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		<title>Verizon iPhone Lines Inversely Proportional to Verizon iPhone Rumors</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paczkowski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the nearly interminable buildup to the iPhone’s launch on Verizon–the years of anticipation, rumors and speculation–you’d think eager buyers would be camping out in front of their local Apple Store and that Verizon stores would literally be overrun with frustrated AT&#038;T iPhone users looking for relief. But evidently that’s not the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2011/02/chrisbphoto-all-the-people-in-line-for-the-verizon-iphone.jpg"><img src="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2011/02/chrisbphoto-all-the-people-in-line-for-the-verizon-iphone-224x300.jpg" alt="" title="chrisbphoto-all-the-people-in-line-for-the-verizon-iphone" width="224" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-57554" /></a>After the nearly interminable buildup to the iPhone&#8217;s launch on Verizon&#8211;the years of anticipation, rumors and speculation&#8211;you&#8217;d think the device&#8217;s official debut would be given a fervid reception by the folks clamoring for it. You&#8217;d think eager buyers would be camping out in front of their local Apple Store. You&#8217;d think Verizon Stores would literally be overrun with  frustrated AT&#038;T iPhone users looking for relief.</p>
<p>But evidently that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
<p><a href="http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/20110204/verizons-iphone-sales-so-amazing-they-cant-even-put-a-number-on-it/">Pre-orders were huge</a>, of course, cutting down the need for people to go out to a store, so early reports from around the country revealed a far more sedate response to a long-awaited event that ironically <a href="http://news.cnet.com/2300-13579_3-10006585-2.html?tag=mncol">seems pretty uneventful</a>. Fifteen minutes before the the Verizon iPhone went on sale, there were just eight people in line at Apple&#8217;s flagship store in New York, <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/10/technology/verizon_iphone/index.htm">according to CNNMoney</a>. At a lower-Manhattan Verizon store, 21 people queued up to buy the iPhone.</p>
<p>The scene was <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/02/10/verizon.iphone.gets.mixed.queues/">largely the same around the country</a>, according to other reports: <a href="http://www.gainesville.com/article/20110210/ARTICLES/110219974/-1/news?Title=Many-brave-the-rain-in-Gainesville-for-Verizon-iPhone-release">20 folks at a Gainesville Verizon Store</a>, <a href="http://www.myplainview.com/news/article_36c33592-3527-11e0-9977-001cc4c03286.html">10 at another in Plainview</a>, <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/business/115717144.html">a dozen in Milwaukee</a>, <a href="http://journalstar.com/news/local/article_7642f025-3636-54cc-b25f-1de2d63f29a5.html">a &#8220;few dozen&#8221; in Lincoln, Neb.,</a>. And before you the blame cold temperatures for the modest turnout, consider this:  The line in front of Apple&#8217;s Stockton Street flagship store in San Francisco this morning was just two people long. <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20031276-266.html#ixzz1DZCURDYS">Said News.com&#8217;s Marguerite Reardon</a>, &#8220;Upon arriving here about five minutes (before the 7 a.m. opening of the store), there were literally more Apple Store employees, police officers and reporters&#8211;each&#8211;than people in line to buy iPhones.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, a pretty staid turnout for a device that&#8217;s generated such monomaniacal interest for so long. That said, it&#8217;s important to remember that Verizon isn&#8217;t launching the iPhone into a market with a vast untapped demand for it. In reality, most folks who absolutely had to have an iPhone bought one from AT&#038;T. And those who refused to leave Verizon to do so likely pre-ordered one last week. In the end, the lines (or lack thereof) we&#8217;re seeing today have very little to do with how big a seller the iPhone will be for Verizon (and for proof of that, one need only look to foreign markets with multiple iPhone carriers).  Sales estimates vary pretty widely, but <a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20110111/analysts-go-out-on-limb-predict-verizon-iphone-will-be-big-for-apple/">many suggest Apple will sell between 9 million and 13 million iPhones through Verizon this year</a>&#8211;a big boost no matter how you look at it. The big lines will return with the debut of iPhone 5.</p>
<p><strong>PREVIOUSLY:</strong> <a href="http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/20110204/verizons-iphone-sales-so-amazing-they-cant-even-put-a-number-on-it/">Verizon’s iPhone Sales So Amazing They Can’t Even Put a Number On It</a></p>
<p>[<em>Image Credit: <a href="http://twitpic.com/3yaxwx">Christine Bartolucci</a></em> ]</p>
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		<title>Another Music Start-Up Sued: EMI Takes Grooveshark to Court</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Digital music start-ups seem to come in two flavors these days: Those being sued by the major music labels and those with expensive licensing deals they can't afford.

