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		<title>An Indie Label Sounds Off: Why We Don't Love Grooveshark</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a big music label sues a scrappy Web music start-up, most people tend to sympathize reflexively with the little guy. But not everyone. Here's the case against Grooveshark--not from EMI, which has hauled them into court, but from an indie that by all rights ought to be working with Grooveshark: "The service is just ripping off the band."]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/06/busker.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-8327" title="busker" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/06/busker-250x187.jpg" alt="busker" width="250" height="187" /></a>When a big music label sues a scrappy Web music start-up, most people tend to sympathize reflexively with the little guy. But not everyone.</p>
<p>My story about <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090617/another-music-startup-sued-emi-takes-grooveshark-to-court/">EMI&#8217;s lawsuit against Web music start-up Grooveshark </a>elicited this email from Ben Patterson, who runs indie Web music distributor <a href="http://www.dashgo.com/login">DashGo</a>, about his experience with the service.</p>
<p>I think Patterson&#8217;s remarks are useful because they spell out Grooveshark&#8217;s business plan, or at least part of it: Charge labels to promote their acts on the service&#8217;s search engine. And I think it&#8217;s also helpful to hear an obvious but little-voiced argument about the &#8220;free Web music = valuable promotion&#8221; thesis: It works best when the act or label is playing along. With Ben&#8217;s permission, I&#8217;m publishing his entire email.</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>I&#8217;ll caveat this by saying they are nice guys and big music fans and I&#8217;m always rooting for new music services that work for bands and music fans alike.</p>
<p>Back in 2007 DashGo signed a deal with Grooveshark that basically amounted to a digital download service delivered via P2P. Users who used Grooveshark&#8217;s P2P service to search for songs would be presented with a download / buy link and the revenue would be split between fan hosting the file, Grooveshark and the band.</p>
<p>A couple months later we got a nice packet&#8211;a t-shirt, letter and wax-sealed, yes, wax-sealed, envelope with a check for $0.59 in royalties. (<a href=".http://www.myspace.com/coconutrecords">Coconut Records &#8220;West Coast&#8221;</a> I think)</p>
<p>Then I didn&#8217;t hear much for 6 months. No checks, no real action. At the end of 2008, they reached out and told me about their new music search engine at listen.grooveshark.com&#8211;basically Seeqpod / Songza / all other stream song aggregators&#8230;not what we licensed for, but not egregious enough to get huffy.</p>
<p>Of course, that was before they offered to sell me advertising for my bands as the default search keyword. For $0.05 per search, I could make the default phrase &#8220;DashGo Band Name&#8221; instead of &#8220;Search here.&#8221; I had to ask&#8211;am I getting paid per play? No of course not. Because &#8220;[they] are not profitable and can&#8217;t afford to share that advertising revenue.&#8221; So I&#8217;m paying, not even for a play, but for a search term on a service where they have users and can sell ads ONLY because people can listen to music, and because it&#8217;s free, what incentive is there EVER to buy the song?</p>
<p>So we don&#8217;t deliver there anymore.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you why all these free streaming music services are broken&#8211;because they rely on music advertising to pay the rent but give away the advertisers product. If I got free McDonald&#8217;s and Budweiser by watching the Super Bowl, why would I buy the food? As an advertiser, why would I pay a CPC to advertise streaming music and promote listens when the per stream rate a existing subscription services is AT BEST $0.02 per play?</p>
<p>It sucks to get sued. I&#8217;m sorry Grooveshark, but really..what did you expect? You&#8217;re soliciting labels and bands to pay your bandwidth, rent and operating costs and giving away the product.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve got this soapbox out, let me preach one more gospel; offering free music accessible via a search engine is NOT promotional if the band hasn&#8217;t opted in.</p>
<p>If a user SEARCHES for the music and listens to it for free in an environment where someone ELSE has posted the music and the band doesn&#8217;t have the option to ask for an email address or even pitch a tour or merch or actual album; then the service is just ripping off the band by giving free content to someone who asked for it&#8211;not promoting it to a new fan or adding a filter that helps expose and distinguish music.</p></blockquote>
<p>[<em>Image credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrs_logic/2981022170/">Mrs. Logic</a></em>] </p>
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