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		<title>Boxee Sells Live TV (That You Already Get for Free) With a Big Dose of Cord-Cutting Rhetoric</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A new $50 dongle provides a good opportunity to check in with CEO Avner Ronen and get a state-of-the-state on his business. Short version: Users like his stuff; big TV programmers, not so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/11/boxee-cable.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-144772" title="boxee cable" src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/11/boxee-cable-317x285.png" alt="" width="317" height="285" /></a>Boxee has a new $50 gadget that makes it easier to toggle between broadcast TV and Web video options. CEO Avner Ronen has a <a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/?p=5130">blog post</a> explaining/selling the doodad, but for me the rollout is a good chance to get Ronen to update us on the state of Boxee, and &#8220;over the top&#8221;/cable-free video in general. (Also, a good chance to say &#8220;dongle.&#8221; Always fun.)</p>
<p>Over the past few years, Ronen has flipped back and forth as he positions his company. Initially, he sold Boxee&#8217;s software as <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20090112/boxee-webtv-that-makes-sense-is-that-good-or-bad-for-big-cable/">a way to help nerds watch video without having to pay for cable</a>; then, as <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">he attracted the attention &#8212; and ire &#8212; of many TV programmers</a> he wanted to work with, he <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20101108/boxee-goes-hunting-for-big-bucks/?mod=ATD_rss">toned that rhetoric down</a>.</p>
<p>Now he&#8217;s turned it back up. &#8220;This is a cord-cutting device,&#8221; he says in person, and the company&#8217;s marketing materials drive that home (see the image above).</p>
<p>Ronen claims that 2 million people a month use some combination of his gadget or his software. He says half of them have either cut the cord or never bought one in the first place &#8212; that is, they&#8217;ve never paid Comcast, Time Warner Cable or anyone else for a video subscription (though they&#8217;re almost certainly paying them for broadband).</p>
<p>Pitching yourself as the cord-cutter&#8217;s pal is an excellent way to attract attention, but it will make it hard to ever make headway with the big content guys who make a lot of money from cable.</p>
<p>Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that while <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20101110/a-web-video-truce-free-hulu-goes-away-from-boxee-replaced-by-hulu-plus/">Boxee announced it had a deal with Hulu a year ago</a>, the video service&#8217;s subscription service has yet to appear on Ronen&#8217;s box. (Reminder: Hulu is still owned by a joint venture that includes Disney, Comcast and News Corp., which also owns this site.)</p>
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		<title>Boxee Rolls Out Another Box</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There's already an "official" Boxee Box, but if the Web video start-up succeeds it will be by getting its software on lots and lots of boxes. So here's another one: A "Network Attached Storage" device--the equivalent of a very big thumb drive--from Iomega that will retail for $229 and up. For a reminder of what Boxee is trying to do, check out this interview with CEO Avner Ronen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s already an &#8220;official&#8221; Boxee Box, but if the Web video start-up succeeds it will be by getting its software on lots and lots of devices. So here&#8217;s another one: A &#8220;<a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2011/01/04/boxee-partners-with-iomega-nas-device-running-boxee-is-coming/">Network Attached Storage&#8221; device</a>&#8211;the equivalent of a very big thumb drive&#8211;from Iomega that will retail for $229 and up. For a reminder of what Boxee is trying to do, check out this interview with CEO <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20101112/why-boxees-box-doesnt-matter-and-why-it-does/">Avner Ronen</a>.</p>
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		<title>Why Boxee&#039;s Box Doesn&#039;t Matter&#8211;And Why It Does</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time to clear up what Boxee is trying to do with its Boxee Box: Think Netflix, not Roku.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/11/boxee-box.jpg"><img src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/11/boxee-box-275x203.jpg" alt="" title="boxee-box" width="275" height="203" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-25804" /></a>I&#8217;ve seen lots of oohing and aahing about the new Boxee Box that rolled out Wednesday. I haven&#8217;t played with it yet, but for now I&#8217;ll assume it&#8217;s as cool as the gadget press says it is.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s be clear about what the Boxee Box is, and what it&#8217;s not:</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s not going to generate any significant revenue for the Web video company.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s not the way that Boxee imagines most people will end up using its software.</li>
<li>It <em>is</em> a starting point for the company.</li>
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<p>Boxee&#8217;s real plan is both clear and a bit undefined: It wants to get its software on as many devices as possible&#8211;not just the Boxee Box but everything from Sony&#8217;s TVs to Microsoft&#8217;s Xbox 360s to Samsung&#8217;s Blu-ray players. And then it wants to build some kind of business based on advertising, consumer payments or both.</p>
<p>So Boxee isn&#8217;t trying to make money by licensing its software to hardware companies, any more than Netflix or Pandora is when they get their apps installed on different gadgets. It&#8217;s giving D-Link, the company that&#8217;s actually making the Boxee Box, its software for free. And it will do the same for other hardware companies.</p>
<p>Or put another way: Boxee competitor Roku is all about selling the Roku box. Boxee is all about getting its software in between video owners/distributors and video viewers, just like Google TV wants to do. The Boxee Box is important because, if it works, it will help Boxee convince other hardware companies that they need its software, too. (It might also help the company <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20101108/boxee-goes-hunting-for-big-bucks/">close its funding round</a>, though I get the feeling it has investors ready to cut checks right now.)</p>
<p>For whatever reason, some of Boxee&#8217;s legion of fans&#8211;this is a company that packs concert halls for product rollouts&#8211;seem unclear about what the company is trying to do. So do some non-fans outside the company, like <a href="http://twitter.com/om/status/2746135349297152">&uuml;ber-blogger Om Malik</a>.</p>