But for some reason, plucky Grooveshark, which runs a very nice, free streaming music service, has stayed out of both of those buckets until now. I've confirmed that EMI Music Group is suing the site--whose motto is "Play any song in the world, for free!"--for copyright violation.]]></description>
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<p>Digital music start-ups seem to come in two flavors these days: Those being sued by the major music labels and those with  expensive licensing deals they can&#8217;t afford.</p>
<p>But for some reason, plucky <a href="http://listen.grooveshark.com/">Grooveshark</a>, which runs a very nice, free streaming music service, has stayed out of both of those buckets until now. I&#8217;ve confirmed that EMI Music Group is suing the site&#8211;whose motto is &#8220;Play any song in the world, for free!&#8221;&#8211;for copyright violation.</p>
<p>The label filed suit against Gainesville, Fla.-based Grooveshark in a New York court on May 8. I don&#8217;t have a copy of the complaint yet, but if you feel like sharing, hit me at <a href="mailto:peter@allthingsd.com">peter@allthingsd.com</a> or use the blind tip box <a href="http://allthingsd.com/tips/">here</a>. No comment from EMI, but Grooveshark sent me a very long statement, which I&#8217;ve printed at the bottom of the post.</p>
<p>The takeaway: Grooveshark says it was working on a licensing deal with EMI and now finds itself in court instead. The company does refer to deals with &#8220;many artists, labels and publishers,&#8221; but as far as I can tell, it doesn&#8217;t have deals with any of the other three majors&#8211;Warner Music Group (WMG), Universal Music Group, or Sony (SNE)&#8211;either.</p>
<p>Grooveshark started out as a peer-to-peer file-sharing start-up in 2006, and has since morphed into a streaming model. When I talked to marketing VP Joshua Bonnain in May, he told me the company was primarily funded by friends and family&#8211;most of the company&#8217;s employees are either students at or graduates of the University of Florida, he said. But he also said the company had received a &#8220;substantial investment from a large party&#8221; that he wouldn&#8217;t identify.</p>
<p>Bonnain said the site, which generates at least some ad revenue, planned on splitting half of it with the copyright owners of the music it played. But I was never clear about how that was going to work since Grooveshark doesn&#8217;t have deals with the majors. Then again, Bonnain didn&#8217;t tell me that the company had been sued a few days before we talked, either.</p>
<p>In the music world, negotiations don&#8217;t preclude suits and vice versa; Warner was, at one point, suing iMeem, but <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090615/exclusive-warner-music-group-gets-back-together-very-cautiously-with-imeem/">then became an investor in the site</a>. Same thing with Universal and News Corp.&#8217;s (NWS) MySpace. The only real question I&#8217;ve had is why the big guys haven&#8217;t gone after Grooveshark yet. I&#8217;ve been asking label folks about the start-up since November and I&#8217;ve only gotten shrugs for an answer.</p>
<p>Anyway, as I said, it&#8217;s very nice service, and it would be a shame if the labels can&#8217;t figure out a way to work with it or help it survive. But the odds of that happening, based on the unpleasant history of digital music start-ups to date, are very low. So enjoy this themed playlist I created with the site&#8217;s help, which features music from all four majors, while you can. Grooveshark&#8217;s statement is below.</p>
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<blockquote class="memo"><p>For the past year, Grooveshark has been in talks with EMI Records and other copyright holders to negotiate licensing agreements for the use of their content. We are pleased to announce that over the past few months Grooveshark successfully concluded mutually bene?cial agreements with many artists, labels, and publishers that we hope to be a template for other such agreements with additional copyright holders.</p>
<p>Recently, EMI Records chose to abandon the template we&#8217;ve built with the help of other major copyright holders and opted for their traditional intimidation tactic of ?ling a lawsuit as a negotiating tool. We ?nd the use of this negotiating strategy counterproductive, as Grooveshark has been willing to conclude an agreement with EMI Records that is economically sustainable for both EMI Records and a start-up company the size of Grooveshark.</p>
<p>Grooveshark is run by a group of young and passionate musicians. We love music, we make music, and we believe that the use of all music should be paid for. We adopted this core philosophy at our inception and to date have concluded agreements with hundreds of record labels, major US performance rights organizations, and thousands of independent artists who support Grooveshark&#8217;s business model. (See: Grooveshark Artists)</p>
<p>As musicians, we support the rights of copyright holders and strive to sign sustainable agreements with all content owners, ensuring that all artists get paid&#8211; or we agree to remove content from our system in accordance with our DMCA Takedown Policy. We hope that EMI Records eventually follows the lead of the many forward-thinking labels we are already working with, who would rather get their artists exposure and a fair share of our revenue than block content access and force customers to illegal networks.</p>
<p>We understand that the economy of the digital music business is in a state of ?ux, and we hope to help ease this transition by providing the required new tools and services that lead to the next generation of the music industry. We respect the ownership rights of the major labels and publishers, and our core mission has always been to compete with piracy by offering a service that is genuinely better than what illegal networks offer, while also ensuring fair payment to copyright holders. Our next important step on our road to success is to conclude a mutually bene?cial agreement with EMI Records that is sustainable for both EMI and Grooveshark.</p></blockquote>
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