms will jack their offers now, although sources said Silver Lake is still interested in some sort of deal that would give it influence over remaking Yahoo.</p>
<p>Silver Lake and others think the long-troubled company could be revived with some effort, and become a much more lucrative Web property. </p>
<p>But those negotiations might run into roadblocks over who gets to pick leadership for the company. Yahoo has <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111220/yahoo-intensifies-search-for-ceo-with-hulus-kilar-as-dream-unicorn-candidate/">accelerated its efforts to hire a new CEO</a>, after firing Carol Bartz in September. </p>
<p>The PE firms, who would buy a large stake in Yahoo, also have wanted some level of control, including CEO and board approval, in order to be able to make massive changes at the company to turn it around.</p>
<p>Wall Street seems to like the Asian part of the deal, at least, since it shows some sort of forward momentum at Yahoo, and from its often-lugubrious board. </p>
<p>Shares are up almost 7 percent in the last few days, although they are not popping as they might be, given that new valuations based on a successful Asian deal put the stock at a much higher price.</p>
<p>In other words, investors like what they see, but are watching and waiting for more.</p>
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		<title>Three Months After Bartz's Firing, It's Hurry Up and Wait at Yahoo (A Big Honking Update)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still no sale or investment deal. No new CEO. No Asia resolution. And, perhaps most importantly, no clearly articulated strategy going forward. 

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<p><em>&#8220;Let&#8217;s go. Yes, let&#8217;s go.&#8221; [They do not move.]</p>
<p>&#8211; Samuel Beckett, &#8220;Waiting for Godot&#8221;</em></p>
<p>In Internet terms, the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110906/exclusive-carol-bartz-out-at-yahoo-cfo-interim-ceo/">removal of Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz</a> happened a dog&#8217;s age ago.</p>
<p>In fact, it was September 6. </p>
<p>Since then, it has felt like a slow slog, especially contrasting the situation with that of another troubled Silicon Valley giant, Hewlett-Packard,<a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110922/exclusive-whitman-expected-to-get-ceo-nod-after-markets-close-and-not-for-the-interim-either/"> which fired its CEO Léo Apotheker and appointed a new one, Meg Whitman</a> on September 22.</p>
<p>Since then, in comparison, the former eBay CEO has been like the Energizer Bunny, making a series of major and often difficult decisions, including: <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111027/hp-will-keep-pc-division/">Holding onto its PC unit</a>; reaffirming its controversial deal to <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111206/autonomys-mike-lynch-talks-about-being-hps-speedy-tiger-cub-video/">buy Autonomy</a>; <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/whitman-webos-decision-coming-at-hp-within-two-weeks/">promising a decision</a> on the fate of its webOS unit within the next two weeks; <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111103/hp-hires-new-evp-from-boeing-names-new-cio/">appointing new execs</a>; and even <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111206/whoops-hp-just-bought-another-company/">buying a company</a>. </p>
<p>To be fair, Yahoo did acquire <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111101/yahoo-buys-ad-network-interclick-for-270-million/">advertising start-up Interclick</a>. </p>
<p>Otherwise, still no sale or investment deal. No new CEO. No Asia resolution. And, perhaps most importantly, no clearly articulated strategy going forward. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that Yahoo&#8217;s leadership isn&#8217;t working at it. </p>
<p>Some fervently insist to me that there is a &#8220;plan,&#8221; as if there is some clever game of Internet Stratego going on that I cannot possibly grok.</p>
<p><em>Mebbe</em> &#8212; but of this I have no doubt: The Yahoo board has indeed been huffing and puffing away, weighing and measuring, considering and debating. </p>
<p><em>A lot.</em> </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just too impatient. I am (ask my kids). </p>
<p>Or maybe Yahoo&#8217;s beleaguered employees are, one of whom just wrote me plaintively, &#8220;unreal how they can drag this out,&#8221; in what has become a common refrain up and down the ranks.</p>
<p>Or maybe it&#8217;s the Asian partners, Alibaba Group and SoftBank, who are antsy and have considered a variety of nuclear options in order to get back stakes Yahoo holds in them. Said one: &#8220;The strategy seems to be to frustrate and exhaust us into submission.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111207/three-months-after-bartzs-firing-its-hurry-up-and-wait-at-yahoo-a-big-honking-update/61c8onc-rol/" rel="attachment wp-att-151430"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/61C8OnC-RoL.png" alt="" title="61C8OnC-RoL" width="300" height="300" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-151430" /></a></p>
<p>Or, finally, maybe it&#8217;s the newly frustrated recent bidders for a partial stake in Yahoo, Silver Lake and TPG Capital. Declared one to me after I warned that Yahoo might, in fact, drag the proceedings out longer than you might expect: &#8220;I thought you were kidding.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nope, welcome to the Yahoo waiting game, PE guys! </p>
<p>So, to help us all get through it, here&#8217;s a quick update primer on what&#8217;s what on the various fronts:</p>
<p><strong>Who&#8217;s in Charge Here?</strong></p>
<p>Technically, it is the Yahoo board, which is aided by interim CEO Tim Morse.</p>
<p>First, a word about Morse: By all accounts, he is doing a very good job as temporary head honcho &#8212; calming the troubled company, making swift decisions about daily operating issues and being a generally nice dude to deal with.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s Yahoo&#8217;s no-drama Obama, in comparison to what was happening before,&#8221; said one exec, in reference to the more volatile regime under Bartz. </p>
<p>Still, despite his <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110930/only-one-yahoo-fearless-leader-note-this-week-please-ignore-the-un-ignorable-rumors/">very pleasant all-hands meetings</a>, such as one earlier this week, Morse had previously been Yahoo&#8217;s CFO and not an Internet-savvy visionary to give the company inspiration. No insult intended, but he&#8217;s the accountant guy. </p>
<p>To be fair, he is not meant to be the visionary, but many at the company are yearning for exactly that.</p>
<p>A role that is now being taken up again by co-founder, former CEO and director Jerry Yang, who dozens of employees tell me is <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110908/return-of-the-jerry-co-founder-yang-back-in-yahoo-spotlight-again-amid-all-new-turmoil-and-tensions-too/">unusually involved in operational details</a> these days for a board member. </p>
<p>I get reports of sightings of him all the livelong day: Jerry in demand-side advertising confab! Jerry chitchatting with entrepreneurs from a possible start-up acquisition! Jerry weighing in on a variety of products. Look, over in the cubicle, <em>it&#8217;s Jerry</em>! </p>
<p>This is seen by Yahoo employees as a good thing and also a bad thing, since it&#8217;s hard to be running your little divisional show at Yahoo with the dude who invented it all looking over your shoulder, even if he means well. People naturally defer to Yang, the 800-pound Web icon in the room.</p>
<p>But, given the overwhelming state of stasis at Yahoo now &#8212; &#8220;No one can do anything until we find out how the story ends,&#8221; said one staffer &#8212; and employees eying the exits, no power at Yahoo really matters but the board.</p>
<p><em>You know</em>, the board that has gotten the company to this moment of crisis and profound ennui, which is its own particularly ironic irony. </p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111207/three-months-after-bartzs-firing-its-hurry-up-and-wait-at-yahoo-a-big-honking-update/yahoocomm/" rel="attachment wp-att-151330"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/yahoocomm-640x408.png" alt="" title="yahoocomm" width="640" height="408" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-151330" /></a></p>
<p>To better understand the power dynamics on the board, above is a little chart for you to peruse to give you an idea of which independent board member is running what key committee. </p>
<p>The only truly important one is the Transactions and Strategic Planning committee, which is headed by Intuit President and CEO Brad Smith and includes former Akamai President (and former Yahoo CEO candidate) <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111108/with-no-yahoo-ceo-pledge-david-kenny-back-in-the-strategic-fray/">David Kenny</a>, top HP exec Vyomesh Joshi and other guy Gary Wilson.</p>
<p>And, in completely visible shadow form, Yang. Multiple sources close to the situation said he has been a key force in the strategery around a possible sale or investment. </p>
<p>This has caused not more than a little tension among board members, but everyone seems to like the much described nicest-man-in-the-room, Smith, and hopes his cool head will prevail.</p>
<p>Another important part of the board is the Nominating and Corporate Governance committee run by Patti Hart, who is energetically and simultaneously &#8212; if pointlessly &#8212; in search of a capable new Yahoo CEO.</p>
<p>Or, as I like to call this mythical person: The Unicorn.</p>
<p><strong>The Deal</strong></p>
<p>As I and many others have previously reported, there are <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111121/nda-worthy-pe-firms-silver-lake-and-tpg-meet-with-top-yahoo-operating-execs/">bids on the table for partial investments</a> in Yahoo by two very powerful private equity firms, Silver Lake and TPG Capital.</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s a PE rumble, with a side of Microsoft financial backing! (I think Silver Lake&#8217;s Egon Durban makes a very nice Riff, while Microsoft&#8217;s Steve Ballmer is the perfect Officer Krupke.)</p>
<p>My fervent wishes for some figurative and dance-accompanied knife-play aside, the bids are essentially the same in general and different in particular. Silver Lake is offering about $16.50 a share, while TPG is dangling a tiny bit more. Silver Lake has power entrepreneur and VC Marc Andreessen on its side, while TPG is trying to get Silicon Valley fave investor and start-up whisperer <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111201/the-golden-geek-vs-the-start-up-whisperer-in-yahoo-savior-faceoff-not-yet-but-delicious-to-imagine/">Reid Hoffman</a> of Greylock Partners and LinkedIn on its team. Both have ideas on CEOs, strategy and what to do about the Asian assets.</p>
<p>This type of deal could happen suddenly and you&#8217;ll hear about it quick, since the losing side will immediately trash it to the media. </p>
<p>As you might expect, each director has their favorite PE firm, with some not liking Andreessen, some thinking the TPG bid is a little light, some for a whole-company deal and some wanting Yahoo to hire its own CEO and run the place itself.</p>
<p>Of course, the last one shows a disturbing level of denial and should be a nonstarter, given the board&#8217;s abysmal record on CEO choice and its riding of Yahoo to this sad point in its storied history. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what to expect on the PE front: A lot of wrangling behind the scenes with frequent leaks to the media about what each side wants and will not yield on. </p>
<p>CEO choice or no CEO choice, that is the question!</p>
<p>Also a big factor are Yahoo&#8217;s major shareholders, few of whom like the partial investment deal, which is known as a PIPE (Private Investment in Public Equity), because of the insiderness of it all and because they prefer a whole-company sale at a higher price. </p>
<p>There is also pressure from activist shareholders like <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111104/yahoos-activist-shareholder-loeb-now-targeting-jerry-yang/">Daniel Loeb</a> of Third Point, who has attacked Yang and others on the board and is ready to pounce with a proxy fight if Yahoo tries to override shareholders too egregiously. And, of course, the inevitable lawsuits over any arrangement that seems to block a whole-company bid.</p>
<p>That said, such a mega-deal seems unlikely, since it is too pricey and despite a lot of noise that Yahoo&#8217;s Asian partners were ready to strike with a takeover in order to get back Yahoo&#8217;s big stakes in their companies.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111207/three-months-after-bartzs-firing-its-hurry-up-and-wait-at-yahoo-a-big-honking-update/yogi-bear-show-02/" rel="attachment wp-att-151459"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/yogi-bear-show-02-248x285.png" alt="" title="yogi-bear-show-02" width="248" height="285" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-151459" /></a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s kind of like buying a store to get back the cool pair of shoes you sold, but bankers love to scheme up this stuff. While it certainly could happen, it would be a bear of a deal. </p>
<p>Perhaps more like Yogi Bear, hopelessly angling for a tasty pic-a-nik basket &#8212; but <em>grrrr</em> anyway.</p>
<p>But perhaps the biggest factor in all of this mishegas is <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111123/for-yahoo-and-me-too-time-is-brain/">time</a>. There is none on a lot of levels, most especially the increasing level of brain drain and drift at Yahoo. After the New Year dawns, this is going to spin right out of control and amount to the biggest internal challenge Yahoo faces.</p>
<p><strong>An Asian Solution</strong></p>
<p>As I and others have reported, Yahoo is <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111202/wielding-a-sword-of-damocles-yahoos-asian-partners-await-answer-on-yet-another-proposal-to-buy-back-shares/">entertaining yet another proposal</a> to sell all or part of its Asian assets back to the companies, which make up a bulk of its market valuation.</p>
<p>The relationship between Yahoo and its Asian partners has long been fraught, and today the difficulty of reaching an agreement remains a vexing issue. That&#8217;s because it is hard and complex and because no one wants to do what the other side wants.</p>
<p>I am no tax attorney, but it seems as if Yahoo will ultimately come to some deal with China&#8217;s Alibaba and Japan&#8217;s SoftBank, which could include big investors like Russia&#8217;s DST Global. </p>
<p>And, as I reported last week, the Asian partners want to strike a deal with the current board rather than lose leverage with a much cannier new owner.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough decision in all aspects to strike, but would remove the focus on the fact that Yahoo&#8217;s most valuable asset is something it is not running and simply holds due to a good stock trade in years past.</p>
<p>Years past should be the operative thought here, since the Asian assets have nothing to do with what Yahoo needs to do with its core U.S. and global brand.</p>
<p>You know, the thing that allowed them to buy those lucrative Asian assets in the first place?</p>
<p><strong>Strategery</strong></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the crux of all this, isn&#8217;t it? Yahoo needs a new strategy and fast. </p>
<p>Or it needs to clarify and hone its current strategies around advertising and media and define itself once and for all. While it often touts itself as a premier digital media company, it&#8217;s still not clear exactly what Yahoo is saying by that.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111207/three-months-after-bartzs-firing-its-hurry-up-and-wait-at-yahoo-a-big-honking-update/who_am_i_24601_tshirt-p235292740896407012zvh3u_400/" rel="attachment wp-att-151483"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/who_am_i_24601_tshirt-p235292740896407012zvh3u_400-285x285.png" alt="" title="who_am_i_24601_tshirt-p235292740896407012zvh3u_400" width="285" height="285" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-151483" /></a></p>
<p>In fact, <em>incredibly</em>, sources told me that the board was still wrangling over the tired issue of what Yahoo is at its most recent meeting &#8212; essentially, is it a products company or a media company? </p>
<p>If I had to listen to that who-am-I-anyway debate again, I think I would scream, given how many important Web trends that Yahoo has whiffed in recent years, many of which were right in its own wheelhouse.</p>