<p>So yesterday, after Twittering about the topic with Malik, and then with <a href="http://twitter.com/bijan/status/2748114721050624">Boxee investor Bijan Sabet</a>, I got Boxee CEO Avner Ronen to stand in front of a Flip cam so he could explain the plan to all of you at the same time. We also touched briefly on Boxee&#8217;s relationship with Hulu. Ronen confirmed what I&#8217;d reported on Wednesday: Hulu Plus will come to the Boxee Box, <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20101110/a-web-video-truce-free-hulu-goes-away-from-boxee-replaced-by-hulu-plus/">but the free Hulu service won&#8217;t be available</a>.</p>
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		<title>A Web Video Truce: Free Hulu Goes Away From Boxee, Replaced by Hulu Plus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Hulu-Boxee war is over! The terms of the truce: Boxee, which makes software that makes it easy to get Web video on TV, will remove links to Hulu's free service--but will give users the ability to use the Hulu Plus paid service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hulu-Boxee war is over! The terms of the truce: Boxee, which makes software that makes it easy to get Web video on TV, will remove links to Hulu&#8217;s free service&#8211;but will give users the ability to use the Hulu Plus paid service.</p>
<p>Boxee CEO Avner Ronen is scheduled to make the announcement tonight at an event celebrating the release of the Boxee Box, his company&#8217;s first move into the consumer electronics business.</p>
<p>The arrangement with Hulu, which is primarily owned by News Corp.&#8217;s Fox, Disney&#8217;s ABC and GE&#8217;s NBC Universal, marks the end of a conflict that dates back to February 2009. That&#8217;s when <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">Hulu insisted that Boxee take down links to its service</a>, then tried severing the connections itself.</p>
<p>Hulu said it made the move at the insistence of its network partners (an argument that outgoing <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20100204/boxee-either-jeff-zucker-or-jason-kilar-are-lying-about-booting-us-of-hulu/">NBC U boss Jeff Zucker said was not true</a>). But recently it has stopped complaining publicly about Boxee.</p>
<p>And as I noted earlier this week,<a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20101108/boxee-goes-hunting-for-big-bucks/?mod=ATD_rss"> the big networks have warmed to Boxee in the last year or so</a>. And with the appearance of Google TV, which offers something similar to Boxee, they appear to be more amenable to working with Ronen and company.</p>
<p>Boxee will also have other content partnerships to announce tonight, I&#8217;m told, including a deeper relationship with Netflix. More details on that, as well as timing of the Hulu move, as I hear about it.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Alas, no details from Boxee on either&#8211;just confirmation that Netflix will come to Boxee by the end of the year, and that Hulu Plus will come &#8220;soon.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Boxee Goes Hunting for Big Bucks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boxee hits a big milestone this week, when its very own Boxee Box hits the market. But that won't help the start-up pay its growing staff, which is why Avner Ronen is out raising a big round.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/avner-ronen-march-photo.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5239" title="avner-ronen-march-photo" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/avner-ronen-march-photo-300x272.png" alt="" width="200" height="181" /></a><a href="http://www.boxee.tv/">Boxee</a>, which makes software that makes it easy to watch Web video on your TV, celebrates a big milestone this week, when <a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2010/10/20/boxee-box-ships-on-nov-10th-rsvp-for-the-launch-event-in-nyc/">the first Boxee-branded hardware</a> starts shipping to consumers. The start-up is celebrating with an event at New York&#8217;s <a href="http://boxeebox.eventbrite.com/">Irving Plaza</a>.</p>
<p>But the company&#8217;s next big move likely won&#8217;t happen in public view: Sources say Boxee is out trying to raise a significant funding round, likely in the $10 million to $15 million range.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m told that existing investors Union Square, Spark and General Catalyst, which have helped Boxee raise $12 million to date, all plan to re-up, and will likely pick up half of the round. No word on who the new money is, or how close the round is to closing.</p>
<p>CEO Avner Ronen will need it sooner than later, though. His two-year-old company now has a significant payroll&#8211;33 people, at last count&#8211;and very little revenue coming in the door.</p>
<p>The new Boxee Boxes shipping this week won&#8217;t change that. Boxee isn&#8217;t trying to succeed by charging manufacturers like D-Link, which is making the devices, big licensing fees.</p>
<p>Instead, it&#8217;s trying to build a significant audience by getting its software on lots of hardware&#8211;TVs, Blu-ray players, game machines, etc.&#8211;and figure out a way to turn that into money down the line. Boxee is at 1.4 million users now, but that&#8217;s not nearly big enough. It wants Pandora- or Netflix-like scale.</p>
<p>This is an interesting time for Ronen to be out pitching: The existing TV industry is <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20100923/hey-cable-guys-cord-cutting-is-real-and-its-a-problem-says-verizon/">ripe</a> <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20101104/time-warner-cable-says-its-looking-for-cord-cutters-but-cant-find-them-either/">for</a> <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20101027/comcast-says-its-disappearing-subscribers-arent-cord-cutters/">disruption</a>. And the idea that consumers will watch Web video on their TV is moving from science fiction to reality, spurred on by the likes of Hulu, Netflix, Apple TV and now Google TV.</p>
<p>But Google TV&#8217;s mission&#8211;to merge Web video with traditional TV on one screen&#8211;is pretty much the same as Boxee&#8217;s. If Google figures it out, it would seem to crowd out the competition.</p>
<p>On the other hand, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303339504575566572021412854.html">TV programmers who are wary of Google&#8217;s dominance</a> might very well welcome multiple competitors. Which may be one of the reasons that Ronen is supposedly getting a much warmer reception from traditional TV executives <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">than he used to get</a>.</p>
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		<title>Boxee: Either Jeff Zucker or Jason Kilar Is Lying About Booting Us Off Hulu</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little Boxee, the much hyped Web video service, played a cameo role at today's Congressional hearings on the Comcast-NBCU deal. And as sometimes happens when Boxee and big media intersect, controversy ensued.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/02/zucker-cspan.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-15989" title="zucker cspan" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/02/zucker-cspan-275x193.png" alt="" width="275" height="193" /></a>Little Boxee, the much hyped Web video service, played a cameo role at today&#8217;s Congressional hearings on the Comcast (CMCSA)-NBCU deal. And as sometimes happens when <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090112/boxee-webtv-that-makes-sense-is-that-good-or-bad-for-big-cable/">Boxee and big media intersect</a>, controversy ensued.</p>
