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		<title>"Girls Around Me" App Maker: We Pulled Out of iTunes, but We Didn't Do Anything Wrong</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I-Free's argument: We couldn't have built this thing without the data that Foursquare and Facebook gave us. Also, please don't call us stalkers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/04/girls-around-me.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-191854" title="girls around me" src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/04/girls-around-me-380x252.png" alt="" width="380" height="252" /></a>You can&#8217;t get &#8220;Girls Around Me&#8221; from Apple&#8217;s iTunes store anymore, and the company behind the app says it took it out voluntarily.</p>
<p>Sort of.</p>
<p>Russian developer <a href="http://www.i-free.com/">i-Free Innovations</a> says it yanked &#8220;Girls Around Me,&#8221; which was supposed to let users learn about/track down women in their area, because it didn&#8217;t work anymore.</p>
<p>The app was supposed to mash up data from Foursquare, Facebook and Google Maps. But <a href="http://www.cultofmac.com/157793/foursquare-kills-api-access-to-creepy-stalking-app-girls-around-me-exclusive/">Foursquare had cut off access to its data</a> after tech blog <a href="http://www.cultofmac.com/157641/this-creepy-app-isnt-just-stalking-women-without-their-knowledge-its-a-wake-up-call-about-facebook-privacy/">Cult of Mac</a> first raised privacy concerns about the app.</p>
<p>But i-Free also insists that it wasn&#8217;t doing anything wrong &#8212; all of the data it was serving up to its users was publicly available stuff, provided voluntarily by Facebook and Foursquare users.</p>
<p>Whether those users really understood how publicly available this data is debatable, and it&#8217;s stories like this that are going to make that debate more urgent.</p>
<p>For now, here&#8217;s the full text of i-Free&#8217;s statement, via <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/03/31/girls-around-me-developer-defends-app-after-foursquare-dismissal/?mod=WSJBlog&amp;mod=">The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s Digits blog</a>:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>Girls Around Me app was designed to make geo-social exploration of popular venues easy and visual.</p>
<p>We follow the geo-social trend for mobile devices that is supported by numerous location sharing services, networks and apps. Many other mobile apps provide the same or more extended functionality using location data provided by APIs of major social networks, i.e. Ban.jo or Sonar.</p>
<p>Girls Around Me does not allow anonymous usage of the app. It is impossible to search for a particular person in this app, or track his|her location. The app just allows the user to browse the venues nearby, as if you passed by and looked in the window. The Girls Around Me user has to be registered in Foursquare and must be logged in this service to be able to see anything in Girls Around Me. The app Girls Around Me does not have access to user login and password, authentication is carried out on the social network side. Girls Around Me shows to the user only the data that is available to him or her through his or her accounts in Foursquare, and gives the user nothing more than Foursquare app can provide itself (when you browse venues around you in Foursquare, you can see how many people checked in there and you can see their profiles and photos, even contacts and social networks profile). The aim of the app is to make the usage of this data more convenient and more focused on finding popular and crowded venues.</p>
<p>Girls Around Me has no ability to change, limit or expand information that is available to the user through his or her account in social network. Girls Around Me does not use any self-developed or third party services to search for extra information apart from the information the users share with others. Girls Around Me does not put together data from different social networks.</p>
<p>The Facebook accounts shown as available to send a message are the accounts that Foursquare users make public in their profiles. Girls Around Me does not allow anonymous usage of the messaging service. We made it perfectly clear that any personal message can only be sent from the user’s account in Facebook (if he or she has one), and it can be done only if messaging is allowed by privacy settings of the recipient user.</p>
<p>The app was out for several months already and has not been promoted in order to first to receive user feedback and address privacy concerns, if necessary. Girls Around Me was downloaded more than 70 000 times. Since the app’s launch we’ve seen numerous positive comments from users who claimed that the app helped them to discover “hot spots” – venues that are popular among girls or boys. Since the apps launch till last Friday nobody ever raised a privacy concern because, again, it is clearly stated that Girls Around Me cannot show the user more data than social network already does.</p>
<p>We understand that privacy is a serious matter. We were planning to continue developing the app and limit it to showing only public places and venues. We understand that user generated data might not reflect the real public or private user space (a user can indicate his private space as public and vice versa), but we intended to bring our best effort to work on the available APIs to develop filters to limit user access only to public venues shared by other users.</p>
<p>We are absolutely convinced that it is good and important to educate the users to take care of their privacy and what they share publicly. But we believe it is unethical to pick a scapegoat to talk about the privacy concerns. We see this wave of negative as a serious misunderstanding of the apps’ goals, purpose, abilities and restrictions. Girls Around Me does not provide any data that is unavailable to user when he uses his or her social network account, nor does it reveal any data that users did not share with others. The app was intended for facilitating discovering of great public venues nearby. The app was designed to make it easier for a user to step out of door and hang out in the city, find people with common interests and new places to go to.</p>
<p>We have removed the application from the iTunes Store, because the users get repetitive error message, and we feel that until we find a solution and be able to provide full service, we should restrain from acquiring new users. We shall put our best effort to support the apps existing users and address their concerns.</p>
<p>We are working on providing all necessary comments and data to prove our good intentions. We were (and are) making our best efforts to develop an app that fits user expectations without going beyond the restrictions of social networks.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>QOTD: Sculley on Steve Jobs and Success by Design</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Murrell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;The thing that separated Steve Jobs from other people like Bill Gates&#8211;Bill was brilliant too, but Bill was never interested in great taste. He was always interested in being able to dominate a market. He would put out whatever he had to put out there to own that space. Steve would never do that. Steve [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;The thing that separated Steve Jobs from other people like Bill Gates&#8211;Bill was brilliant too, but Bill was never interested in great taste. He was always interested in being able to dominate a market. He would put out whatever he had to put out there to own that space. Steve would never do that. Steve believed in perfection&#8230;.When I think about different kinds of CEOs&#8211;CEOs who are great leaders, CEOs who are great turnaround artists, great deal negotiators, great people motivators&#8211;but the great skill that Steve has is he’s a great designer. Everything at Apple can be best understood through the lens of designing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8211; <a href="http://www.cultofmac.com/john-sculley-on-steve-jobs-the-full-interview-transcript/63295">John Sculley</a>, one-time CEO of Apple, offers his insights into the secrets of Steve Jobs&#8217;s success in a long interview with &#8220;Cult of Mac&#8221; author Leander Kahney.</p>
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		<title>Steve Jobs on Why Facebook Is Not Part of Apple&#039;s New Ping Music Social Network: &quot;Onerous Terms&quot;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, at the Apple music event in San Francisco, I had a short chat with Apple CEO Steve Jobs about its new social music service, called Ping.