<p>How much damage this has caused to Yahoo&#8217;s core business is a critical one to determine, with many feeling the situation is too far gone to revive it and others confident that this is simply an issue of poor execution. </p>
<p>I am in the middle on this one, but all the indicators of Yahoo&#8217;s business have long been heading in the wrong direction, and results in the next quarter are expected to underline this even more.</p>
<p>Thus, the board&#8217;s navel-gazing at this point is untoward, considering that it is presiding over the possibility of a sale that should not have had to happen in the first place. While it is not quite a fire sale, it&#8217;s no cause for celebration at all the attention, either.</p>
<p>In fact, it&#8217;s also pointless, since &#8212; if this all resolves as it should &#8212; the current Yahoo board will not be the one determining the company&#8217;s future any longer. Remember that: This group should and will be gone for the most part.</p>
<p>Yahoo shareholders and employees can hope, at least.</p>
<p>Then, it will be up to the next group of leaders to make the very hard choices &#8212; including what are likely to be massive layoffs and radical surgery on its offerings &#8212; for what&#8217;s to come next.</p>
<p>In the end, that is all that will matter. Until then, as usual, you&#8217;ll have to sit tight.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[While last week's swirl around an Alibaba takeover of Yahoo were overhyped and premature, a lot of what will happen depends on negotiations to settle a longtime asset dispute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/damocles.png" alt="" title="damocles" width="380" height="285" class="alignright size-full wp-image-149917" />There were a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/yahoo-stock-gets-gaslit-by-bidders-trying-to-thwart-other-bidders/">lot of furious rumors</a> earlier this week that Yahoo&#8217;s longtime Asian partners &#8212; the Alibaba Group and SoftBank &#8212; were poised to lob a $25 billion takeover bomb at the Silicon Valley Internet giant to get back big stakes it holds in their companies.</p>
<p>Though last week&#8217;s reports were overblown and premature, it certainly might come to that at some point if past is prologue &#8212; Alibaba CEO Jack Ma has declared his interest  <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111019/jack-ma-asiad/">publicly a number of times</a> and has certainly been <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111111/alibaba-and-softbank-meet-with-blackstone-as-promised-yahoo-investment-effort-proceeds/">busy lining up his financial and strategic partners</a> to do so.</p>
<p>This is one very sharp <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles">sword of Damocles</a> hovering over Yahoo that could drop at any time and very quickly. It has impact, too, because every day there are unsettling Wall Street whispers that the bid is coming &#8212; I got three today, in fact, that it would happen Monday.</p>
<p>Actually, the day it is most likely to happen is the moment after Yahoo once again turns down the pair&#8217;s latest offer to buy back their shares in a complex tax-free transaction.</p>
<p>This has been a multi-year effort on the part of the trio, one littered mostly with recrimination and tears. Lots and lots of tears.</p>
<p>But this time, it&#8217;s critical to the Asian partners to strike the deal with Yahoo &#8212; and before its current board does another deal with current private equity bidders it is now contemplating. </p>
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<p>Because once new leadership is in power, Ma&#8217;s leverage goes <em>buh-bye</em>. Now, it is a quantum level higher with the old Yahoos than with the next ones, who will have much more control and power over the company. </p>
<p>Thus, the threat of a possible whole company bid at a higher prices &#8212; a tasty treat to disgruntled shareholders &#8212; keeps the pressure on Yahoo&#8217;s current directors not to make a partial deal that is considered wanting.</p>
<p>This bird in the hand is seen as critical to Alibaba and SoftBank, who want only to get back their stakes and not to engage in what would turn into an ugly and hostile battle for control of all of Yahoo. </p>
<p>As one source told me last week: &#8220;The threat of a takeover is more useful than the damage an actual takeover would cause for everyone. No one wants this to be unfriendly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perish the thought!</p>
<p>Yahoo board member Brad Smith &#8212; who is Intuit&#8217;s CEO and president in his spare time &#8212; has become the key man in this whole complex sales process and has also taken up the central role in dealing with the Asian proposal, along with Yahoo&#8217;s interim CEO, Tim Morse, and its legal head, Mike Callaghan.</p>
<p><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/Alexander_cuts_the_Gordian_Knot-367x285.png" alt="" title="Alexander_cuts_the_Gordian_Knot" width="367" height="285" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-149929" /></p>
<p>They have to wrangle what to do with Yahoo&#8217;s 40 percent stake in Alibaba and a 35 percent holding in Yahoo Japan, which makes up a great deal of the company&#8217;s value and has become its most vexing Gordian knot.</p>
<p>Still, after a number of previous efforts failed miserably, Alibaba and Softbank brought yet another proposal to Yahoo in early October that would spin off the stakes to them and also avoid a big tax bill. </p>
<p>The sides have been talking on and off amid the other noise at Yahoo of late, which this week centered on <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/yahoo-bidders-come-in-at-16-50-to-17-50-with-plan-to-keep-jerry-yang-staying-on-board/">low-priced bids for a partial investment in Yahoo</a> from two separate PE firms, Silver Lake and TPG Capital.</p>
<p>Now what Yahoo does with its Asian assets matters to them, too, as both have their own plans for the dispensation of those stakes as key elements of their deals.</p>
<p>So it is not clear what would happen if the Alibaba and SoftBank shares were sold before either deal was done.</p>
<p>But it is unlikely to be a positive thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Asian assets are downside protection if the core Yahoo business is melting faster than anyone thinks,&#8221; said one person. &#8220;Without it there, Yahoo might be a lot more risky to buy into.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like, you might say, trying to catch a falling knife.</p>
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		<title>Wealthfront Finally Launches, Aimed at Silicon Valley's "Richie Rich" Newbies</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It's a financial planning tool aimed at geeks.]]></description>
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<p>Wealthfront, the Silicon Valley start-up with more than $10 million in its own kitty, finally officially launched its long-planned Online Financial Advisor product today, with a focus on attracting techies interested in more easily managing their money.</p>
<p>The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company, which started off as a social investing site called kaChing, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20101019/presto-chango-kaching-becomes-wealthfront/">shifted over to the new plan</a> just over a year ago. Its aim now is to try to solve the thorny problem of delivering actionable and easy-to-use tools for making investments online, for those who have some money but little time or expertise. </p>
<p>A lot of companies offer similar tools, of course, including big ones such as Fidelity and Schwab, as well as bigger money-management firms. But Wealthfront&#8217;s CEO Andy Rachleff and founder Dan Carroll are promising lower fees and more accurate determination of risk via all kinds of online bells and whistles (see below).</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111201/wealthfront-finally-lauches-aimed-at-silicon-valleys-newbie-richie-richs/investment-plan-page/" rel="attachment wp-att-149133"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/Investment-plan-page-640x360.png" alt="" title="Investment plan page" width="640" height="360" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-149133" /></a></p>
<p>Wealthfront is not charging advisory fees on a customer&#8217;s first $25,000 under management, with a fee of 0.25% on assets exceeding that.</p>
<p>Wealthfront is backed by DAG Ventures and well-known investors, including Marc Andreessen and Jeff Jordan.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a video Wealthfront posted about the service, as well as its official press release:</p>
<p><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/32847702?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="640" height="360" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe></p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p><strong>Wealthfront Unveils Automated Online Financial Advisor Service for Silicon Valley and High-Tech Hubs</p>
<p>Highly Sophisticated Investing Advice Finally Made Available through Simple and Low Cost Web Service  </p>
<p>PALO ALTO, Calif., December 1, 2011 &#8211;</strong> The ability for the savvy tech community to easily access high quality, affordable financial advice is now available with the launch of the Wealthfront Online Financial Advisor. Before Wealthfront, sophisticated investment advice was available only to the wealthy, by expensive financial advisors who often can&#8217;t relate to today&#8217;s tech-savvy generation who want sound financial advice, made easy and convenient. Wealthfront&#8217;s Online Financial Advisor appeals to investors from booming tech communities who favor doing everything online, and are looking for ways to have their new wealth managed for far lower fees. </p>
<p>At the core of Wealthfront&#8217;s web service is the industry-standard Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT). Until now, the widely adopted investing model has been kept out of consumers&#8217; reach, and was only accessible via expensive financial advisors. Wealthfront automates the application of this intricate investment model, putting the power of MPT directly into the hands of investors online. Moreover, Wealthfront&#8217;s pricing structure trumps all traditional financial advisor models. The online service makes it possible to receive a sophisticated, meticulously managed investment plan at a price that is 75% lower than traditional financial advisors. There are no advisory fees on a customer&#8217;s first $25,000 under management, and only a fee of 0.25% on assets exceeding $25,000.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is exactly what most people in the technology industry need. It&#8217;s the kind of advice you&#8217;d get if you had Goldman Sachs manage your money and it does away with the hidden fees we in tech despise,&#8221; said Piaw Na, a long time, former employee of Google and popular blogger on the topic of investing.  &#8220;What&#8217;s more, the recommendation on the investment mix is provided with a full explanation of what was picked and why, making the whole experience a massive and much needed shift that is especially appealing now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wealthfront&#8217;s high quality investing advice is powered by its Precision-Investing Platform™, the breakthrough software behind the service. The Platform uniquely assesses a customer&#8217;s true risk tolerance, recommends an optimized portfolio of carefully selected Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) spanning six asset classes, and monitors and periodically rebalances the investment mix to maintain a customer&#8217;s desired risk tolerance. </p>
<p>Wealthfront is backed by Silicon Valley luminaries including DAG Ventures and individual investors including Marc Andreessen, Jeff Jordan, former OpenTable CEO and President of PayPal now at venture firm Andreessen Horowitz, and partners from Benchmark Capital, Index Ventures and Kleiner Perkins Caufield &#038; Byers.</p>
<p>&#8220;The financial advisor world has long recognized that one day the Internet and software would pose a credible threat to their hold on the sub $5 million category of individual investors,&#8221; said Paul Pfleiderer, C.O.G. Miller Distinguished Professor of Finance at Stanford Graduate School of Business, and Wealthfront advisor. &#8220;Wealthfront has made accessible what historically had been out of reach or prohibitively costly for a large class of investors. By using a simple, yet powerful engine for accurately assessing risk and return in the MPT context, Wealthfront has established a new standard for quality financial advisement on the web.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;With the biggest names in venture capital and the brightest minds in software development, we&#8217;re ushering in a financial advisor service that’s capable of precisely managing a customer’s investments from $5,000 to tens of millions with a pricing approach unheard of in the financial services industry,&#8221; said Andy Rachleff, CEO of Wealthfront. &#8220;Wealthfront emerges at a time when many tech companies are enjoying record earnings, initial public offerings, and strong acquisitions. This creates masses of people in tech looking to invest for the first time and who want to manage their finances in the same manner they’ve organized every other aspect of their lives, online.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The promise of the Internet is to disrupt incumbent providers, enabling new companies to provide high quality services at substantial savings through the innovative use of software,&#8221; said Jeff Jordan, Wealthfront board member, former CEO OpenTable and President of PayPal and now General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz.  &#8220;Wealthfront embodies this promise, democratizing access to high quality financial advice. I believe this will appeal strongly to a generation that has grown up with the Net and use it to manage all facets of their life.&#8221; </p>
<p>For more information on Wealthfront Online Financial Advisor, or to create a free account, visit www.wealthfront.com.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Digital Marketing Start-Up Thismoment Raises $7.3 Million From Sierra Ventures</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another day, another pile of funding for a social marketing start-up.]]></description>
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<p>Thismoment, the San Francisco-based digital marketing platform provider, said it has raised $7.3 million in its first institutional venture round from Sierra Ventures.</p>
<p>Before this funding, the company raised $4.25 million since 2008, when it was founded as a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20090623/creating-moments-of-your-life/">content-sharing Web site</a>.</p>
<p>The company, which serves brands and agencies with its Distributed Engagement Channel platform, said it is aimed at &#8220;managing content, conversation and creative assets across earned, owned and paid media channels.&#8221; That means marketing &#8220;initiatives across Facebook, YouTube, brand sites, rich media ad units, mobile devices, tablets and digital outdoor placements,&#8221; as well as a platform to manage these social marketing campaigns.</p>
<p>Sierra&#8217;s Mark Fernandes will join the board. Other investors include private equity firm Fenway Partners, as well as well-known digital execs Shelby Bonnie, Jason Hirschhorn and Mika Salmi.</p>
<p>Thismoment said it will use the new funds to expand operations in the U.S. and also add them internationally.</p>
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		<title>As Yahoo Ponders Its Fate Endlessly -- Selling Off Yahoo Japan Stake Is Suddenly Its Easiest Option</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would the sale of its Japanese asset give the Silicon Valley Internet giant at least one silver lining amidst the many dark clouds?]]></description>
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<p>I have called Yahoo the Hamlet of the Internet many times, for its seemingly endless ruminating on what it should do and what it should be. </p>
<p>And that is true on a lot of fronts &#8212; from its strategic direction to rejiggering its advertising business to finding solid leadership to whether or not it will sell itself and how to a variety of bidders.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no small irony then that perhaps it&#8217;s only easy move right now and the one most likely to happen soon &#8212; and which could temporarily assuage its always restless shareholders &#8212; is to finally settle a long and arduous effort to sell its Japanese assets.</p>