<p>The short version: Rep. Rick Boucher, the Virginia Democrat who heads the Subcommittee on Communications, Technology and the Internet, asked NBC head Jeff Zucker about last year&#8217;s <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090306/hulu-brushes-off-boxee-and-boxee-comes-back-for-more/">incident</a> involving <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">Hulu&#8217;s effort to bar Boxee from using its feed</a>.</p>
<p>At the time, Hulu CEO Jason Kilar said his actions were prompted by his &#8220;content owners,&#8221; which most people, <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090313/boxee-ceo-avner-ronen-gets-a-crash-course-in-the-tv-business/">including me</a>, assumed meant GE&#8217;s (GE) NBC and/or News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) Fox, the media conglomerates that had invested in the video service.</p>
<p>But today at the hearings, Zucker pointed the finger back at Hulu (full clip at bottom of this post):</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>This was a decision made by the Hulu management to, uh, what Boxee was doing was illegally taking the content that was on Hulu without any business deal. And, you know, all, all the, we have several distributors, actually many distributors of the Hulu content that we have legal distribution deals with so we don’t preclude distribution deals. What we preclude are those who illegally take that content.</p></blockquote>
<p>In a <a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2010/02/04/boxee-responds-to-nbcs-jeff-zucker/">blog post</a>, Boxee CEO Avner Ronen points out the seeming inconsistency between the two statements&#8211;though he&#8217;s incorrect in saying that Kilar blamed NBC, because Kilar didn&#8217;t actually say that in his <a href="http://blog.hulu.com/2009/02/18/doing-hard-things/">original blog post</a>. That makes sense, because Kilar is one careful and cautious dude, which you have to be when you&#8217;re running a joint venture that&#8217;s now co-owned by three big media conglomerates.</p>
<p>Ronen also restates his general case&#8211;that Boxee is not much more than a Web browser, so it&#8217;s not taking anyone&#8217;s content at all, just displaying it, ads and all. And from what I can tell, that argument is gaining increasing traction among some big media players.</p>
<p>But while I&#8217;ve never been able to get a straight answer from Hulu or its owners about the Boxee incident, I do get the sense that it&#8217;s one issue that sticks in the collective craw of Hulu managers. So I&#8217;m not sure things are going to get resolved anytime soon at that site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve asked Hulu and NBC for comment and will update if I hear back.</p>
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		<title>Web Video Darling Boxee Gets Another $6 Million: Are Zero Revenue and Big Plans Worth $25 Million?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yet another sign that revenue-free start-ups can still attract investors, given the right pitch: Boxee, the software company that makes it easy to get Web video onto your TV, has raised a $6 million B round led by General Catalyst. I'm told the new round pegs the company's value in the $25 million to $30 million range. What's the appeal? The chance that the company could play a role in the disruption of the $70 billion TV business.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/avner-ronen-march-photo.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5239" title="avner-ronen-march-photo" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/avner-ronen-march-photo-300x272.png" alt="avner-ronen-march-photo" width="250" height="226" /></a>Yet another sign that revenue-free start-ups can still attract investors, given the right pitch: Boxee, the software company that makes it easy to get Web video onto your TV, has raised a $6 million B round led by General Catalyst. I&#8217;m told the new round pegs the company&#8217;s value in the $25 million to $30 million range.</p>
<p>Boxee has a small but passionate following of some 600,000 users, and it&#8217;s gotten a lot of attention this year, much of it via a <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/?mod=ATD_search">fight</a> with Hulu, which <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090306/hulu-brushes-off-boxee-and-boxee-comes-back-for-more/?mod=ATD_search">doesn&#8217;t want</a> its video <a href="http://d7.allthingsd.com/20090528/zucker-hulus-not-backing-away-from-anti-boxee-stance/?mod=ATD_search">showing up on Boxee browsers</a>.</p>
<p>But Boxee doesn&#8217;t have any revenue, or much of a concrete plan to generate any in the near term: The software is free for consumers, and while CEO Avner Ronen thinks there could be some rev-share possibilities with Web video providers down the road, they&#8217;re&#8230;down the road.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the appeal for company&#8217;s backers, which also include Union Square Ventures and Spark Capital, which put $4 million into the company eight months ago and participated in this round as well? It&#8217;s pretty straightforward: The $70 billion TV business is in the first steps of a massive reordering, and perhaps Boxee can play a role in it.</p>
<p>The chief appeal is that Boxee can function as an &#8220;over the top&#8221; alternative to cable TV, giving users the ability to get their favorite programs on a big screen without having to pony up to the likes of Comcast (CMCSA). Ronen wants to use some of his money to ramp up efforts to strike deals with consumer electronics companies like Sony (SNE) and LG, which are pushing Internet-connected TVs, and Microsoft (MSFT), whose Xbox game console is increasingly functioning as an entertainment hub.</p>
<p>But there are plenty of other players jockeying for similar positions, from services like ZillionTV to device makers like Roku, and even Apple (AAPL). And Boxee&#8217;s status as a potential disruptor has a downside as well: It&#8217;s the reason that Hulu, backed at the time by News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) Fox and GE&#8217;s (GE) NBC, sought to prevent the service from accessing its shows earlier this year.</p>
<p>That said, there hasn&#8217;t been much saber-rattling from either side in recent months. Perhaps this has to do with Disney&#8217;s (DIS) ABC, which had previously enjoyed friendly relations with Boxee, <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090501/why-it-took-more-than-four-months-and-millions-of-dollars-to-get-lost-on-hulu/">coming aboard the joint venture</a>.</p>
<p>Here are a couple interviews I&#8217;ve conducted with Ronen this year: The first one was taped at the Consumer Electronics Show show in January, when his start-up was soaking up the first wave of attention from the TV industry; the second was taped in March, after Boxee had attracted Hulu&#8217;s ire.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Beth Callaghan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Silicon Valley, it's hard to believe that not everyone follows each shiny new thing on the Web, tracks OS versions as intently as the storyline for "Battlestar Galactica" and remains jacked-in pretty much 24/7. But it's been known to happen.
