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		<title>Kara Visits Founders Fund&#039;s Peter Thiel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What can we say about investor Peter Thiel, when it is much better to listen to him talk? Here&#8217;s a longish video I made at Thiel&#8217;s office on San Francisco&#8217;s Presidio (no Sand Hill Road mundanity for Peter!) yesterday with the man who has become Silicon Valley&#8217;s most interesting venture capitalist and all-around great character [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can we say about investor Peter Thiel, when it is much better to listen to him talk?</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a longish video I made at Thiel&#8217;s office on San Francisco&#8217;s Presidio (no Sand Hill Road mundanity for Peter!) yesterday with the man who has become Silicon Valley&#8217;s most interesting venture capitalist and all-around great character of late.</p>
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<p>Now running the VC firm called the <a href="http://thefoundersfund.com">Founders Fund</a>, as well as a hedge fund called <a href="http://clariumcapital.com/">Clarium Capital Management</a>, Thiel has a lot to say about everything from the painfully slow decline of old media (likening them to train companies in a plane world!) to the underhyping of Web 2.0 companies like Facebook (a 10-times-10 valuation from its current $15 billion if the hot social network, in which he was the first investor, keeps up its torrid pace of growth!) to the state of venture capital (needs a shake-up!).</p>
<p>My favorite quote from the interview comes from Thiel right at the end: &#8220;There&#8217;s absolutely no bubble in technology.&#8221;</p>
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<p>This is Thiel&#8217;s Web 2.0 version of the infamous quote from Web 1.0 uber-VC John Doerr, who said at the height of the last bubble that the Internet was then &#8220;underhyped&#8221; (which turned out to be pretty accurate overall, except to investors who lost their shirts in the bust).</p>
<p>The Stanford undergraduate and law school grad is in many ways a breath of fresh air for Silicon Valley&#8211;an entrepreneur (he was co-founder and CEO of PayPal, which he flipped to eBay in 2002 for $1.5 billion and personally pocketed $55 million in the transaction), a center square of a new kind of VC keiretsu (ex-PayPalers have their mitts in everything from Facebook to YouTube to Slide and more) and, best of all, someone willing to say deliciously wild things (he&#8217;s essentially John Doerr unplugged).</p>
<p>Such as this year when, in a widely read interview with the Deal in July, Thiel floated a massive figure for the valuation of Facebook, on whose three-person board he serves with founder Mark Zuckerberg and Accel Partners&#8217; Jim Breyer.</p>
<p>&#8220;If we got an offer from someone for $10 billion, we probably would listen to them,&#8221; said Thiel to <a href="http://www.thedeal.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=NYT&#038;c=TDDArticle&#038;cid=1183754902401">the Deal&#8217;s David Shabelman</a>. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to get that offer, and we&#8217;re not going to solicit it.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was a stunningly brash statement at the time, given that Thiel had initially invested $500,000 in 2004 in the company, which was followed by two more rounds, for a total of about $32 million overall by Founders Fund, Accel and others.</p>
<p>The last one was more than a year ago for $25 million, giving Facebook a $525 million pre-money valuation.</p>
<p>Except that changed last week when software giant Microsoft forked over an investment that put Facebook&#8217;s number at $15 billion and made Founders Fund&#8217;s 5% stake worth $750 million, at least on paper. (One has to wonder, of course, how Thiel is now hedging his bet to lock in that obscene gain.)</p>
<p>In any case, that deal is just the kind of capitalist development a political libertarian like Thiel would savor. And he clearly does.</p>
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