<p>Sources close to the situation said that the deal &#8212; as has been reported &#8212; is the closest to a deal compared to any other that Yahoo is contemplating. </p>
<p>Sale or outside investment discussions remain mired, while similar share sale discussions with its Chinese partner, Alibaba Group, remain a constant roundelay of dashed deals.</p>
<p>It has not always been thus recently between Yahoo and Yahoo Japan. Just over a year ago, the company <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20100726/yahoo-japan-confirms-google-switch-for-both-paid-and-algo-search/">shifted its paid and algorithmic search</a> from Yahoo to Google, raising tensions between the companies. </p>
<p>Now, though, Japan has become the easy one. </p>
<p>In actuality, striking an actual deal is not and has been a task is on that Yahoo has been working on for many years, trying to figure out the best tax-free way to shed its 35 percent stake.</p>
<p>It makes sense, since the asset is no longer a strategic plus it once was.</p>
<p>It also frees up a lot of cash. As of September 30th, according to Yahoo, the pre-tax value of its Yahoo Japan stake was worth $6.4 billion. Presumably, Yahoo would either use the money to bolster its business or, more likely, give its shareholders some kind of dividend.</p>
<p>In such a deal, Yahoo&#8217;s longtime Japanese partner &#8212; and one of its very first investors &#8212; SoftBank would buy out Yahoo&#8217;s stake. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the simple way of putting a deal that only an accountant can grok. But one plus is that if Yahoo does pull it off, it would be rid the company of one complication too many. </p>
<p>That said, any Japanese asset sale could also be impossible without a larger settlement of Yahoo&#8217;s globally connected issues &#8212; or, as I like to call it, the hairball.</p>
<p>And SoftBank, which already owns a lot of Yahoo Japan would certainly need more than just cash &#8212; perhaps more of Alibaba than it already owns &#8212; to be enticed to buy even more.</p>
<p>Also, for all intents and purpose, SoftBank is the only buyer of Yahoo&#8217;s Japan asset, so there&#8217;s that issue.</p>
<p>But if it could show some progress in some part of its hopelessly complicated world, for Yahoo, that is always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>Alibaba's Jack Ma at Stanford: "We Are Very Interested" in Buying the "Whole" of Yahoo</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In answer to a direct question about whether his company was going to buy Yahoo at a forum at Stanford University in Silicon Valley this afternoon, Alibaba Chairman and CEO Jack Ma said: "We are very interested" in buying all of it.]]></description>
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<p>In answer to a direct question about whether his company was going to buy Yahoo at a forum at Stanford University in Silicon Valley this afternoon, Alibaba Group Chairman and CEO Jack Ma said: &#8220;We are very interested.&#8221;</p>
<p>Said Ma: &#8220;We are very interested in Yahoo. Our Alibaba group is important to Yahoo and Yahoo is important to us &#8230; All the serious buyers interested in Yahoo have talked to us.&#8221; </p>
<p>Finally, at least one crystal clear answer in the confusion at Yahoo. More importantly, it is the first time Ma has indicated that he wanted to be a principal player in any deal around Yahoo rather than an element of a buying group.</p>
<p>Later, in answer to a question I posed about how he was going to do that, Ma said he wanted the &#8220;whole&#8221; company, but that the effort was complicated and included a number of players.</p>
<p>Again, he said: &#8220;We are very, <em>very</em> interested.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also asked him if he had visited Yahoo in his trip to California, which Ma said he has not in 15 days here so far. He said he has mostly been sleeping and eating, as part of a longer-term visit to the U.S.</p>
<p>Ma&#8217;s declaration came as part of a lively closing keynote speech at Stanford University&#8217;s Graduate School of Business, where he talked about the Chinese Internet company&#8217;s growth, focusing on how China is the next great Web economy.</p>
<p>Talking about competitors such as eBay, which have tried to enter the huge Asian market, he joked that &#8220;eBay might be sharks in the ocean, but Alibaba is a crocodile in the Yangtze.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, given his presence in Silicon Valley, one topic of interest was whether Ma would be heading over to visit nearby Yahoo and what role he will play in the current internal debate over the company&#8217;s future in the wake of the ousting of its CEO Carol Bartz.</p>
<p>The disposition on Yahoo&#8217;s Asian assets, which includes 40 percent of Alibaba and a large stake in Yahoo! Japan, are critical to the current strategic review of the company, since they make up a large part of its market valuation.</p>
<p>In comparison, the value of its U.S. and other global assets are small.</p>
<p>When later asked about his experience of being involved with Yahoo, which made a very canny investment by Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang in Alibaba many years ago, Ma also said that he would do it again, but not in the same way.</p>
<p>The same way has to do with the level of foreign ownership, which Ma has been trying to reduce in a number of ways and which Yahoo has thus far resisted.</p>
<p>To answer a question about the fight between Ma and Yahoo over its Alipay fight, when Ma spun it out of Alibaba, he said the situation was tense, but that today &#8220;the problem is solved and I am half-burnt.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was referring to a settlement, which will require a lot of growth from the still-nascent online payment business. </p>
<p>Ma was asked later about the biggest misunderstanding in the U.S. about China and vice versa. &#8220;Our job is not to solve the misunderstanding,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Our job is to change ourselves to solve the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>In another query about his relationship with Yahoo&#8217;s Yang, Ma called him a lifelong friend and also said he appreciated how much that meant to Alibaba&#8217;s beginnings.</p>
<p>&#8220;But, this is business and not personal,&#8221; Ma said about the current situation. &#8220;While we appreciate yesterday, but we are looking for a better tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
<p>The first line, for those not mad fans of the classic movie like me, is from &#8220;The Godfather.&#8221;</p>
<p>The question is, though, will Ma make Yang an offer he can&#8217;t refuse?</p>
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		<title>Yahoo for Sale: Possible Bidders Circling -- Including Marc Andreessen -- as Board Pressure Mounts</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Yahoo's board meets today to talk about what to do next, the unsettled situation at the Silicon Valley Internet giant might overtake them sooner than later.]]></description>
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<p>A range of major players interested in acquiring all or a large piece of Yahoo have been prepping possible bids and have been in touch with the Internet giant&#8217;s board over the last several days.</p>
<p>While <a href="http://allthingsd.com/tag/yahoo/">Yahoo</a> has publicly said it was not for sale, according to numerous sources both inside and outside the company, it has been receptive to the interest and its Chairman Roy Bostock and Co-founder Jerry Yang have spoken to several.</p>
<p>Among the possible players: Silicon Valley venture firm Andreessen Horowitz, which is working with private equity firm Silver Lake, in a deal that also might include Russia&#8217;s DST Global and Yahoo&#8217;s Japanese partner Masa Son; former News Corp. exec Peter Chernin, who is partnered with Providence Equity Partners; and the possibility that Yahoo&#8217;s Chinese partner, Alibaba Group, might consider entering the fray in what could be a reverse merger of sorts.</p>
<p>Also being rung up by some of the parties: Microsoft &#8212; Yahoo&#8217;s advertising and search partner &#8212; which is being seen as a possibly moneybags in any deal.</p>
<p>The movement among these investors is against a backdrop of increasing pressure for Yahoo&#8217;s board, after it fired CEO <a href="http://allthingsd.com/tag/carol-bartz/">Carol Bartz</a> last week. In the wake of the dramatic move, shareholders have upped criticism of Bostock and the board and have been looking hard for alternatives.</p>
<p>Today, that included <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110913/as-yahoo-board-meets-tomorrow-investors-ready-thumbscrews/">hedge fund investor Daniel Loeb</a> of Third Point, which has a 5.1 percent stake in Yahoo. In a filing this morning, he said he might increase that amount, and described a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110914/dan-loeb-yahoo-chairman-hung-up-on-me/">testy hour-long phone call</a> he had earlier this week with Bostock that ended abruptly with a hang-up from Yahoo.</p>
<p>Sources said Loeb called Bostock a &#8220;fool,&#8221; among other not-so-nice names, on the call and asked for Yang&#8217;s help in dumping him.</p>
<p>This comes as exactly no surprise, given his previously strong letter in which Loeb called for Bostock&#8217;s ouster.</p>
<p>Loeb has been calling out Bostock &#8212; who is also on the boards of Morgan Stanley and Delta Airlines &#8212; for a series of gaffes at Yahoo since he became chairman in 2008 (he&#8217;s been on the board since 2003).</p>
<p>Those have included: Yahoo&#8217;s bungled effort to stave off a takeover by Microsoft several years ago; the too-long enthusiasm for Bartz, who was hired in early 2009 and fired last week; sitting unusually still as competitors such as Facebook, Google and more have out-innovated and outgrown Yahoo; and, of course, the falling knife of a stock, which has dropped precipitously since Bostock has been in charge of the board.</p>
<p>As Loeb <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110908/activist-yahoo-shareholder-takes-aim-at-board/">wrote in a letter</a> he sent to the company last week:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is time that certain members of this Board were held accountable for its past failures and their individual roles. Accordingly, we insist that Mr. Bostock, who championed Ms. Bartz&#8217;s hiring and led the charge against the Microsoft deal, promptly resign from the Board.&#8221;</p>
<p>Loeb is likely to add to that later today at a high-profile investor conference in New York, where the colorful but tough-talking investor is sure to add more logs to the fire.</p>
<p>But it not only him. Other major shareholders of Yahoo are also in touch with possible outside buyers, seeking a change at the long-troubled company, after its shares have remained in the doldrums, its attrition rate of employees has spiked and its product pipeline has slowed to drip.</p>
<p>This has all been taking place &#8212; of course &#8212; during one of tech biggest and most innovative booms, in which Yahoo competitors have grown strongly.</p>
<p>Enter Marc Andreessen, the well-known entrepreneur who has transformed himself into one of Silicon Valley&#8217;s most powerful venture capitalists.</p>
<p>He and his partner Ben Horowitz recently pulled off another similar deal &#8212; with Silver Lake &#8212; to take control of a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110510/done-deal-microsoft-to-buy-skype-for-8-5-billion-in-cash/">then-troubled Skype</a>. They later flipped it to Microsoft for a large return.</p>
<p>Sources familiar with the situation said the pair have become increasingly intrigued by the situation at Yahoo and believe that its assets and brand are still strong, despite its management turmoil in recent years.</p>
<p>One problem is the huge cost of almost any kind of takeover and also the complexity, given much of Yahoo&#8217;s $18.5 billion valuation is due to its Asian assets. </p>
<p>The sale of those shares, as well as the selling off of some of Yahoo&#8217;s less core properties, makes for a very complicated situation for anyone.</p>
<p>Said one person looking at the company: &#8220;It is one of the more massive hairballs around.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a common sentiment among many of those looking at Yahoo, which has hired Allen &#038; Co. to manage the process.</p>
<p>Also of worry is a bid that would include too many players. Yahoo has long been plagued by indecisiveness on the part of its execs and, mostly, its board.</p>
<p>But one thing all the possible buyers of Yahoo, as well as an increasing number of its shareholders, agree on: The Yahoo board needs a major shake-up.</p>
<p>As Loeb wrote last week, which many I interviewed also echoed: </p>
<p>&#8220;This letter details our principled demands for sweeping changes in both the Board of Directors (the &#8220;Board&#8221;) and Company leadership, and outlines the hidden value of Yahoo, which has been severely damaged &#8212; but not irreparably &#8212; by poor management and governance.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Yahoo's China Settlement Fails to Stem Its Stock Decline</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You would think the settlement of a major dispute would goose the stock of a company, but Yahoo's deal with its Chinese partner Alibaba Group on Friday did exactly the opposite.]]></description>
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<p>You would think the settlement of a major dispute would goose the stock of a company, but <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110729/liveblogging-the-yahoo-alibaba-settlement-call-everybody-breathe/">Yahoo&#8217;s deal with its Chinese partner Alibaba Group</a> on Friday did exactly the opposite.</p>
<p>Despite the clearing of an obvious overhang to its shares, the stock of the Silicon Valley Internet giant dropped almost three percent Friday to close at $13.10. While the ongoing federal budget wrangling was partly to blame, it was only a very small part with an overall market decline of under one percent.</p>
<p>A tepid reaction to the deal &#8212; in which Yahoo, Alibaba and Japan&#8217;s SoftBank came to terms over the spinoff of Alibaba&#8217;s Alipay payments unit after much wrangling over the move &#8212; came quickly from Wall Street analysts.</p>
<p>A report titled &#8220;Yahoo Inc: Alipay Agreement: Better than Nothing, But Not That Great,&#8221; by J.P. Morgan&#8217;s Doug Anmuth, was typical. Pointing to no clarity on an IPO of the Chinese assets of Alibaba and that &#8220;prior to the divestiture, Alibaba Group owned 100% of Alipay and all of its income, which is now reduced to 37.5% ownership of Alipay and 49.9% share of the pre-tax income,&#8221; he noted that Wall Street &#8220;has recently assigned no value to Yahoo!&#8217;s share of the asset.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, less than zero, if the stock decline is taken into account, which means Yahoo&#8217;s market cap is now just over $17 billion. </p>
<p>According to sources close to the situation, especially since <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/not-so-chart-tastic-picture-of-yahoos-2q-display-disaster/">Yahoo&#8217;s Asian assets make up more than $9 billion of that valuation</a>, private equity investors and others are pulling out their spreadsheets once again about a possible takeover or privatizing of Yahoo.</p>
<p>Several months ago, for example, former News Corp. exec <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20101117/enter-the-chernin-former-news-corp-president-and-coo-in-yahoo-what-if-mix/">Peter Chernin had been contemplating a friendly bid</a> with partners such as Providence Equity Partners and others. While there have been rumors recently that he has reengaged in that effort, that is unclear.</p>
<p>Sources also note that Yahoo&#8217;s top execs, especially CEO Carol Bartz, and also members of its board, are perplexed that the settlement in China &#8212; a positive development &#8212; had the opposite effect on the stock.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s part of a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/not-so-chart-tastic-picture-of-yahoos-2q-display-disaster/">continuing decline</a>. Yahoo shares are down almost 26 percent in the past three months. Most Web stocks &#8212; such as Google, Amazon and Microsoft &#8212; are strongly up in that period. The only other obvious laggard is AOL, which is down almost 16 percent in the past three months.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo-Alibaba-SoftBank Settlement Call: At Least It's Not 100 Percent of Zero!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As these companies are wont to do in the middle of the night, Yahoo, SoftBank and the Alibaba Group have reached an agreement in their nasty dispute around the Alipay payments unit, and they are ready to talk about it.]]></description>