For instance, BoomTown was in Rome earlier this week attending a conference on business, brand and innovation that happens only once every seven years--and one of the biggest takeaways? Hardly any Italians have heard of Twitter, and those who have don't really use it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/roman.jpg" alt="roman" title="roman" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-full wp-image-14925" />In Silicon Valley, it&#8217;s hard to believe that not everyone follows each shiny new thing on the Web, tracks OS versions as intently as the storyline of &#8220;Battlestar Galactica&#8221; and remains jacked-in pretty much 24/7. But it&#8217;s been known to happen.</p>
<p>For instance, BoomTown was in Rome earlier this week attending a conference on business, brand and innovation that happens only once every seven years&#8211;and one of the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090312/when-in-rome-do-as-the-romans-do-as-in-no-twittering-or-much-iphoning/">biggest takeaways</a>? Hardly any Italians have heard of Twitter, and those who have don&#8217;t really use it. Well, that, and conversations with Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, and several Italian business leaders. Mark Zuckerberg, though, is most definitely plugged into the white-hot microblogging service. This week, he used his Twitter account, plus an appearance on &#8220;Oprah,&#8221; as a platform to herald the launch of Facebook&#8217;s own <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090313/if-oprah-approved-zuckerberg-cant-buy-twitter-co-opting-it-is-the-next-best-thing/">Twitteresque homepage redesign</a>. In other news, Time Warner (TWX) CEO Jeff Bewkes <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090312/jeff-bewkes-lays-off-aol-ceo-and-president-in-a-new-york-minute/">laid off</a> AOL President and COO Ron Grant and Chairman and CEO Randy Falco. BoomTown interviewed Falco&#8217;s replacement, Google (GOOG) ad sales exec <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090312/new-aol-chairman-and-ceo-and-about-to-be-ex-googler-tim-armstrong-speaks/">Tim Armstrong</a>, who&#8217;ll start at AOL as Chairman and CEO on April 7.</p>
<p>MediaMemo had the <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090312/aol-gets-a-new-ceo-google-sales-boss-tim-armstrong/">full memo</a> from Time Warner on the Falco/Grant-Armstrong transition and also spoke with <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090313/boxee-ceo-avner-ronen-gets-a-crash-course-in-the-tv-business/">Boxee CEO Avner Ronen</a> this week. Boxee is the start-up that lets you watch Web video on your TV, basically bypassing your cable box. Which is probably why it&#8217;s caught up in a cat-and-mouse game with Hulu, the joint venture between GE’s (GE) NBC and News Corp.’s (NWS) Fox that would much rather have you watch TV on the Internet instead. Guess who&#8217;s the mouse? Still, Hulu is <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090312/hulu-bigger-friendlier-still-missing-two-networks/">down two networks, ABC and CBS</a> (CBS)&#8211;though presumably, the aim is to offer all three. (News Corp. is the owner of Dow Jones, which owns this Web site.) MediaMemo also noted that Google rolled out its <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090311/google-starts-targeting-too-what-will-congress-do/">behavioral targeting functionality</a> this week and points out that we all might be hearing a lot more from a man named Rick Boucher in the near future as a result.</p>
<p>Behavioral targeting wasn&#8217;t the only thing that Google rolled out this week&#8211;it also launched <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090312/ma-google/">Google Voice</a>, the initiative based on the company&#8217;s acquisition of voice communications start-up GrandCentral. Digital Daily covered the story. Elsewhere in the telecom world, major Palm (PALM) investor Roger McNamee made some <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090306/qotd-111/">bold (read: crazy) assertions</a> about iPhone users switching en masse to the Pre, which later needed to be <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090310/palm-put-a-sock-in-it-mcnamee/">clarified (read: backed away from)</a> by Palm itself. RBC analyst <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090313/mike-abramsky-and-the-holy-pre/">Mike Abramsky</a> is also bullish on the Pre and its WebOS, but in a less crazy way. He gave it a glowing write-up on Friday. For a product that hasn&#8217;t yet been given a price or a launch date, it&#8217;s certainly building itself some high expectations. Of course, it&#8217;ll need to fulfill them to compete with the <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090312/iphone-30-preview-next-week/">ever-evolving iPhone</a>, which for which Apple (AAPL) is having a press event Tuesday to announce version 3.0 of the device&#8217;s OS.</p>
<p>Walt Mossberg reviewed the new version of Apple&#8217;s ever-evolving <a href="http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090311/the-littlest-ipod-packs-in-songs-and-finds-its-voice/">iPod Shuffle</a> this week, which has the distinction of being the first mp3 player to &#8220;speak.&#8221; His verdict was in Wednesday&#8217;s Personal Technology column. In <a href="http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20090311/a-stylus-for-the-iphone/">Mossberg&#8217;s Mailbox</a>, Walt answered questions about using a stylus with the iPhone and offered an explanation on how to change Apple&#8217;s Safari 4 beta so that it looks and works more like the previous version. And in this week&#8217;s Mossberg Solution, Katie Boehret took a look at <a href="http://solution.allthingsd.com/20090310/app-aims-to-up-social-status-of-some-basic-cellphones/">iSkoot&#8217;s Notifier</a>, an app designed to endow basic cellphones with smartphone-like capabilities.</p>
<p>More next week. And <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090313-ides-of-march-facts.html">beware the Ides of March</a>. <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8899367">Or not</a>.</p>
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		<title>Weekend Update, 3.14.09&#8211;Special Roman "Ides of March" Edition</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Beth Callaghan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Silicon Valley, it's hard to believe that not everyone follows each shiny new thing on the Web, tracks OS versions as intently as the storyline for "Battlestar Galactica" and remains jacked-in pretty much 24/7. But it's been known to happen.