Essentially, it is a vertical version--in this case for music--of Facebook.

But, except for Apple borrowing the blue color scheme from the powerful social networking site, Facebook is nowhere on Ping.

So, Jobs explained why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2010/09/z206305980-275x276.jpg" alt="" title="z206305980" width="250" height="250" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-33274" /></p>
<p>Yesterday, at <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100901/apple-music-event-2010/">the Apple music event in San Francisco</a>, I had a short chat with Apple CEO Steve Jobs as he strolled through the demo room for the media, just after he had announced various updates for the iPod, Apple TV and iTunes onstage.</p>
<p>One of the those was the introduction of a new social network for music called Ping that Apple (AAPL) has integrated within iTunes 10 and which looks an awful lot like the experience you get on Facebook.</p>
<p>Essentially, it is a vertical version&#8211;in this case for music&#8211;of the powerful social networking site.</p>
<p>Facebook has noodled for years about creating its own social music offering, including doing a partnership with Lala, which <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20091204/confirmed-apple-in-talks-to-buy-music-service-lala-com">was bought by Apple last year</a> and <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20100601/apple-pulls-the-plug-on-lala-replaces-it-with-nothing">shuttered in June</a>.</p>
<p>But its efforts have largely gone nowhere.</p>
<p>And Facebook is nowhere on Ping, either. Currently, there is no linking, sharing or participation of any kind with Facebook&#8211;or Twitter or MySpace&#8211;on Ping, which will work only on the iTunes software on computers, iPhones and iPods.</p>
<p>When I asked Jobs about that, he said Apple had indeed held talks with Facebook about a variety of unspecified partnerships related to Ping, but the discussions went nowhere.</p>
<p>The reason, according to Jobs: Facebook wanted &#8220;onerous terms that we could not agree to,&#8221; related to connecting with Facebook friends on Ping.</p>
<p>For those who are struck by the word, the definition of onerous, <a href="http://www.google.com/dictionary?q=onerous&#038;langpair=en|en&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=am1_TMODH4L4swP2kfn7BA&#038;ved=0CBUQmwMoAA">according to an online dictionary</a>: &#8220;Involving an amount of effort and difficulty that is oppressively burdensome; Involving heavy obligations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jobs did not elaborate on those troublesome terms and also would not say if Ping would incorporate connecting with Facebook or even using Facebook Connect&#8211;which would make it much easier to find friends to share music with.</p>
<p>&#8220;We could, I guess,&#8221; he shrugged.</p>
<p>And when I asked how to find friends, Jobs offered, noting iTunes had 160 million users across the globe: &#8220;You can type their names into search or send them emails inviting them to join.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, although being more open would work too!</p>
<p>As <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20100901/apple-debuts-facebooks-new-music-service-that-doesnt-run-on-facebook/">MediaMemo&#8217;s Peter Kafka noted</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe Apple plans on joining the rest of the Web, via an open API that will let Facebook, Twitter et al&#8211;maybe even the to-be-launched Google (GOOG) music service&#8211;play nicely with Ping. We’ll see.&#8221;</p>
<p>Facebook&#8211;including some execs who are definitely irked about how closely Ping resembles Facebook, right down to the blue color scheme&#8211;hopes so.</p>
<p>Consider the statement issued by Facebook to me&#8211;after attempts to get it verbally failed, due ironically to several dropped connections on the iPhone of the exec I spoke to:<br />
<img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2010/09/zing-257x300.jpg" alt="" title="zing" width="257" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-33290" /></p>
<p>&#8220;Facebook believes in connecting people with their interests and we&#8217;ve partnered with innovative developers around the world who share this vision. Facebook and Apple have cooperated successfully in the past to offer people great social experiences and we look forward to doing so in the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words: <em>Zing</em>, Ping.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Oddly enough, a Facebook connection feature appeared to be in Ping when some signed up&#8211;not for me&#8211;as noted by <a href="http://www.cultofmac.com/itunes-ping-and-facebook-whats-going-on/57594">Cult of Mac</a>. And <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/if-apple-cant-deal-with-facebooks-onerous-terms-for-ping-why-is-it-in-apples-keynote-screenshots-2010-9">Silicon Alley Insider&#8217;s Dan Frommer</a> even spotted the wording in Jobs&#8217;s stage presentation. I have an email into Apple PR asking for a comment on the change.</p>
<p>In any case, at the Apple event, Jobs told me he had great hopes for the social music service, adding that Ping could be the most significant thing to come out of yesterday&#8217;s announcements.</p>
<p>But soon enough he moved right on to the new iPods, declaring enthusiastically: &#8220;Isn&#8217;t the nano amazing?&#8221;</p>
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