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<p>As these companies are wont to do in the middle of the night, Yahoo, SoftBank and the Alibaba Group have <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110729/china-solution-yahoo-softbank-and-alibaba-reach-agreement/">reached an agreement</a> in their nasty dispute around the Alipay payments unit, and they are ready to talk about it.</p>
<p>Well, not Alibaba&#8217;s CEO Jack Ma (pictured here), Yahoo&#8217;s CEO Carol Bartz or SoftBank&#8217;s Masa Son, but their functionaries are all set to discuss the deal.</p>
<p>The issue has revolved around the spinning out of Alipay by the Chinese Internet giant Alibaba, without the approval of large stakeholders Yahoo and Japan&#8217;s SoftBank, which the pair felt was a big no-no.</p>
<p>Much mishegas followed, but the trio has been hard at work on a settlement, which is here now.</p>
<p>Of course, had the three companies cooperated in the first place as joint owners and board members of Alibaba, this all would have been unnecessary.</p>
<p><strong>5:48 am PT:</strong> The call starts without all kinds of regulatory info about what can and cannot be said, before being thrown to Yahoo CFO Tim Morse.</p>
<p>One interesting wrinkle is that SoftBank&#8217;s Ron Fisher cannot speak at all, due to some Japanese laws, which are unexplained. But, said Morse, he&#8217;s there to show his support.</p>
<p><em>Go, Ron!</em></p>
<p>Alibaba&#8217;s CFO Joe Tsai is up first to talk about the deal over Alipay, which he stresses does not really make much money now. As he says, it is &#8220;marginally profitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tsai walks through the facts that they have already outlined earlier today, including a variety of payments from Alipay to Alibaba, since &#8212; let&#8217;s be clear &#8212; it used to be part of Alibaba.</p>
<p>But Alibaba said it had to spin it out in order to get critical regulatory approvals from the Chinese government, which caused this mess. </p>
<p>Morse now comes on, noting the whole squabble really had &#8220;no direct impact&#8221; from a financial point of view on Yahoo or SoftBank at this time related to its Alibaba assets. </p>
<p>Well, shareholders of Yahoo might beg to differ, considering the huge hit the stock has taken due to the fight. Wall Street has long considered Yahoo&#8217;s Asian assets its most valuable part.</p>
<p>But Morse is pleased the complex agreement has finally been reached &#8212; I am guessing it was not easy to negotiate among three different countries with so much pressure. </p>
<p><strong>5:59 am:</strong> Time for Q&#038;A!</p>
<p>The first question is about more deets and also about the possibility of a liquidity event for Alibaba or its various units.</p>
<p>Tsai underscores that there might not be one or there might be one. In other words, the Chinese assets of Yahoo may or may not ever pay off.</p>
<p>The next question is about why Yahoo and SoftBank should have a cap on an asset they used to own 100 percent of. Good point!</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110729/liveblogging-the-yahoo-alibaba-settlement-call-everybody-breathe/imgres-2-9/" rel="attachment wp-att-104178"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/imgres-23.png" alt="" title="imgres-2" width="202" height="249" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-104178" /></a></p>
<p>Neither Morse or Tsai really answers the question, except for Tsai talking about how certain rules over foreign ownership of payment companies in China means it had to be like this.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you own 100 percent of the business that cannot operate, you own 100 percent of zero,&#8221; said Tsai. </p>
<p>Translation: That&#8217;s China, folks, so suck it up!</p>
<p>The next question is a promissory note, which Tsai says has value, even though it actually does not have value right now. <em>China!</em></p>
<p>The analysts still are stuck on this fact that, under terms of the agreement, Yahoo will only get 37.5 percent of an IPO or other liquidity event, when it used to be owner of 100 percent of Alipay.</p>
<p>Good point: Will this happen to other Alibaba units, such as its Taobao commerce unit?</p>
<p>China is a good place to be, assures Tsai, which is cold comfort right now.</p>
<p>A lot of swirl around preferential terms in the deal for Alipay with Alibaba&#8217;s units, which seem to be the same as before. In other words, nothing has changed, except a lot of stock loss for Yahoo and less technical ownership of Alipay.</p>
<p>The Wall Street analysts on the line continue to be riveted to the idea of a liquidity event for Alipay and other Alibaba units, especially Taobao, and keep asking different versions of this question. </p>
<p>The last question is about more deets of the deal and new business ideas for Alibaba.</p>
<p>Tsai talks about a cloud-based system rolling out, for example. </p>
<p>The questioner moves to, you guessed it, a liquidity event.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think we want to get into it at this point,&#8221; says Tsai.</p>
<p>Well, we do, but apparently Yahoo shareholders are not going to. </p>
<p>That said, the deal is finally settled, which has already given Yahoo shares a small bump today. And that&#8217;s not nothing.</p>
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		<title>Who's to Blame for Yahoo's Q2 Revenue Rout? The Line Forms Around Back&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happened to Yahoo revenue? Display sales in the U.S. gets the blame this quarter.

While coming up with a new thing to blame for Q3, Yahoo execs try to explain it all for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-call-whos-to-blame-for-the-revenue-rout/images-6/" rel="attachment wp-att-100103"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/images5.png" alt="" title="images" width="259" height="194" class="alignright size-full wp-image-100103" /></a></p>
<p>Yahoo turned in another <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/yahoo-revenues-down-again-in-2q-and-microsoft-search-deal-gets-blame/">weak performance in the second quarter</a>, with yet another decline in revenue. </p>
<p>This time it was five percent, compared to last quarter&#8217;s six percent. In other words, at least things are looking up as they go down!</p>
<p>While earnings per share rose smartly, Wall Street is still looking for strong sales growth from the Silicon Valley Internet giant, which seems unable to provide it.</p>
<p>Blamed most this time for the revenue fall: Yahoo&#8217;s changes in its display sales operations in the key Americas region, reasons for which were largely unspecified in the initial company press release. (You can see the damage in this <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/not-so-chart-tastic-picture-of-yahoos-2q-display-disaster/">slide deck from the company here</a>.)</p>
<p>Maybe Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz will explain it all in its upcoming conference call with analysts (or she could try the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/liveblogging-murdoch-son-at-phonegate-hearing-a-lion-in-winter/">I-don&#8217;t-know approach taken by News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch</a> in PhoneGate hearings in Britain earlier today!).</p>
<p><strong>2 pm PT:</strong> It starts with the usual regulatory blah-blah, which I always enjoy.</p>
<p>Bartz gets right into it, opening with the key <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110714/the-good-the-bad-and-the-time-consuming-yahoo-pushes-to-settle-alibaba-dispute-before-earnings-but-dont-hold-your-breath/">problems with China&#8217;s Alibaba Group</a>, as well as its display and search revenue weaknesses.</p>
<p>The fight with Alibaba is over its Alipay payments unit, which was spun out of the Chinese company without Yahoo&#8217;s say-so. Yahoo is a big shareholder.</p>
<p>Bartz says that the company was working on a settlement night and day.</p>
<p>But she quickly gets onto how display did not perform as expected in its key Americas arena. &#8220;Obviously, I am not happy,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-call-whos-to-blame-for-the-revenue-rout/unknown-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-100200"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/Unknown1.png" alt="" title="Unknown" width="215" height="234" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-100200" /></a></p>
<p><em>Obvi!</em> Neither are shareholders, Carol.</p>
<p>She says it was not about new competitive development. It was not about the economy. It was not about engagement. </p>
<p>So what <em>was</em> it? Changes in its sales leadership and organization, says Bartz, which has included talent walking out the door in droves.</p>
<p>A lot more than Yahoo expected, but no surprise to anyone who has been paying any attention to the brain drain at the company.</p>
<p>Bartz promises a new approach to sales, part of its endless turnaround, which is beginning to feel like a digital version of &#8220;Waiting for Godot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Search revenue, though, says Bartz, was better than expected.</p>
<p><strong>2:11 pm:</strong> CFO Tim Morse is on now, running through the numbers and the display shortfall in the Americas region. </p>
<p>&#8220;We simply did not have appropriate coverage,&#8221; says Morse, noting consumer products, tech and autos as weak spots in the advertising market.</p>
<p>Thank goodness, then, for the guarantees from search revenue in the Microsoft partnership deal. </p>
<p>More numbers and then it is back to Bartz to talk about search, which is going better than the last quarter, when it was the culprit for the revenue decline.</p>
<p>She says that Microsoft and Yahoo were working together to improve the issues.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;d like to be further down the road,&#8221; says Bartz about the goal of search revenue per search growth, as well as settling all the other problems, such as the Asian issues. </p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-call-whos-to-blame-for-the-revenue-rout/images-8/" rel="attachment wp-att-100205"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/images7.png" alt="" title="images" width="223" height="156" class="alignright size-full wp-image-100205" /></a></p>
<p>And, by further, I am presuming she means actual forward movement, which is what roads are actually for.</p>
<p><strong>2:27 pm:</strong> Q&#038;A time, the part of our program where Wall Street analysts do not ask the questions that need asking (and where I win fancy journalism awards for pointing this delta out!).</p>
<p>Therefore, Bartz is first thanked for providing &#8220;color&#8221; about the display disaster and is not asked about more specifics of the disaster itself.</p>
<p>The second question still does not get to it either, but she does note Yahoo&#8217;s sales force has to sell beyond &#8220;Gee, we&#8217;re big&#8221; and come up with better ad solutions.</p>
<p>&#8220;The issue is we did not have enough sales people in front of the big clients,&#8221; says Bartz. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s because all those former Yahoos are now working at Groupon, LivingSocial, Facebook and on down the line and now in front of big clients for those hotter companies.</p>
<p><strong>2:34 pm:</strong> Question about its Asian assets. Yahoo&#8217;s talks with Yahoo! Japan and Alibaba are separate, says Bartz, although I would add that they have non-movement in common. </p>
<p>And also a question about <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110718/with-yet-another-flat-quarter-expected-does-yahoo-need-a-hail-mary-hulu-acquisition/">Yahoo&#8217;s interest in the acquisition</a> of the Hulu premium online video service.</p>
<p>Bartz winks verbally and says nothing, which translates into: Of course, it is interested.</p>
<p>More on the reasons for the display fall-off, which Bartz makes clear is not due to big competitive threats, but internal issues. </p>
<p>Maybe she&#8217;s saving big competitive threats as the reason for a revenue decline in the third quarter!</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-call-whos-to-blame-for-the-revenue-rout/unknown-3/" rel="attachment wp-att-100212"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/Unknown2.png" alt="" title="Unknown" width="194" height="260" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-100212" /></a></p>
<p>I look forward to the quarter I get the finger pointed at me for causing revenue to fall, due to my snarky posts. </p>
<p>Now, we are into softball questions about improvements in engagement. It&#8217;s up, but no one asks why Yahoo is still not doing anything very cutting edge in product innovation compared to competitors.</p>
<p>I believe Google has <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110715/by-the-numbers-google-the-biggest-social-network-launch-ever/">launched at least 14 new social networks</a> since this Sunday, along with its <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110714/google-beats-q2-expectations/">strong quarterly performance</a> last week. And Apple, well, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/monster-earnings-from-apple/">blew away its quarter today</a> as it is about to <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110714/new-macbook-airs-coming-next-week-not-this-week/">release more cool new stuff</a> later this week.</p>
<p>And that might be the crux of the issue for Yahoo, which might not solve its woes by throwing a more focused sales army at the issue.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because Yahoo&#8217;s products are simply not nearly has social as Facebook or even Google right now, which might be the true problem as old customers move on to new advertising solutions.</p>
<p>Whatever the reason, Yahoo clearly needs a refresh of its ad products and how it sells them, especially in its fast-growing mobile, video and communications products.</p>
<p>Bartz talks about getting better expertise, a tighter regional focus and other issues of going to market, which is perhaps something she might have realized many, many quarters ago. </p>
<p>After all, she&#8217;s been in charge for a while, and these issues are not new. </p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110719/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-call-whos-to-blame-for-the-revenue-rout/images-1-3/" rel="attachment wp-att-100213"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/images-12.png" alt="" title="images-1" width="284" height="177" class="alignright size-full wp-image-100213" /></a></p>
<p>In fact, in an earlier quarter, Bartz was <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110420/yahoos-focuses-on-tentpole-events-with-new-head/">stressing &#8220;tentpole&#8221; events</a> and anchor media properties and the power of the size of Yahoo as a selling point. </p>
<p>This <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110419/yahoos-first-quarter-earnings-the-revenue-drought-continues-due-to-search-fall-off/">was in April</a>, in fact, in the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110419/liveblogging-yahoos-1q-earnings-call-get-me-to-funky-town/">first quarter of this year</a>.</p>
<p>As I wrote then: </p>
<p>&#8220;CEO Carol Bartz excited was the Silicon Valley Internet giant&#8217;s traffic gusher for big tentpole events such as the Super Bowl and the Oscars. In fact, Bartz practically sounded like a gushy &#8220;Entertainment Tonight&#8221; flunky when talking to Wall Street analysts about Yahoo&#8217;s Oscar news, games and other offerings. She proudly noted the site&#8217;s efforts generated more than a billion pages views.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now big is out! <em>Moving on!</em></p>
<p>The last question is another about Yahoo&#8217;s talks with its Asian partners.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s complex,&#8221; says Bartz.</p>
<p>You can say that again.</p>
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		<title>Another One Bites the Dust: Yahoo Shares Dip as Einhorn Sells Off Stake</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It all started off so well.