For instance, BoomTown was in Rome earlier this week attending a conference on business, brand and innovation that happens only once every seven years--and one of the biggest takeaways? Hardly any Italians have heard of Twitter, and those who have don't really use it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/roman.jpg" alt="roman" title="roman" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-full wp-image-14925" />In Silicon Valley, it&#8217;s hard to believe that not everyone follows each shiny new thing on the Web, tracks OS versions as intently as the storyline of &#8220;Battlestar Galactica&#8221; and remains jacked-in pretty much 24/7. But it&#8217;s been known to happen.</p>
<p>For instance, BoomTown was in Rome earlier this week attending a conference on business, brand and innovation that happens only once every seven years&#8211;and one of the <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090312/when-in-rome-do-as-the-romans-do-as-in-no-twittering-or-much-iphoning/">biggest takeaways</a>? Hardly any Italians have heard of Twitter, and those who have don&#8217;t really use it. Well, that, and conversations with Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, and several Italian business leaders. Mark Zuckerberg, though, is most definitely plugged into the white-hot microblogging service. This week, he used his Twitter account, plus an appearance on &#8220;Oprah,&#8221; as a platform to herald the launch of Facebook&#8217;s own <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090313/if-oprah-approved-zuckerberg-cant-buy-twitter-co-opting-it-is-the-next-best-thing/">Twitteresque homepage redesign</a>. In other news, Time Warner (TWX) CEO Jeff Bewkes <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090312/jeff-bewkes-lays-off-aol-ceo-and-president-in-a-new-york-minute/">laid off</a> AOL President and COO Ron Grant and Chairman and CEO Randy Falco. BoomTown interviewed Falco&#8217;s replacement, Google (GOOG) ad sales exec <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090312/new-aol-chairman-and-ceo-and-about-to-be-ex-googler-tim-armstrong-speaks/">Tim Armstrong</a>, who&#8217;ll start at AOL as Chairman and CEO on April 7. </p>
<p>MediaMemo had the <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090312/aol-gets-a-new-ceo-google-sales-boss-tim-armstrong/">full memo</a> from Time Warner on the Falco/Grant-Armstrong transition and also spoke with <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090313/boxee-ceo-avner-ronen-gets-a-crash-course-in-the-tv-business/">Boxee CEO Avner Ronen</a> this week. Boxee is the start-up that lets you watch Web video on your TV, basically bypassing your cable box. Which is probably why it&#8217;s caught up in a cat-and-mouse game with Hulu, the joint venture between GE’s (GE) NBC and News Corp.’s (NWS) Fox that would much rather have you watch TV on the Internet instead. Guess who&#8217;s the mouse? Still, Hulu is <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090312/hulu-bigger-friendlier-still-missing-two-networks/">down two networks, ABC and CBS</a> (CBS)&#8211;though presumably, the aim is to offer all three. (News Corp. is the owner of Dow Jones, which owns this Web site.) MediaMemo also noted that Google rolled out its <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090311/google-starts-targeting-too-what-will-congress-do/">behavioral targeting functionality</a> this week and points out that we all might be hearing a lot more from a man named Rick Boucher in the near future as a result.</p>
<p>Behavioral targeting wasn&#8217;t the only thing that Google rolled out this week&#8211;it also launched <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090312/ma-google/">Google Voice</a>, the initiative based on the company&#8217;s acquisition of voice communications start-up GrandCentral. Digital Daily covered the story. Elsewhere in the telecom world, major Palm (PALM) investor Roger McNamee made some <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090306/qotd-111/">bold (read: crazy) assertions</a> about iPhone users switching en masse to the Pre, which later needed to be <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090310/palm-put-a-sock-in-it-mcnamee/">clarified (read: backed away from)</a> by Palm itself. RBC analyst <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090313/mike-abramsky-and-the-holy-pre/">Mike Abramsky</a> is also bullish on the Pre and its WebOS, but in a less crazy way. He gave it a glowing write-up on Friday. For a product that hasn&#8217;t yet been given a price or a launch date, it&#8217;s certainly building itself some high expectations. Of course, it&#8217;ll need to fulfill them to compete with the <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090312/iphone-30-preview-next-week/">ever-evolving iPhone</a>, which for which Apple (AAPL) is having a press event Tuesday to announce version 3.0 of the device&#8217;s OS.</p>
<p>Walt Mossberg reviewed the new version of Apple&#8217;s ever-evolving <a href="http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20090311/the-littlest-ipod-packs-in-songs-and-finds-its-voice/">iPod Shuffle</a> this week, which has the distinction of being the first mp3 player to &#8220;speak.&#8221; His verdict was in Wednesday&#8217;s Personal Technology column. In <a href="http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20090311/a-stylus-for-the-iphone/">Mossberg&#8217;s Mailbox</a>, Walt answered questions about using a stylus with the iPhone and offered an explanation on how to change Apple&#8217;s Safari 4 beta so that it looks and works more like the previous version. And in this week&#8217;s Mossberg Solution, Katie Boehret took a look at <a href="http://solution.allthingsd.com/20090310/app-aims-to-up-social-status-of-some-basic-cellphones/">iSkoot&#8217;s Notifier</a>, an app designed to endow basic cellphones with smartphone-like capabilities.</p>
<p>More next week. And <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090313-ides-of-march-facts.html">beware the Ides of March</a>. <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8899367">Or not</a>.</p>
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		<title>Boxee CEO Avner Ronen Gets a Crash Course in the TV Business</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first met Avner Ronen two months ago, the Israeli entrepreneur was basking in buzz. Now his Web video start-up has gotten a sobering dose of reality from the television establishment, courtesy of NBC and Fox. But Ronen still thinks he can get big TV, and big cable, to play along with him. He has a persuasive case.]]></description>
