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		<title>AP Exec: "To the Untrained Eye It Looks Like We're Stupid"</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It's been a bad week for the venerable news service aggregator, which seemed hell-bent on confusing everyone about its Internet strategy. Time to sit down with VP Jim Kennedy, who explains that the AP does indeed have a strategy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6185" title="newsies" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/04/newsies-194x300.jpg" alt="newsies" width="194" height="300" />Rough week for the Associated Press, at least if you measure it by headlines: First, the venerable news organization/aggregator <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090406/ap-shakes-fist-at-google-tells-internet-to-get-off-its-damn-lawn/">confused the likes of me</a> by announcing a vague plan to fight the Internet. Then it went ahead and confirmed everyone&#8217;s worst fears with a boneheaded attempt to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9YLkcJsoGk">stop someone from showing a YouTube clip it had already distributed</a>.</p>
<p>Time for some image repair, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>The AP is trying to do this at this very moment by distributing an <a href="http://www.ap.org/iprights/faqiprights.html">11-point FAQ</a> that attempts to clarify exactly what it&#8217;s thinking. But that document is still a little vague and overly formal. Good thing I got on the phone yesterday with the pleasant Jim Kennedy, who oversees strategic planning for the AP and who speaks in clear, concise English.</p>
<p>Much of what we talked about was a rehash of <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090406/ap-shakes-fist-at-google-tells-internet-to-get-off-its-damn-lawn/">what we talked about Monday afternoon</a>, when AP Chairman Dean Singleton first riled everyone up with his &#8220;mad as hell&#8221; speech. But given the rampant confusion of the past few days, I thought it was worth going over again. Some excerpts from our chat:</p>
<p><strong>On the AP&#8217;s plans to chase down people who &#8220;misappropriate&#8221; its content</strong>: Kennedy stresses that the news organization isn&#8217;t planning on creating a Wall Street Journal-style pay wall around its content. And it&#8217;s not concerned about bloggers who link to its stories. His beef is with sites that are reprinting AP&#8217;s stories on a regular basis without paying for them. &#8220;The activity that we&#8217;re trying to limit is the systematic harvesting of news without trying to license it,&#8221; he says. &#8220;The people who are building a business by taking the content and trying to recreate a news report. That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re trying to address. We&#8217;ve had success doing this.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>On the AP&#8217;s plan to promote its work more effectively</strong>. This has been construed in some quarters as a plan to create a search engine or news portal. But it&#8217;s really just an attempt to upgrade the AP&#8217;s search engine optimization strategy&#8211;that is, trying to get its stuff to show up higher on Google&#8217;s (GOOG) search results. It will do that via &#8220;search pages,&#8221; or &#8220;topic pages,&#8221; which are par for the course in the Web world. Check out this New York Times (NYT) page on <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/p/piracy_at_sea/index.html">Somali pirates</a>, or this Huffington Post page on <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/newspapers">newspapers</a>, and you&#8217;ll get an idea of where the AP is going.</p>
<p>If the search page plan works, the pages will be generating plenty of page views when people land on them, and it&#8217;s possible that the AP will sell ads on that inventory, Kennedy says. But their real function is to shuttle searchers to the original source material from the AP&#8217;s members.</p>
<p><strong>On the AP&#8217;s beef with Google:</strong> It&#8217;s real. But many of the stories published this week conflated the AP&#8217;s gripe-essentially, that it&#8217;s not getting paid enough by the search engine for the use of its content&#8211;with its saber-rattling against aggregators who aren&#8217;t paying the AP at all. The AP may indeed end up suing people in the latter group. But it plans on resolving its Google problem with a new contract that will replace the one that expires this year.</p>
<p>Kennedy is vague when it comes to specifics about the Google contract and what he&#8217;d like changed: &#8220;It&#8217;s just a reevaluation of the situation,&#8221; he says. But he&#8217;s clear that the company intends to keep working with the world&#8217;s largest Web site. &#8220;When we&#8217;re talking about Google, we&#8217;re talking about our future business relationship,&#8221; he says. &#8220;When we&#8217;re talking about misappropriation, we&#8217;re talking about people who have never contemplated a business relationship with us.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>On the confusing message that the AP presented to the world this week</strong>: Guilty as charged, says Kennedy. But he argues that his group has indeed given some thought to what it&#8217;s doing, even if it hasn&#8217;t communicated that clearly to date. &#8220;The future is going to be a lot different than the present and the past on the Internet, and we&#8217;re trying to get ready for that process,&#8221; he says. &#8220;To the untrained eye it looks like we&#8217;re stupid. But we&#8217;re looking forward to a totally new space where we have to get ready to do things in a totally different way. We&#8217;re trying to be smart business people and we&#8217;re trying to stay in business.&#8221;</p>
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