But not for long, in the case of David Einhorn's high-profile hedge fund Greenlight Capital, which today dumped an investment it made earlier this year in Yahoo on high hopes of the value of the Internet giant's stake in China's Alibaba Group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all started off so well.</p>
<p>But it didn&#8217;t go on for long in the case of David Einhorn&#8217;s high-profile hedge fund Greenlight Capital, which today dumped an investment it made earlier this year in Yahoo on high hopes of the value of the Internet giant&#8217;s stake in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group.</p>
<p>That was before the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110515/alibaba-and-yahoo-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along/">ugly public fight Yahoo got into with Alibaba</a> over its Alipay payment unit and especially with its voluble CEO Jack Ma.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110708/yahoo-shares-dip-as-einhorn-sells-off-stake/imgres-19/" rel="attachment wp-att-95866"><img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/07/imgres.png" alt="" title="imgres" width="197" height="256" class="alignright size-full wp-image-95866" /></a></p>
<p>In a letter to investors, Einhorn (pictured right) said the kerfuffle, which has hit Yahoo&#8217;s stock hard, &#8220;wasn&#8217;t what we signed up for.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/tag/yahoo/">Yahoo</a> shares are down just below two percent today and are now at $15.52 each.</p>
<p>Einhorn said in the letter that his fund had &#8220;a modest loss&#8221; in Yahoo, which sources said was about $20 million.</p>
<p>Einhorn had bought less than .65 percent of Yahoo, or about 8.5 million shares in March, which he said was due to his feeling that the company was undervalued with regard to its Asian assets.</p>
<p>Said Einhorn at the time: &#8220;We would not be surprised if YHOO&#8217;s 40 percent stake in Alibaba Group alone was ultimately worth YHOO&#8217;s entire current market value.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fast forward to today:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Partnership bought Yahoo! (YHOO) earlier this year based on a sum of the parts analysis, which included putting substantial value on its Chinese assets. Shortly after the purchase, the value of the Chinese assets came into doubt as the CEO of the Chinese unit hived-off a valuable subsidiary into a corporation that he personally controls. From there, the finger pointing started in every direction. This wasn&#8217;t what we signed up for. We exited with a modest loss.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the full Einhorn letter, which appeared on <a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/article/greenlight-dumps-recently-purchased-yahoo-stake">zerohedge.com</a>:</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Addresses Alipay Mess: Forget It, Shareholders&#8211;It&#039;s China.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 07:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You're a very annoying partner for Alibaba, Yahoo. Huh? You know what happens to annoying partners in China? Huh? No? Wanna guess? Huh? No? Okay. They lose their Alipays.]]></description>
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<p>Back in April of 2009, like all the rest of the parts of the Chinese Internet giant Alibaba Group, <a href="http://replay.web.archive.org/20090417202316/http://news.alibaba.com/specials/aboutalibaba/aligroup/index.html">its Alipay unit was listed</a> this way on its Web site: &#8220;Alipay is wholly owned by Alibaba Group.&#8221;</p>
<p>And right now, <a href="http://news.alibaba.com/specials/aboutalibaba/aligroup/index.html">describing the online payments platform</a>? (my italics): &#8220;Alipay is an <em>affiliate</em> of Alibaba Group.&#8221;</p>
<p>Memo to Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz: You might have noticed that critical change in Alipay&#8217;s corporate status, which happened last August, given the company you lead owns 43 percent of the Alibaba Group.</p>
<p>More to the point, Alipay accounted for $1.7 billion of Yahoo&#8217;s valuation.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, Yahoo shares are down more than six percent in after-hours trading, likely in reaction to an unusual statement by Yahoo yesterday, in which the company said it had no idea until March 31 that Alibaba CEO Jack Ma had transferred ownership of the Alipay unit to a separate entity.</p>
<p>Sources said that apparently happened in a letter from Alibaba to Yahoo&#8217;s accounting department. Since then, the company said it has been trying to figure it all out.</p>
<p>Said Yahoo:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>On March 31, 2011, Yahoo! and Softbank were notified by Alibaba Group of two transactions that occurred without the knowledge or approval of the Alibaba Group board of directors or shareholders. The first was the transfer of ownership of Alipay in August 2010. The second was the deconsolidation of Alipay effective in the first quarter of 2011.</p>
<p>Yahoo! disclosed this restructuring in its 10-Q after discussions with Alibaba Group and obtaining a better understanding of this complex situation.</p>
<p>Yahoo! continues to work closely with Alibaba and Softbank to protect economic value for all interested parties. We believe ongoing negotiations among all of the parties provide the best opportunity to achieve an outcome in the best interest of all stakeholders.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation: Alibaba&#8217;s Ma&#8211;who cites upcoming new rules about foreign ownership from People&#8217;s Bank of China related to operating its payment business&#8211;just snookered us and we need to play dumb until we decide whether a lawsuit will be one disaster too many for our much-beleaguered investors.</p>
<p>Really pissed off shareholders is more like it&#8211;BoomTown has been on the receiving end of an explosive series of calls from Yahoo&#8217;s investors today asking a variety of questions.</p>
<p>They include:</p>
<p><strong>1.</strong> How could Alibaba have reported its results with Alipay consolidated in, even though it was a separate entity since last year? And does that spell trouble for Yahoo, since it used those numbers in its own regulatory filings in the U.S.?</p>
<p><strong>2.</strong> How could Ma initiate such a transaction without approval from shareholders and its board, as Yahoo claims?</p>
<p><strong>3.</strong> In any case, why weren&#8217;t Yahoo execs paying more attention to the swirling changes related to foreign ownership in China, especially since Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang is on the Alibaba board, anticipating that there could be real problems ahead?</p>
<p><strong>4.</strong> Why did Yahoo execs not tell shareholders about the situation immediately or even at its April earnings call? Or perhaps before David Einhorn&#8217;s hedge fund Greenlight Capital hedge fund took a big position in Yahoo last week, specifically noting the value of the company&#8217;s Asian assets as highly attractive.</p>
<p><strong>5.</strong> Does this move mean that those pretty Chinese assets Yahoo has touted are not so pretty after all, given that these kinds of things can happen there?</p>
<p><strong>6.</strong> Should U.S. investors remove themselves from that Chinese market, given that these kinds of things can happen there?</p>
<p><strong>7.</strong> Is Bartz&#8217;s extraordinarily tense personal relationship with Ma a big part of the problem, creating a distasteful public feud over issues better left to quiet backroom negotiations?</p>
<p>There will be plenty more, of course, especially around Yahoo&#8217;s disclosures to investors.</p>
<p>Yahoo execs will argue that it did disclose in the proper manner from a filing point of view and that it did not reveal the fissure so as not to put its negotiations with Alibaba over the situation at risk.</p>
<p>But&#8211;especially given the myriad of continued missteps by Bartz that have worked investors&#8217; last nerve&#8211;that probably is not going to fly.</p>
<p>In fact, that irked sentiment will surely be on display at Yahoo&#8217;s upcoming investor day on May 25.</p>
<p>Yahoo had hoped to show off its new team of execs and talk about some legitimate momentum the company is making.</p>
<p>Now, it will doubtlessly all be about China and what happened there.</p>
<p>So, Bartz has to have a better line than a take on a Hollywood classic: &#8220;Forget it, Wall Street. It&#8217;s China.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so, but it&#8217;s her problem to solve now.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s my favorite version of that line:</p>
<p><object width="380" height="313"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_98fDQM0sAo?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_98fDQM0sAo?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="380" height="313" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
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		<title>Demand CEO Richard Rosenblatt Talks Panda</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 13:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, after he turned in better-than-expected earnings and tried to explain to a worried Wall Street how the search algorithm changes at Google, called Panda, were significant but not devastating to his business, BoomTown had a short phone interview with Demand Media CEO Richard Rosenblatt.]]></description>
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<p>Last week, after he turned in better-than-expected earnings and tried to explain to a worried Wall Street how the search algorithm changes at Google, called Panda, were significant but not devastating to his business, BoomTown had a short phone interview with Demand Media CEO Richard Rosenblatt.</p>
<p>To ask even more questions about Panda! <em>Grrrrr&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Actually, Rosenblatt was as cordial as ever about what is a hair-pullingly critical issue for his newly public company, which has really been under investor and other scrutiny from the get-go about the way it handles content.</p>
<p>Which is to say very much differently than traditional media companies had done in the past, with an eye on how to optimize traffic and advertising revenue by using tech to know exactly how much each piece of content online is actually worth and how much it should cost.</p>
<p>Them&#8217;s been fighting words for a while, with accusations by detractors of Demand&#8217;s system that it is little more than a &#8220;content farm,&#8221; producing poor quality fare.</p>
<p>Rosenblatt has battled that charge all the way through a lucrative IPO, but the company definitely got caught in the Panda maelstrom, as Google has tried to cull out bad results (and make itself look better, it must be said).</p>
<p>This has put Demand in an awkward position&#8211;trying to minimize the damage, real and perceived, created by the changes, and also making sure Google does not become even more aggressive by tut-tutting those changes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a delicate dance for Rosenblatt, as you will see from my handful of questions (especially since Demand&#8217;s stock has been badly hit):</p>
<p><strong>Q: What were you trying to communicate in the call, especially since investors seemed very focused on Panda? </strong></p>
<p><em>A: I was trying in the simplest way to explain the way we figure the relationship of how much traffic to ROI (return on investment) and RPM (revenue per 1,000 impressions).</p>
<p>I think the best way to assuage the worries is to just keep on growing our business and traffic.</p>
<p>What I also wanted to show was that third-party data sources should not be relied on.</p>
<p>We did get affected, for sure. But I was not just being optimistic, we wanted to use that to really understand what we can do better.</p>
<p>We really need these kind of signals to shake things up.</em></p>
<p><strong>Explain what you are doing to improve quality&#8211;does that mean longer articles or paying more for content to get better stuff?</strong></p>
<p><em>A: There are some topics that do not deserve more than 500 words, and some deserve more.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re not going to make content that is expensive just because, except maybe for marketing purposes. It has to make financial sense at the scale of our current business.</p>
<p>We would spend more on a post on &#8220;How to Build a Deck,&#8221; for example, if Home Depot were interested in sponsoring that content.</em></p>
<p><strong>Q: Given Google&#8217;s shift in its algorithm, are you shifting your distribution, such as toward social and mobile?</strong></p>
<p><em>A: If you look at where trends are going, that&#8217;s where we are going to be.</p>
<p>Everything is shifting quickly to mobile and social and we will shift in the same way.</p>
<p>It used to be there were not a lot of places to make content for, and now we have a lot more choices.</p>
<p>If you are out there with our data and our assets, you change as the market changes.</em></p>
<p><strong>Q: How are you changing the continued perception that Demand is a content farm?</strong></p>
<p><em>A: I don&#8217;t think anyone has defined what a content farm is and I am not sure what it means either.</p>
<p>We obviously don&#8217;t think we are a content farm and I am not sure we can counter every impact if some people think we are.</p>
<p>The only way we are going to do that is continued growth in revenue and showing that we are doing this for the longterm.</em></p>
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		<title>Will Yahoo Be In Play Again? Here&#039;s a Few Scenarios (That Could Be More Than Just Scenarios)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the results of Yahoo's weak earnings report earlier this week has been the renewal of chatter about possible changes in its leadership and even ownership.