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<p>When <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090112/boxee-webtv-that-makes-sense-is-that-good-or-bad-for-big-cable/">I first met Avner Ronen in January</a>, the Boxee CEO was beaming. His Web video company was one of the breakout hits at the Consumer Electronics Show.</p>
<p>But when I had lunch with Ronen yesterday, he was much more subdued. Going head-to-head against the TV establishment can take the wind out of you.</p>
<p>In the span of two months, Boxee has gone from obscure start-up to an irritant or worse for the TV business. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s because Boxee, which makes it easy to sort and play video you grab from the Web, symbolizes a real threat for the established players: That one day, many consumers will consume most of their TV via video they find on the Web. And then they&#8217;ll cut TV networks and cable operators out of the picture.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a long way from happening, but just the notion of it seemed to be enough for GE&#8217;s (GE) NBC and News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) Fox, which apparently forced their Hulu joint venture <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">to stop working with Boxee last month</a>. </p>
<p>Now Hulu and Boxee are in a cat-and-mouse game, whereby <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090306/boxee-big-media-gets-it-but-not-fast-enough-so-heres-a-hulu-hack/">Boxee&#8217;s engineers try to find ways to get Hulu&#8217;s stuff onto their browsers</a> and the <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090306/hulu-brushes-off-boxee-and-boxee-comes-back-for-more/">Hulu guys try to stop them</a>. (News Corp. is the owner of Dow Jones, which owns this Web site.)</p>
<p>Ronen isn&#8217;t optimistic that this is going to change anytime soon. He also says the past few months have taught him how little he knew about the media business prior to starting Boxee in 2007. Had he known how entrenched and complicated the relationships between broadcasters, programmers, cable networks and cable operators are, he says, he might never have tried to get the company going.</p>
<p>But Ronen still figures he&#8217;ll thrive in the long run. He notes that some big media companies that aren&#8217;t NBC and Fox&#8211;Netflix (NFLX) and Disney&#8217;s (DIS) ABC, for instance&#8211;have been happy to work with Boxee, or at least not to complain about the service.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let him explain why, and lay out Boxee&#8217;s future plans (which included a beta launch this summer and Boxee-enabled devices next year) in this video interview.</p>
<p>And if, like me, you&#8217;re going to be in Austin for South By Southwest on Saturday, you can ask him yourself, at a <a href="http://sxsw.mobi/interactive/conference/panels_schedule/?action=show&amp;id=IAP0900496">panel discussion</a> where he&#8217;ll share the stage with College Humor&#8217;s Ricky Van Veen and B.J. Novak of &#8220;The Office.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Hulu Brushes Off Boxee, and Boxee Comes Back for More</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just in case anyone was wondering: Hulu, the Web video service that lets you watch Fox and NBC shows on your computer, really doesn't want you to plug that computer into your TV. And Boxee, a start-up that makes it easy for you to plug your computer into your TV so you can watch Web video, doesn't care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-5000" title="fight" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/03/fight.jpg" alt="fight" width="177" height="250" />Just in case anyone was wondering: Hulu, the Web video service that lets you watch Fox and NBC shows on your computer, really doesn&#8217;t want you to plug that computer into your TV.</p>
<p>And Boxee, a start-up that makes it easy for you to plug your computer into your TV so you can watch Web video, doesn&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>Got it?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where we are: Early this morning, <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090306/boxee-big-media-gets-it-but-not-fast-enough-so-heres-a-hulu-hack/">Boxee rolled out a workaround</a> that let Boxee users watch Hulu shows again, which they haven&#8217;t been able to do since last month when <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">Hulu pulled its shows off Boxee&#8217;s browser</a>. Late this afternoon, Hulu squelched that workaround.</p>
<p>And as of now (8:51 p.m. EST), Boxee CEO Avner Ronen tells me, his team has made another series of tweaks that will let you watch Hulu shows on Boxee yet again. Ronen says he&#8217;s not quite sure about the technical details, but argues that his service has every right to let you watch Hulu on your television, since Hulu is a free Web service that anyone (in the U.S.) can access.</p>
<p>But he is sorry that he&#8217;s now playing cat-and-mouse with Hulu, a joint venture between GE&#8217;s (GE) NBC and News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) Fox. &#8220;It&#8217;s not a very productive way to spend our time,&#8221; Ronen says. (News Corp is the owner of Dow Jones, which owns this Web site.)</p>
<p>Confused? There&#8217;s more background <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090306/boxee-big-media-gets-it-but-not-fast-enough-so-heres-a-hulu-hack/">here</a> and <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">here</a><a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/03/06/the-trials-and-tribulations-of-innovation/"></a>. But the important takeaway is that Hulu, or more accurately, Hulu&#8217;s TV progammer owners, are signaling to <em>their</em> partners&#8211;the big cable companies&#8211;that they&#8217;re willing to pull back on Web access to their shows. And Boxee, which has $4 million in financing from Union Square Ventures and Spark Capital, is signaling that it&#8217;s willing to dig in and fight.</p>
<p>[Image credit: Library of Congress via <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2163037373/">Flickr</a>] </p>
