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		<title>Apple in iPhone Talks With Second Chinese Carrier?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paczkowski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple will sell somewhere between five and seven million iPhones in China in 2010, according to research house Broadpoint AmTech. But that’s assuming its distribution deal with China Unicom is exclusive. And according to Apple, it’s not. "I can confirm it is not an exclusive deal," an Apple spokesperson told Dow Jones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2009/08/chinaiphone-250x166.jpg" alt="chinaiphone" title="chinaiphone" width="250" height="166" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-24039" />Apple will sell somewhere between five and seven million iPhones in China in 2010, according to research house Broadpoint AmTech. But that’s assuming its distribution deal with China Unicom is exclusive. And according to Apple, it’s not. &#8220;I can confirm it is not an exclusive deal,&#8221; <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200908310510DOWJONESDJONLINE000066_FORTUNE5.htm">an Apple spokesperson told Dow Jones</a>.</p>
<p>Apple (AAPL) declined to say what other carriers the company might be talking to, but it’s a safe bet that if the company is in discussions with a second carrier, it’s China Mobile. After all, the two companies have talked about a deal before, and while those negotiations stumbled repeatedly over issues like revenue-sharing and hardware localization, it’s hard to believe that Apple would turn its back on the world’s largest wireless carrier.</p>
<p>There are 600 million cellphone users in China and 415 million of them are China Mobile subscribers. That’s a hell of an opportunity to pass up, no matter how difficult negotiating with the company might be.</p>
<p>According to China Mobile CEO Wang Jianzhou, Apple hasn’t passed it up. During the company’s quarterly earnings call on Aug. 20, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090820-703911.html">Jianzhou said specifically that talks between the two companies continue</a>. Just what they might involve is anyone’s guess, although Dan Butterfield at iPhonAsia speculates that they would likely be for an EDGE 2G-only version of iPhone.</p>
<p>&#8220;No matter the future of TD-SCDMA, China Mobile will maintain their EDGE 2G network, which has broad coverage and a clear signal throughout major urban zones in China,&#8221; <a href="http://iphonasia.com/?p=6171">Butterfield writes</a>. &#8220;In my view, EDGE 2G could be the bridge between Apple and China Mobile. There are hundreds of millions of low-salaried wireless consumers in China who aspire to iPhone. Many have in fact already purchased cheap Shanzhai (iClone) knock-offs. But Shanzhai iPhones are not reliable and quickly become landfill. A low-priced &#8216;real&#8217; Apple iPhone running EDGE 2G only, might sell by the tens of millions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>YouTube: The Money Pit</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Paczkowski</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s been well over two years since the $1.65 billion acquisition and Google has yet to truly monetize YouTube. To wit, a report this week from Credit Suisse that predicts YouTube will earn $240 million in revenue in 2009. Which wouldn’t be half bad were it not for the fact that YouTube is on track to lose $470 million in 2009.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Eventually we’d like to make money out of it.”</p>
<p>&#8211;<a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/26182232"> Google CEO Eric Schmidt on YouTube</a></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2009/04/hurley-chen-moneyjpg.jpeg" rel="lightbox"><img src="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2009/04/hurley-chen-moneyjpg-218x300.jpg" alt="hurley-chen-moneyjpg" title="hurley-chen-moneyjpg" width="218" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-16010" /></a>It’s been well over two years since the $1.65 billion acquisition and Google has yet to truly monetize YouTube. And while the company persists in claiming it has the “luxury of time” to develop the business model through which it will recoup its investment in the popular video site, it’s clear that time is running out.  To wit, <a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/04/03/given-youtube-losses-should-google-buy-twitter/">a report this week from Credit Suisse</a> that predicts YouTube will earn $240 million in revenue in 2009. Which wouldn&#8217;t be half bad were it not for the fact that <a href="http://www.multichannel.com/article/191223-YouTube_May_Lose_470_Million_In_2009_Analysts.php">YouTube is on track to lose $470 million in 2009</a>. The research house figures YouTube will rack up about $711 million in operating expenses this year&#8211;$360 million on bandwidth alone.</p>
<p>An unfortunate disparity, that. Is it one that can be corrected? Credit Suisse seems to think so. &#8220;In our view, the issue for YouTube going forward is to increase the percentage of its videos that can be monetized (likely through more deals with content companies) and to drive more advertiser demand through standardization of ad formats and improved ad effectiveness,&#8221; it explained in a research note. Of course, this is exactly what YouTube is doing. On Monday the company said it has agreed to <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/autoNews/idUKTRE52T7SL20090330">an ad revenue-sharing partnership with Disney</a> (DIS) that will see it putting ABC and ESPN videos on YouTube. A small first step, but one that could portend a trend. Especially, if as Google (GOOG) CEO Eric Schmidt says, the company hopes to eventually make money out of it.</p>
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		<title>AT&amp;T Renews Apple iPhone Deal; Confirms Subsidy Plan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Savitz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[AT&#038;T (T) today confirmed that it will be subsidizing customer purchases of the Apple (AAPL) iPhone 3G. The subsidies are going to hurt AT&#038;T&#8217;s 2008 and 2009 earnings; but at least AT&#038;T will remain the exclusive U.S. service provider for the phone. The company noted that the $199 price announced earlier today by Apple CEO [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&#038;T (T) today confirmed that it will be subsidizing customer purchases of the Apple (AAPL) iPhone 3G. The subsidies are going to hurt AT&#038;T&#8217;s 2008 and 2009 earnings; but at least AT&#038;T will remain the exclusive U.S. service provider for the phone.</p>
<p>The company noted that the $199 price announced earlier today by Apple CEO Steve Jobs will require a two-year contract. AT&#038;T will sell the phone at its more than 2,200 retail stores and kiosks, and through direct business sales teams.</p>
<p>The new deal eliminates the old revenue-sharing model, under which a portion of monthly service revenue was kicked back to Apple. Unlimited 3G data plans will be $30 a month, with voice plans starting at $39.99 a month. Business users can unlimited data plans for $45 a month, plus a voice plan.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2008/06/09/att-renews-apple-iphone-deal-confirms-subsidy-plan-sees-08-09-eps-hit-of-10-12cshr-accretive-in-2010/">Read the rest of this post</a></p>
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