And continued investor discomfort with its troubled stock price and the level of renewed grumbling by major institutional shareholders is causing some key players to go back to their PowerPoints to reevaluate various options.]]></description>
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<p>One of the results of Yahoo&#8217;s <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110419/yahoos-first-quarter-earnings-the-revenue-drought-continues-due-to-search-fall-off/">weak earnings report</a> earlier this week has been the renewal of chatter about possible changes in its leadership and even ownership.</p>
<p>And continued investor discomfort with its troubled stock price&#8211;Yahoo shares are down 7.25 percent year over year and an astonishing 49 percent on a five-year basis&#8211;and the level of renewed grumbling by major institutional shareholders is causing some key players to go back to their PowerPoints to reevaluate various options.</p>
<p>(By way of contrast, Google is down about 4.5 percent year over year&#8211;largely due to last week&#8217;s earnings release with higher than expected expenses&#8211;but still up more than 20 percent for the five years.)</p>
<p>As many might recall, last year Yahoo was under scrutiny by a number of interested parties&#8211;from big media companies to other digital players to private equity firms&#8211;considering a <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100930/could-aol-buy-yahoo-could-news-corp-takeover-2-0-with-a-little-help-from-the-chinas-alibaba">number of takeover scenarios</a>.</p>
<p>Most of them were just talk and no action resulted, but that did not mean that interest went away.</p>
<p>The truth is, they are still out there and ruminating&#8211;this time with what sources describe as a much more amenable Yahoo board, with several of its key members willing to entertain any legitimate offers or ideas to improve the Silicon Valley search giant&#8217;s prospects.</p>
<p>In the last go-round, by contrast, Yahoo&#8217;s top execs&#8211;including CEO Carol Bartz&#8211;denied any interest in the swirl of rumors related to a variety of ideas.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s definitely changed&#8211;at least at the board level&#8211;so here are three very credible scenarios of what could happen:</p>
<p><strong>Peetie, Peetie, Yahoo-Sweetie</strong></p>
<p>Late last year, BoomTown wrote a post about the interest that former News Corp. COO and President Peter Chernin&#8211;who now owns his own entertainment production company&#8211;had in the situation at Yahoo.</p>
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<p>As I <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20101117/enter-the-chernin-former-news-corp-president-and-coo-in-yahoo-what-if-mix">wrote in November</a>:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>But multiple sources from a variety of sides said that Chernin, a well-liked and deeply experienced media and entertainment exec, has been contacted by a number of private equity firms and other investors about his interest in becoming involved should any of the various and sundry scenarios around the Internet giant pan out.</p>
<p>And Chernin, many sources said, has expressed a definite interest in the situation, perhaps because he was deeply involved in a previous deal when running News Corp.</p>
<p>At the time, it involved combining the media giant&#8217;s Myspace social networking site with Yahoo and also Microsoft&#8217;s portal MSN and creating a new company, code-named &#8220;TrafficCo.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, that interest remains for Chernin, who has also been an increasingly active investor, including in the digital sector. He is an angel funder of the hot social media app start-up Flipboard, and also just joined the board of the popular Pandora music service.</p>
<p>The most likely possible scenarios have him joining with deep-pocketed partners, including Providence Equity Partners and, yes, Microsoft, as well as investment banks or advisory firms, such as Morgan Stanley and Code Advisors.</p>
<p>The approach being considered&#8211;which would only be done in a friendly way, with the cooperation of Yahoo&#8217;s board&#8211;would center on making a large enough investment in its shares, allowing the group to take control of the management and the board, putting Chernin in as chairman and maybe CEO (or with a new CEO&#8211;see next section).</p>
<p>If Microsoft were involved&#8211;and Chernin has strong ties there&#8211;such a scenario might include folding all its online properties into Yahoo and renegotiating its rocky search partnership, too.</p>
<p>This is an idea that intrigues a lot of people&#8211;including current Yahoo board chairman Roy Bostock, co-founder Jerry Yang and other board members&#8211;who have indicated recently to several investors and dealmakers a willingness to listen to credible player such as Chernin.</p>
<p>But, in this scenario, it would be up to Chernin and his partners to make a prosposal, said sources, and he might decide that the complexity of getting the power to make big changes at Yahoo is too big to tackle.</p>
<p>In addition, Chernin remains a successful Hollywood player, with several major television and movie projects in the works, as well as big investment possibilities in Asia.</p>
<p>&#8220;Does he want the headache of Yahoo at this point in his career?&#8221; asked one person, among many Chernin has talked to recently about becoming involved in the company. &#8220;Would you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so, if it would provide a big financial windfall. Many think an exec with a reputation like Chernin&#8217;s could easily begin to move Yahoo&#8217;s moribund stock upward quickly.</p>
<p><strong>ABC (Anybody But Carol)</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one truth: Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz does not get proper credit for a number of moves she has made since coming to the company two years ago, including cleaning up the messy corporate structure, de-complexifying garbled systems, cutting costs and bringing its far-flung operations into line.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/547702043_HQzHZ-M-1.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/547702043_HQzHZ-M-1-199x300.jpg" alt="" title="547702043_HQzHZ-M-1" width="199" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-43021" /></a></p>
<p>Yahoo&#8217;s stock is certainly doing better than when she arrived in early January of 2009, when it was in the $12 range compared to its current $16 price point.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s another: That stock price now includes more than $10 in solid assets&#8211;cash and Yahoo&#8217;s much more valuable stakes in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group and Yahoo! Japan&#8211;leaving very little true share appreciation.</p>
<p>And here are more truths: Bartz&#8217;s inability to get revenues growing, innovations flowing, promising start-ups acquired and&#8211;most importantly&#8211;to stop the continual exodus of talent out the door of Yahoo has made her tenure shakier than ever.</p>
<p>Add to that making its relationships with Asian partners more tense, almost no traction in key mobile, video and social arenas, a record of loud public declarations that have fallen flat and serious troubles in Yahoo&#8217;s search and online partnership with Microsoft&#8211;a deal Bartz struck and is charged with managing&#8211;recently highlighted in Yahoo&#8217;s earnings earlier this week.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/ericjackson/2011/04/20/to-unlock-yahoos-value-bartz-should-take-a-hike/">shareholder activist Eric Jackson</a>, who has long agitated for change at Yahoo, wrote this week in a post:</p>
<p>&#8220;The truth is that investors are fed up with Bartz. Their enmity towards Bartz is palpable when you talk to them. Bartz talked a big game coming into the job and she hasn&#8217;t delivered. It&#8217;s that simple.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, not that simple and maybe not fair, but it&#8217;s also clear that no one thinks Bartz will be re-upped when her contract is up in 18 months.</p>
<p>Thus, it&#8217;s no surprise that ideas of other possible leaders of Yahoo are being contemplated now.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short list I have made of my choices: Akamai President and Yahoo board member <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110204/exclusive-huffpos-eric-hippeau-stepping-down-from-yahoo-board-as-akamais-david-kenny-steps-in">David Kenny</a>; former Microsoft exec and current Juniper Networks CEO Kevin Johnson; former AOL CEO and current News Corp. digital head Jon Miller; and Nikesh Arora, current Chief Business Officer and sales head at Google.</p>
<p>There are plenty more to pick from, of course, and any could be installed in conjunction with an effort such as Chernin&#8217;s.</p>
<p><strong>AOL Under the Hoop</strong></p>
<p>No good Yahoo scenario plotting can be contemplated without including AOL and its flashy CEO Tim Armstrong.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/888733886_4oHvJ-M.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/888733886_4oHvJ-M-200x300.jpg" alt="" title="888733886_4oHvJ-M" width="200" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-43022" /></a></p>
<p>Armstrong has made no secret of wanting to get ahold of Yahoo properties to apply the strategy he has been trying at AOL to get it moving again.</p>
<p>Which is: To become the premiere digital media company.</p>
<p>Which is actually Yahoo&#8217;s new motto&#8211;although arguably, in word and deed, Armstrong has been much more active in pushing the concept and narrative.</p>
<p>That includes his incessant acquisitions of all kinds of online media properties, including the big fish&#8211;the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110206/youve-got-arianna-aol-buys-huffington-post-for-315-million-in-cash/">$315 million purchase of the Huffington Post</a> and the coronation of its even-flashier co-founder Arianna Huffington as content chief.</p>
<p>Armstrong has certainly not been averse to the idea of a Yahoo-AOL hookup with him at the top, and has been actively talking to anyone interested in such a deal.</p>
<p>And things could get a lot more interesting if AOL linked with a bigger strategic partner, such as News Corp. or Disney or even Google, Armstrong&#8217;s former stomping grounds.</p>
<p>Still, wishing does not make it so, especially with a much smaller and weaker set of assets than Yahoo and a still poor record on goosing its advertising sales.</p>
<p>AOL&#8217;s stock is down 30 percent year over year, as investors still worry about Armstrong&#8217;s ability to turn the company around, which kind of puts him in the same situation as Bartz.</p>
<p>&#8220;AOL is waiting under the hoop for whatever happens, which is a good place to be,&#8221; said one person close to the situation. &#8220;Why not?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not, indeed&#8211;so, let the games begin.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Bored Meeting? Not This Time!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today and tomorrow, Yahoo's directors are gathering here in Silicon Valley for one of their regular meetings that take place over the course of the year.

While board meetings in general are usually pretty dull affairs--and Yahoo's, in particular, are typically glacial ones--there is a lot on the plates of those with purview over the machinations of the long-struggling Silicon Valley Internet giant.]]></description>
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<p>Today and tomorrow, Yahoo&#8217;s directors are gathering here in Silicon Valley for one of their regular meetings that take place over the course of the year.</p>
<p>While board meetings in general are usually pretty dull affairs&#8211;and Yahoo&#8217;s, in particular, are typically glacial ones&#8211;there is a lot on the plates of those with purview over the machinations of the long-struggling Silicon Valley Internet giant.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a primer of what might (and might <em>not</em>) be happening, according to sources, of course, as Yahoo continues on its quest to reinvigorate itself&#8211;a journey that is beginning to make Siddhartha&#8217;s transformation into Buddha enlightenment look speedy.</p>
<p>A Yahoo spokeswoman declined to comment on anything below, although I did run it all by them.</p>
<p><strong>The U-Shaped Turnaround</strong></p>
<p>At Yahoo&#8217;s recent sales meeting in San Antonio, CEO Carol Bartz went all Sesame Street on the troops, using the letter &#8220;U&#8221; as an illustration to indicate where in the cycle the company was in its turnaround.</p>
<p>Apparently, just on the other side of the very bottom of the letter, heading inevitably upward.</p>
<p>Her argument was that the company has finally cleaned up its platform mess and its confusing corporate structure, and that its display and search advertising business is now recovering nicely.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/imgres-1.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/imgres-1.jpeg" alt="" title="imgres-1" width="177" height="146" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-42589" /></a></p>
<p>All true, except there are some other key issues, such as the slowness of the search and online advertising partnership with Microsoft to make some serious hay.</p>
<p>In fact, although its display business will show a definite strong recovery in Yahoo&#8217;s quarterly results next week, its search business&#8211;both in market share and revenue per search (RPS)&#8211;has, as one person close to the situation put it succintly, &#8220;fallen off the cliff.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s due, in part, to getting the new system with Microsoft delivering better results, which is not happening yet (if ever!).</p>
<p>In this quarter, Microsoft has honored its contractual guarantees and will make up the difference&#8211;which will result in masking the magnitude of the RPS loss. It&#8217;s a worrisome trend to watch.</p>
<p><strong>The Asia Situation</strong></p>
<p>Yahoo and its Asian partners are still mulling over various options regarding the company&#8217;s large ownership stakes there.</p>
<p>What is happening with its share in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group, according to sources, is precisely nothing right now, as has been made clear in recent comments by its CEO and co-founder Jack Ma.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you cannot make the business cool, you have no right to be angry with me,&#8221; said Ma in an <a href="http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0411/features-jack-ma-alibaba-e-commerce-scandal-face-of-china.html">article in Forbes</a> published this week, referring to Yahoo. &#8220;I just don&#8217;t trust them&#8230;I&#8217;ve been working with them for years, and I&#8217;m disappointed.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/maps.gif"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/maps.gif" alt="" title="maps" width="270" height="185" class="alignright size-full wp-image-42591" /></a></p>
<p>Relations between Ma and Bartz, sources said, remain as bad as ever, and even the normally close one between Ma and Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang is strained.</p>
<p>Plus, Ma told Forbes, as he has said before, Alibaba is not taking its auction site, Taobao, public&#8211;leaving Yahoo in possession of an appreciating but decidedly private asset.</p>
<p>Japan is a different story, with the disposition of Yahoo&#8217;s stake in Yahoo! Japan the subject of long and continuing negotiations for a while now.</p>
<p>While the earthquake and tsunami crisis there did slow discussions down, there is still active recent movement about a variety of cashing-out scenarios, all of which have massive tax and regulatory issues.</p>
<p>Without boring you with the specifics, one option is to create a tracking stock, another a spin-off of the asset and still another some sort of stock trade.</p>
<p>But no matter what happens, Yahoo will have to pay some sort of taxes on its 35 percent stake in Yahoo! Japan, now worth $8 billion.</p>
<p>But if its CFO Tim Morse&#8211;the key figure working on the deal&#8211;can pull it off, what will Yahoo do with all that money?</p>
<p><strong>Acquisition Guns Blazing? Or Sputtering?</strong></p>
<p>In a recent forum in Silicon Valley, one of its M&#038;A minions said Yahoo had its &#8220;guns blazing&#8221; with regard to acquisition activity in 2011, as <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/03/28/yahoo-exec-acquisitions-coming-youtube-price-still-crazy/">deliciously reported in The Wall Street Journal</a>, despite the company&#8217;s lackluster acquisition record.</p>
<p>Sources said the exec had his ears soundly boxed by his managers for the dopey remarks, since Yahoo has had such a lackluster record in the arena&#8211;especially compared to others.</p>
<p>And, oh yes, <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110407/exclusive-yahoo-loses-ma-head-to-zynga">Yahoo&#8217;s M&#038;A head just decamped to gaming phenom Zynga</a>.</p>
<p>That aside, Yahoo should be deep in the market for hot start-ups to help revive its innovative spirit, but it remains hindered by a continued reluctance by new start-ups to join it and by its reputation for being a place where entrepreneurs go to die.</p>
<p>That certainly could change at any time with the right execs in place, but Yahoo is competing with a plethora of more exciting companies and also a seemingly endless venture capital gusher of cash of late.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/imgres-2.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/04/imgres-2.jpeg" alt="" title="imgres-2" width="225" height="225" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-42593" /></a></p>
<p>While it is the board&#8217;s job to approve acquisitions and not source them, perhaps it is its job to pressure Bartz and other execs to get off the stick and hit at least one of the targets Yahoo aims at.</p>
<p>Targets are plentiful in advertising, content and even social, with many start-ups playing right into a lot of arenas Yahoo needs some help.</p>
<p>And help it does need as talent keeps walking out the door daily, mostly to hotter prospects such as Zynga and social buying sites Groupon and LivingSocial.</p>
<p>There is no question it is hard for any large company to hold onto top staff when there are so many enticing bonbons out there as options, but it can be done.</p>
<p>One good thing: Its newish head of product Blake Irving and head of U.S. media and advertising Ross Levinsohn seem to be playing well together and are setting a tone of stability that is much needed.</p>
<p><strong>Enter the Kenny</strong></p>
<p>That said, there remains endless swirl, especially with key investors, about the performance of its CEO.</p>
<p>While she started off as a publicly in-your-face exec, Bartz has definitely stepped out of the limelight of late, as her pugnacious manner started to irritate Wall Street and others.</p>
<p>It was a good idea, since it has taken the focus off the lack of stock and revenue progress she had loudly promised.</p>
<p>Still, Yahoo shares have continued to stay locked in the mid-teens, as investors wait for some sign that Bartz&#8217;s turnaround has worked.</p>
<p>The entrance of its <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110204/exclusive-huffpos-eric-hippeau-stepping-down-from-yahoo-board-as-akamais-david-kenny-steps-in">spanking new director, Akamai President David Kenny</a>, has further increased speculation about management and board changes at Yahoo.</p>
<p>This is Kenny&#8217;s first board meeting, but this well-connected newbie is someone who is clearly going to rise quickly to the top of decision-making at Yahoo.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the smooth and well-liked Kenny, who also has deep advertising experience as founder of the Digitas agency, has a long relationship with Yahoo and also with Yang.</p>
<p>He also now has much more tech cred as a leader of one of the Internet&#8217;s most important infrastructure companies, with a ton of regular contacts with media giants, ad networks and video providers that are Akamai&#8217;s clients.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/02/72047-0-0-2.jpeg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2011/02/72047-0-0-2-275x275.jpg" alt="" title="72047-0-0-2" width="275" height="275" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-40303" /></a></p>
<p>In other words, Kenny (pictured here) is the full package of ad and tech experience that would make him an obvious Yahoo CEO candidate when Bartz&#8217;s contract is up in early 2013, if not before.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also the person most likely to take over for longtime BoomTown punching bag Roy Bostock as chairman of the board at some point.</p>
<p>None of this is happening soon, but it is clearly an interesting development.</p>
<p>There are other machinations, of course, from continued interest from private equity players in Yahoo, as well as a variety of takeover scenarios, each more complex than the next.</p>
<p>While often derided as yesterday&#8217;s news by the elite of Silicon Valley as on an inevitable downward path, those plots are there because Yahoo remains a stellar brand with consumers worldwide and an Internet property with huge traffic and a big ad business.</p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s a U that someday maybe could be a V.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo&#039;s (and Associated Content Founder) Luke Beatty Talks About Google&#039;s Content Farm Putsch</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yahoo's Luke Beatty said he is not worried.