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		<title>Boxee: Big Media "Gets It," but Not Fast Enough. So Here's a Hulu Hack.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last month, Hulu yanked its content off of Boxee, the buzzy start-up that makes it easy to get Web video from your PC to your TV. Today, Hulu's stuff is back on Boxee, but without Hulu's permission. A victory for technology in the battle against dated business models and walled gardens? Sort of. But not a resounding one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-4399" title="larry-the-cable-guy" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/larry-the-cable-guy.jpg" alt="larry-the-cable-guy" width="200" height="199" />Last month, <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/did-big-cable-force-hulu-off-boxee/">Hulu yanked its content off of Boxee</a>, the buzzy start-up that makes it easy to get Web video from your PC to your TV. Today, Hulu&#8217;s stuff is back on Boxee, but without Hulu&#8217;s permission.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because Boxee has rolled out a software upgrade that lets users grab most any video that&#8217;s syndicated via RSS. So as long as Hulu, a joint venture between GE&#8217;s (GE) NBC and News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) Fox, pushes out its content using that open feed, you&#8217;ll be able to get it onto Boxee. (News Corp. is the owner of Dow Jones, which owns this Web site.)</p>
<p>A victory for technology in the battle against dated business models and walled gardens? Sort of. But not a resounding one.</p>
<p>The point of Boxee was to make getting video to your big screen easy and seamless, and this RSS end-run doesn&#8217;t do that. If Boxee is going to succeed as a mass-market play, it needs to be plug-and-play simple&#8211;otherwise, there are plenty of other clunky ways for users to get Web video on TV.</p>
<p>The good news, says Boxee CEO Avner Ronen in a <a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/">blog post</a>, is that big media are not a faceless monolith that hate their customers:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;While we don’t come from an entertainment or cable background, we are learning quickly. It is a complex business. our meetings with Hulu and their content providers reinforced that point. The fact that it’s becoming easy to consume Internet video on a TV brings into question many of the industry’s business models that developed before the Web. That’s part of the reason why Hulu asked to be removed from boxee. Our meetings over the past week weren’t able to change that. But the people in the industry &#8216;get it&#8217;. They are users. They read the blogs. They talk with users. They are trying to adjust to a new reality, but they need time.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The bad news: The TV guys aren&#8217;t in a hurry. For them, Boxee is bit player in a much more important drama&#8211;high-stakes negotiations that pit TV and cable networks against cable operators.</p>
<p>Right now, for instance, NBC Universal is renegotiating its carriage agreements with Comcast (CMCSA), the country&#8217;s biggest cable operator, which will determine how much Comcast pays NBCU for the rights to its programming. (Answer: A lot).</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t get the impression that Comcast is terrified of a wave of Boxee users dumping their cable subscriptions to watch TV via broadband. But they&#8217;re certainly happy to use Boxee&#8217;s existence as a bargaining chip with NBC, which may or may not be why Hulu ended up pulling its stuff off of Boxee.</p>
<p>Either way, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see the Hulu/Boxee situation left unresolved until NBC finishes up its talks, which could take a while.</p>
<p>But if I were the TV guys, I wouldn&#8217;t wait too long: The longer they keep their stuff off of legal Web services, the more incentive they give Web surfers to try out illegal ones. Just ask the people who made pirate site <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090303/hollywoods-napster-moment-arrives-courtesy-of-megavideo/?mod=ATD_search">MegaVideo.com the 10th most popular video site</a>.</p>
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		<title>Did Big Cable Force Hulu Off Boxee?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who's pushing Hulu to stop putting its movies and TV shows on Boxee, the nifty, free Web video service? Here's a theory: Perhaps it was your cable company, which has the most to lose from a free, nifty Web video service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-4399" title="larry-the-cable-guy" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/02/larry-the-cable-guy.jpg" alt="larry-the-cable-guy" width="250" height="249" />Why is Hulu shutting down its feed to <a href="http://www.boxee.tv/">Boxee</a>, the buzzy service that makes it really easy to watch Internet video on your TV?</p>
<p>As in the day&#8217;s other Hulu news&#8211;<a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090218/why-did-hulu-disappear-from-cbss-tvcom-because-it-can/?mod=RSSad">when the service pulled its video feed from CBS&#8217;s TV.com</a>&#8211;Hulu is being vague about what happened. But at least the company is being apologetic about it.</p>
<p>Hulu CEO Jason Kilar has an <a href="http://blog.hulu.com/2009/2/18/doing-hard-things">extensive, thoughtful blog post</a> explaining that he&#8217;s doing this at the behest of unnamed &#8220;content owners&#8221;&#8211;and acknowledging that the move sucks for Boxee&#8217;s small but ardent user base. <a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/02/18/the-hulu-situation/">Boxee CEO Avner Ronen has his own post</a>, in which he explains that he&#8217;s been pleading with Hulu for the past two weeks to keep working with his company.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m speculating here. But I&#8217;ve got a good hunch why the unnamed content owners&#8211;recall that Hulu&#8217;s JV partners, News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) Fox and GE&#8217;s (GE) NBC, are also the site&#8217;s two biggest content owners&#8211;pushed Hulu to drop Boxee: They did so because the big cable companies want them to. (News Corp. is the owner of Dow Jones, which owns this Web site.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because, as I noted before, <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090112/boxee-webtv-that-makes-sense-is-that-good-or-bad-for-big-cable/">it&#8217;s the cable TV providers that have the most to lose from cable bypass plays like Boxee</a>: If you can get all the movies, TV shows and other content you want for free on the Web, why are you paying Comcast (CMCSA) or Time Warner Cable (TWC) for a cable TV subscription?</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a theoretical problem: Compensation for Web programming weighed heavily in the <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081231/why-the-web-matters-in-the-viacomtime-warner-fight/">December dispute between Viacom (VIA) and Time Warner Cable</a>. One of Time Warner Cable&#8217;s complaints was that it was paying Viacom for programming Viacom was also running on the Web, without getting a cut of any of the revenue the cable network made.</p>