"We welcome the change," he insisted about Google taking aim last Friday at so-called "content farms," producers of low-quality content that spam up the Web and the search giant's results. "And we endorse what Google is doing 100 percent."

That's ironic, given among those allegedly hit hardest by the tweaking of its famous algorithm--based on early, and perhaps questionable, surveys--is Yahoo's Associated Content.

Its founder talked to BoomTown about the impact.]]></description>
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<p>Yahoo&#8217;s Luke Beatty said he is not worried.</p>
<p>&#8220;We welcome the change,&#8221; he insisted about Google taking aim last Friday at so-called &#8220;content farms,&#8221; producers of low-quality content that spam up the Web and the search giant&#8217;s results. &#8220;And we endorse what Google is doing 100 percent.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s ironic, given among those allegedly hit hardest by changing of its famous algorithm&#8211;based on early, and perhaps questionable, surveys&#8211;is Yahoo&#8217;s Associated Content.</p>
<p>But, if true, and traffic at Associated Content&#8211;which the Silicon Valley Internet giant <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100518/yahoo-snaps-up-associated-content-for-90-million-to-counter-aol-and-demand-media">bought for $90 million</a> last May&#8211;is indeed badly hurt, it&#8217;s obviously going to be a problem for Yahoo, which relies on advertising revenue as its core business.</p>
<p>A quick poll by Sistrix, a search engine optimization firm, using one million keywords before and after Google&#8217;s changes, showed that Associated Content&#8217;s &#8220;visibility index&#8221;&#8211; including keyword and ranking positions ranking and clickthrough rate&#8211;was down 93 percent.</p>
<p>So yesterday, Beatty, who founded Associated Content and now works at Yahoo, dialed up BoomTown to talk about what the Google shift will mean to Yahoo.</p>
<p>First off in the wide-ranging interview, he noted, &#8220;everything on the Web is changing all the time,&#8221; noting that Associated Content used to rely more on the now weakened Digg and RSS for its traffic and distribution.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obviously, that has changed and we have still managed to grow,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Beatty said it is still not clear that the new tweaks in search criteria at Google would mean for Associated Content&#8217;s offerings&#8211;coming from 400,000 contributors of all kinds.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our data will not be reconciled for weeks&#8230;but some will be up and some will be down,&#8221; he said, adding the overall, &#8220;I suspect it will be down, although it&#8217;s not accurate by any means in the numbers released so far, since there is no way you can know this early.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s obvious that Google&#8217;s latest move has not been not good for Associated Content, although Beatty noted that the Silicon Valley search king is no longer the main source of traffic for Associated Content material.</p>
<p>Instead, that would be the owned-and-operated sites of Yahoo, most of all, and&#8211;increasingly&#8211;social networking sites such as Facebook.</p>
<p>&#8220;When we sold the company, we know that sites of Yahoo itself would be the biggest driver of our growth and that was the plan,&#8221; said Beatty. &#8220;And, though smaller, social means of distribution are clearly the way people are now finding our content.&#8221;</p>
<p>In an email later, Beatty underscored this point:</p>
<p>&#8220;Search traffic is not our focus within Yahoo&#8211;it hasn&#8217;t been for 10<br />
months&#8230;traffic sources have changed endlessly over that last six years&#8230;search is one, albeit an important one and clearly, [but] now it too is changing and we see the future of our content distribution coming from O&#038;O properties and social networks, as much as anything.&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2010/05/ac.png" alt="" title="ac" width="215" height="72" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-28533" /></p>
<p>Still, Beatty said Associated Content will adapt as long as Google does not make its tweaks on a network basis and rather than on a site basis. (Interestingly, that would presumably include Google&#8217;s own&#8211;and often spammish&#8211;Blogger property, which is fueled by its powerful AdSense engine.)</p>
<p>&#8220;It appears that changes have been made on an asset-by-asset basis<br />
is good&#8211;networkwide cramdown would be inappropriate and uneducated,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Still, the best way to fight the Google initiative is by delivering higher quality content, which Beatty said was being done at the company via a series of ongoing measures to improve overall submissions.</p>
<p>Those include a Yahoo style guide for content creators, a two-tiered human editor review process, analytical analysis, a featured contributor program and, interesting, an online tutorial process called the Yahoo Contributor Network.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not exactly Harvard University, of course, but Beatty said there is more to come.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are committed to supporting and helping our contributors navigate through this and every other change in the crowdsourced content economy,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We want the best article to get more traffic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, with Google&#8217;s doubtlessly continuing changes in its criteria for what good content is, presumably, that won&#8217;t be Yahoo&#8217;s to decide.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Shares Feel Pressure Ahead of Next Week&#039;s Earnings</title>
		<link>http://allthingsd.com/20110119/yahoo-shares-feel-pressure-ahead-of-next-weeks-earnings/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a while recently, it looked like Yahoo shares might start pulling out of their longtime $16 range, boosted by various and sundry rumors about the sale of its Asian assets and other machinations.

But, as worries about its next earnings call in less than a week coalesce, Wall Street has taken a wait-and-see position on the Internet giant's stock.]]></description>
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<p>For a while recently, it looked like Yahoo shares might start pulling out of their longtime $16 range, boosted by various and sundry rumors about the sale of its Asian assets and other machinations.</p>
<p>But, as worries about its next earnings call in less than a week coalesce, the Internet giant&#8217;s stock has settled right around its 50-day moving average of $16.59, closing down 1.85 percent at $16.50 yesterday.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not bad given the stock has a 52-week low of $12.94 (and a 52-week high of $19.12).</p>
<p>But, it did not stop Morgan Stanley from downgrading Yahoo shares on Monday and cutting its revenue and earnings estimates.</p>
<p>The reason? &#8220;Deteriorating fundamentals&#8221; and a belief that &#8220;users will increasingly consume media/content on Facebook vs. Yahoo!&#8221;</p>
<p><em>You think?</em> (As Yahoo has found, it appears that the kids love to social network!)</p>
<p>Thus, despite a healthy valuation for those Asian assets in the Alibaba Group and Yahoo! Japan and some speculation about the sale of them&#8211;the lack of any revenue growth in Yahoo&#8217;s core U.S. market is still the big drag on the Silicon Valley icon.</p>
<p>Because of that, there has also been increased short seller activity recently, which means all eyes will be on Yahoo&#8217;s fourth-quarter earnings release next Tuesday, Jan. 25.</p>
<p>Currently, Wall Street analysts expect higher earnings of 22 cents a share on revenue of $1.19 billion for Yahoo.</p>
<p>That revenue number is lower than a year ago, due to a weakening display advertising business and declines in search ad revenue at the company.</p>
<p>And it will not help if Google, as expected tomorrow, turns in a blow-out quarter, especially if it shows strength in its own display business.</p>
<p>So, after its continued <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20101019/liveblogging-yahoos-3q-earnings-busy-busy-busy-so-go-away-tim-armstrong">lackluster revenue in the last quarter</a>, top <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100930/yahoo-confirms-exec-departures-the-internal-memo-from-the-foxhole/">executive turnover in its media business</a> and <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20101215/heres-carol-bartzs-internal-layoff-memo-to-beleaguered-yahoo-troops">layoffs in December</a>, investors are going to be expecting some long-promised sign of turnaround from Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz.</p>
<p>Whether she can finally start to deliver on that or not next week remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>Steve Jobs's Finest Product&#8211;Apple&#8211;Won't Break Down</title>
		<link>http://allthingsd.com/20110118/jobss-absence-should-have-no-measurable-impact-on-apples-financial-performance-says-analyst/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paczkowski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s been said that Steve Jobs is Apple’s greatest asset and its greatest risk. And there’s no better illustration of that dictum than recent history. The last time Jobs went on medical leave in January of 2009, Apple shares tanked, falling some eight percent to $78.50. But in the months that followed, they rose more than 50 percent, despite continued concerns over his health.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2011/01/SteveandTim-380x253.jpg" alt="" title="SteveandTim" width="380" height="253" class="aligncenter size-Medium380 wp-image-55876" />It&#8217;s been said that Steve Jobs is Apple&#8217;s greatest asset and its greatest risk. And there&#8217;s no better illustration of that dictum than recent history.</p>
<p>The last time Jobs went on medical leave, in January of 2009, <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090114/aapl-sauce-2/">Apple shares tanked, falling some eight percent to $78.50</a>. But in the months that followed, they rose more than 50 percent, despite continued concerns over his health. By the end of June, Jobs was back at work. By September <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090909/live-from-apples-lets-rock-event-10-am-pdt/">he was appearing onstage at Apple events</a>.</p>
<p>Then came <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100127/apple-special-event-live-blog/">the iPad</a>. And the iPhone 4. By October of 2010 <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20101013/apple-shares-top-300/">the company&#8217;s shares had risen above $300 for the first time ever</a>. And today they stand at $348.48.</p>
<p>In the end, Apple really didn&#8217;t miss a beat the last time Jobs stepped away to focus on his health, despite all the hysterical speculation that it might. And it&#8217;s not likely to this time, either &#8212; regardless of the open-ended nature of his leave and what some folks are describing as a &#8220;less optimistic&#8221; tone in his message to employees.</p>
<p>&#8220;Steve Jobs&#8217;s third medical leave raises the possibility, however remote, that he may not return to Apple,&#8221; Needham analyst Charlie Wolf told me this morning. &#8220;Jobs&#8217;s absence should have no measurable impact on Apple&#8217;s financial performance for several years, if ever. It took John Sculley, arguably one of the worst managers in the country&#8217;s history, three years to erase Jobs&#8217;s legacy in the 1980s. Today, starting with Tim Cook, Apple has one of the deepest and strongest managerial benches in this country. Tim Cook has matured into one of the leading managers in this country (see video below).  However, no one can replace Steve Jobs, arguably the leading innovator in the past century, beginning with the Mac, then the iPod, iPhone and iPad in the past decade. What Apple loses in Jobs&#8217;s absence is the opportunity and ability to disrupt and redefine still other industries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Charlie&#8217;s point is a good one, though I disagree that Apple risks losing its ability to disrupt and redefine in Jobs&#8217;s absence. I think that Jobs baked those things into the company, its culture and executive leadership long ago. In fact, one could argue that it&#8217;s Apple, not the iPhone or iPad, that is Jobs&#8217;s masterpiece product, a company designed to set the bar for the industry, regardless of whether it&#8217;s him leading its day-to-day operations or not.</p>
<p>Below, Tim Cook speaks at Auburn University&#8217;s spring 2010 commencement.</p>
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<b>PREVIOUSLY</b></p>
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<li><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110117/steve-jobs-asked-for-privacy-and-he-deserves-it-this-time/">Steve Jobs Asked for Privacy–and He Deserves It This Time</a></li>
<li><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20110117/apple-shares-down-nearly-8-percent-in-frankfurt-on-news-of-jobss-medical-leave/">Apple Shares Down Nearly 8 Percent in Frankfurt on News of Jobs’s Medical Leave</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20110117/citing-health-steve-jobs-steps-away-from-apple-again/">Citing Health, Steve Jobs Steps Away From Apple, Again</a></li>
<li><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20110104/deutsche-bank-joins-the-running-of-the-apple-bulls/">Deutsche Bank Joins the Running of the Apple Bulls</a></li>
<li><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090909/live-from-apples-lets-rock-event-10-am-pdt/">Jobs: “I’m Vertical, Back at Apple and Loving Every Day of It”</a></li>
<li><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090115/apple-shareholders-are-wusses/">Apple Investors Are Wusses</a> </i>
<li><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090115/when-steve-jobs-said-stay-hungry-stay-foolish-he-did-not-mean-this-foolish/">When Steve Jobs Said “Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish,” He Did Not Mean This Foolish</a></i>
<li><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090114/aapl-sauce-2/">AAPL Sauce</a></i>
<li><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090114/breaking-apples-steve-jobs-taking-medical-leave-until-end-of-june/">Apple’s Steve Jobs: “I Have Decided to Take a Medical Leave of Absence”</a></i>
<li><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090105/steve-jobs-explains-his-health-problem-hormone-imbalance-predicts-recovery-by-spring-will-stay-on-as-ceo/">The Entire Letter: Steve Jobs Explains His Health Problem: “Hormone Imbalance”–Predicts Recovery by Spring and Will Stay On as CEO</a>
<li><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20080728/aint-nobodys-business-if-jobs-is-or-isnt/">Ain’t Nobody’s Business If Jobs Is or Isn’t</a></i>
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		<title>Demand Media Clears SEC and Prices IPO</title>
		<link>http://allthingsd.com/20110112/demand-media-clears-sec-and-prices-ipo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Demand Media is set to go public, according to an amended filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, with shares priced from $14 to $16 each.