<p>And last month executives from a major cable network told me they had no intention of putting most of their programming on the Web. That&#8217;s because they&#8217;d been told by their cable partners, who pay them a hefty fee for each subscriber that gets their shows, that putting that same stuff on the Internet was a lousy idea.</p>
<p>When I talked to Ronen about this impending showdown with the cable guys last month, he essentially shrugged (see video below): The cable guys are going to get passed over whether they like it or not, he said, so if they&#8217;re smart they&#8217;ll figure out a way to participate. Maybe. But I wondered aloud if they might not try flexing their considerable muscles instead. And perhaps that&#8217;s just what happened.</p>
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		<title>Boxee: WebTV That Makes Sense. Is That Good or Bad for Big Cable?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don't want the Web on my big screen TV. I do want easy access to Web video, though--especially stuff like Hulu and Netflix on Demand. Enter Boxee, and cue worried cable execs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/01/time-cover.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-3058" title="time-cover" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/01/time-cover.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="263" /></a>This year&#8217;s Consumer Electronic Show, like every year&#8217;s CES, was peppered with big talk about merging your PC and your TV, led by a <a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20090109/jerry-yang-and-sue-decker-talk-about-yahoos-connected-tv-at-ces/">new widget initiative</a> from Yahoo (YHOO). And my reaction was the same one I have every year: Why?</p>
<p>No need to go on about my lack of interest in this forced marriage, which the consumer electronics business has been trying to make work for more than a decade (see the 1993 Time cover to the right). Slate&#8217;s Farhad Manjoo has done it for me. If you&#8217;re pressed for time, the title will do: <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2208222/">&#8220;I don&#8217;t want my Web TV.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I <em>do</em> want: The ability to use my TV to watch all the great video the Web makes available&#8211;actual TV shows and movies like &#8220;The Office&#8221; on Hulu, &#8220;Lost&#8221; on ABC.com, &#8220;No Country For Old Men&#8221; on Netflix&#8217;s (NFLX) on-demand service. Which is where <a href="http://boxee.tv/">Boxee</a> comes in.</p>
<p>The New York-based start-up makes elegant software that cobbles together offerings from all of those services, plus many more&#8211;with whatever media you have stored on your hard drive&#8211;and serves it up to you on your big screen, with a minimum of fuss. Right now it&#8217;s a niche product&#8211;it only works on PCs running Linux, or Apple&#8217;s (AAPL) Mac mini and AppleTV boxes&#8211;but that should change soon.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s slick stuff, and when you get a chance to watch it in action, it&#8217;s the first time that all those anecdotal stories about people dropping their cable TV subscriptions and just watching Internet video finally make sense: Why pay for cable stations you don&#8217;t want when you can watch just about everything you do want, on demand, for free?</p>
<p>This is also why I&#8217;m not sure how long the big cable companies will allow Boxee to operate unfettered. As the recent <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081231/why-the-web-matters-in-the-viacomtime-warner-fight/">dispute between Time Warner Cable (TWC) and Viacom</a> (VIA) illustrates, the cable operators are increasingly dismayed about paying the cable networks big fees for their content, only to find them giving it away online. And with Boxee providing customers with a real opportunity to drop cable TV in favor of a broadband connection, I worry that it&#8217;s a matter of time before they find some way to throttle the company.</p>
<p>Technically, the cable guys (and the telcos, who are also in the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200901121209DOWJONESDJONLINE000437_FORTUNE5.htm">TV business</a>) aren&#8217;t supposed to be able to do anything about Boxee. They&#8217;re just supposed to act as a dumb pipe serving up high-speed Internet access and keep their mouths shut. In the real world, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s going to fly. See: The many <a href="http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/08/comcast-twitter.html">bandwidth caps</a> the cable guys are starting to experiment with, which are aimed at heavy Web video users.</p>
<p>Boxee founder Avner Ronen disagrees, of course. He thinks the cable guys will want to work with his company (he plans to make money by licensing his software to gadget makers and extracting fees from content providers like Netflix, but that&#8217;s all down the line). And maybe he&#8217;s right: When I dropped by his CES booth on Friday, he was being swarmed by emissaries from <a href="http://www.cablelabs.com/">CableLabs</a>, the cable guys&#8217; tech consortium. They were the third group of cable execs to visit the company that day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let Ronen make his case in the video below; and I&#8217;ve also included a brief demo video from the company. But that clip doesn&#8217;t really do Boxee justice. Ask one of the 100,000 super-early adopters who are using the software themselves. Or any of the nervous cable guys who saw it last week.</p>
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<a href="http://vimeo.com/2010794">quick intro to boxee</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/boxee">boxee</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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