The online publisher could sell up to 8.625 million shares and, if it prices at the top of the range, it could be worth about $1.3 billion and raise $138 million.]]></description>
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<p>Demand Media is set to go public, according to an amended filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, with shares priced from $14 to $16 each.</p>
<p>The online publisher could sell up to 8.625 million shares and, if it prices at the top of the range, it could be worth about $1.3 billion and raise $138 million.</p>
<p>That includes 4.5 million shares from the company, three million shares from existing shareholders and another 1.125 shares that its underwriters have an option to sell.</p>
<p>Demand will net $58.1 million, if the IPO price is $15.00 per share, which it said it will use for &#8220;investments in content, international expansion, working capital, product development, sales and marketing activities, general and administrative matters and capital expenditures.&#8221;</p>
<p>The company added that &#8220;we currently anticipate that our aggregate investments in content during the year ending December 31, 2011 will range from $50 million to $75 million.&#8221;</p>
<p>Demand&#8217;s ticker symbol will be DMD on the New York Stock Exchange.</p>
<p>In its <a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1365038/000104746911000109/a2201506zs-1a.htm">amended prospectus</a>, Demand said:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>This is an initial public offering of shares of common stock of Demand Media, Inc.</p>
<p>Demand Media is offering 4,500,000 of the shares to be sold in the offering. The selling stockholders identified in this prospectus are offering an additional 3,000,000 shares. Demand Media will not receive any of the proceeds from the sale of the shares being sold by the selling stockholders.</p>
<p>Prior to this offering, there has been no public market for the common stock. It is currently estimated that the initial public offering price per share will be between $14.00 and $16.00.</p>
<p>The common stock of Demand Media has been approved for listing on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol &#8220;DMD.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Demand&#8217;s road to an IPO has been relatively quick.</p>
<p>One bump came last month, <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20101223/demand-medias-ipo-which-wont-happen-until-after-the-new-year-now-depends-on-how-it-accounts-for-content/">as BoomTown reported</a> after the Santa Monica, Calif. company had to satisfy government regulatory questions over the way it recognizes costs of creating content.</p>
<p>Currently, using a concept of &#8220;long-lived&#8221; content, Demand has been amortizing those expenses over five years, since it says it continues to generate revenue on that material over that much time. Most publisher recognize costs immediately.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s different from many companies in the publishing business, which typically account for costs of creating content immediately as they are incurred or over a much shorter time period.</p>
<p>Demand has determined that its content has a more evergreen nature, compared to more topical&#8211;and perishable, from a revenue point of view&#8211;material produced by others.</p>
<p>Obviously, since this accounting treatment results in more attractive financial results, the longer expense period is of great interest to many other online content creators&#8211;such as AOL and Yahoo&#8211;which are watching the Demand IPO closely.</p>
<p>While the SEC did not ask Demand to make changes to its accounting practices, the amended S-1 is more detailed about them.</p>
<p>To be allowed to expense over five years, Demand said, the company has to use a sophisticated algorithmic platform&#8211;which other content creators do not have&#8211;to provide proof of &#8220;probable economic benefits&#8221; from that content over that time.</p>
<p>Since Demand has long claimed that it has a new and innovative approach to content creation, it is making the case to investors that it needs to have the correct accounting for that approach.</p>
<p>Said Demand in its amended filing:</p>
<p>&#8220;In determining whether content embodies probable future economic benefit required for asset capitalization, management has reviewed, and intends to regularly review the operating performance of content published.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, it warned:</p>
<p>&#8220;Changes from the five year useful life we currently use to amortize our capitalized content would have a significant impact on our financial statements. For example, if underlying assumptions were to change such that our estimate of the weighted average useful life of our media content was higher by one year from January 1, 2010, our net loss would decrease by approximately $1.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2010, and would increase by approximately $2.4 million should the weighted average useful life be reduced by one year.&#8221;</p>
<p>The practice has passed government scrutiny and now investors will decide what they think of this and the entire business of Demand.</p>
<p>Demand execs will now go on a road show for the offering, which is being led by Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Demand Media's latest amended regulatory filing for its IPO--which will now be taking place in 2011--gives investors greater detail about how and for how long the company accounts for its content costs.

Apparently, pushing the envelope in content creation seems to also mean pushing it in accounting for it too.]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday, Demand Media submitted another <a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1365038/000104746910010535/a2200133zs-1a.htm">amended S-1</a> to the Securities and Exchange Commission, part of its march to an initial public offering many had expected to take place <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20101029/demand-medias-ipo-is-on-deck-with-amended-filing/">sooner rather than later</a>.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s taken so long, said multiple sources familiar with the situation, has been discussions between government regulators and the Santa Monica, Calif., online content company about how to more fully explain to investors&#8211;which it did so in the new S-1&#8211;how it expenses the costs of making its content.</p>
<p>Currently, using a concept of &#8220;long-lived&#8221; content, Demand has been amortizing those expenses over five years, since it says it continues to generate revenue on that material over that much time.</p>
<p>As the company noted in its S-1 filing:</p>
<p>&#8220;Capitalized media content is amortized on a straight-line basis over five years, representing the Company&#8217;s estimate of the pattern that the underlying economic benefits are expected to be realized and based on its estimates of the projected cash flows from advertising revenues expected to be generated by the deployment of its content. These estimates are based on the Company&#8217;s plans and projections, comparison of the economic returns generated by its content of comparable quality and an analysis of historical cash flows generated by that content to date.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s different from many companies in the publishing business, which typically account for costs of creating content immediately as they are incurred or over a much shorter time period.</p>
<p>Demand has determined that its content has a more evergreen nature, compared to more topical&#8211;and perishable, from a revenue point of view&#8211;material produced by others.</p>
<p>Obviously, since this accounting treatment results in more attractive financial results, the longer expense period is of great interest to many other online content creators&#8211;such as AOL and Yahoo&#8211;which are watching the Demand IPO closely.</p>
<p>While the SEC has not asked Demand to make changes to its accounting practices, the amended S-1 is more detailed about them.</p>
<p>To be allowed to expense over five years, Demand said, the company has to use a sophisticated algorithmic platform&#8211;which other content creators do not have&#8211;to provide proof of &#8220;probable economic benefits&#8221; from that content over that time.</p>
<p>Since Demand has long claimed that it has a new and innovative approach to content creation, it is making the case to investors that it needs to have the correct accounting for that approach.</p>
<p>Said Demand in its amended filing:</p>
<p>&#8220;In determining whether content embodies probable future economic benefit required for asset capitalization, management has reviewed, and intends to regularly review the operating performance of content published.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, it warned:</p>
<p>&#8220;Changes from the five year useful life we currently use to amortize our capitalized content would have a significant impact on our financial statements. For example, if underlying assumptions were to change such that our estimate of the weighted average useful life of our media content was higher by one year from January 1, 2010, our net loss would decrease by approximately $1.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2010, and would increase by approximately $2.4 million should the weighted average useful life be reduced by one year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sources said Demand&#8217;s road show for investors will not start until the SEC gives its final approval, pushing its IPO into next year.</p>
<p>Demand&#8217;s initial filing was to raise $125 million at a reported $1.5 billion valuation. It had said it hoped to have DMD as its ticker symbol on the New York Stock Exchange.</p>
<p>There is no price range yet for the offering, which is being led by Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.</p>
<p>Until it all happens, here&#8217;s one key section on these issues in the latest S-1 to peruse:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p><strong>Capitalization and Useful Lives Associated with our Intangible Assets, including Content and Internal Software and Website Development Costs</strong></p>
<p>We publish long-lived media content generated by our content studio which we commission and acquire from third party freelance content creators. Direct costs incurred for each individual content unit that we determine embodies a probable future economic benefit are capitalized. The vast majority of direct content costs represent amounts paid to freelance content creators to acquire content units and, to a lesser extent, specifically identifiable internal direct labor costs incurred to enhance the value of acquired content units prior to their publication. Internal costs not directly attributable to the enhancement of content units acquired prior to publication are expensed as incurred. All costs incurred to deploy and publish content are expensed as incurred, including the costs incurred for the ongoing maintenance of websites on which our content resides. We acquire content when our internal systems and processes, including an analysis of millions of historical Internet search queries, advertising marketing terms, or keywords, and other data provide reasonable assurance that, given predicted consumer and advertiser demand relative to our predetermined cost to acquire the content, the content unit will generate revenues over its useful life that exceed the cost of acquisition. In determining whether content embodies probable future economic benefit required for asset capitalization, management has reviewed, and intends to regularly review the operating performance of content published.</p>
<p>We also capitalize initial registration and acquisition costs of our undeveloped websites and our internally developed software and website development costs during their development phase.</p>
<p>In addition we have also capitalized certain identifiable intangible assets acquired in connection with business combinations and we use valuation techniques to value these intangibles assets, with the primary technique being a discounted cash flow analysis. A discounted cash flow analysis requires us to make various judgmental assumptions and estimates including projected revenues, operating costs, growth rates, useful lives and discount rates.</p>
<p>Our finite lived intangible assets are amortized over their estimated useful lives using the straight-line method, which approximates the estimated pattern in which the underlying economic benefits are consumed. Capitalized website registration costs for undeveloped websites are amortized on a straight-line basis over their estimated useful lives of one to seven years. Internally developed software and website development costs are depreciated on a straight-line basis over their estimated three -year useful life. We amortize our intangible assets acquired through business combinations on a straight-line basis over the period in which the underlying economic benefits are expected to be consumed.</p>
<p>Capitalized content is amortized on a straight-line basis over five years, representing our estimate of the pattern that the underlying economic benefits are expected to be realized and based on our estimates of the projected cash flows from advertising revenues expected to be generated by the deployment of our content. These estimates are based on our current plans and projections for our content, our comparison of the economic returns generated by content of comparable quality and an analysis of historical cash flows generated by that content to date which, particularly for more recent content cohorts, is somewhat limited. To date, certain content that we acquired in business combinations has generated cash flows from advertisements beyond a five year useful life. The acquisition of content, at scale, however, is a new and rapidly evolving model, and therefore we closely monitor its performance and, periodically, assess its estimated useful life.</p>
<p>Advertising revenue generated from the deployment of our media content makes up a significant element of our business such that amounts we record in our financial statements related to our content are material. Significant judgment is required in estimating the useful life of our content. Changes from the five year useful life we currently use to amortize our capitalized content would have a significant impact on our financial statements. For example, if underlying assumptions were to change such that our estimate of the weighted average useful life of our media content was higher by one year from January 1, 2010, our net loss would decrease by approximately $1.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2010, and would increase by approximately $2.4 million should the weighted average useful life be reduced by one year. We periodically assess the useful life of our content, and when adjustments in our estimate of the useful life of content are required, any changes from prior estimates are accounted for prospectively.</p></blockquote>
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