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		<title>Rolling Stone's Web Failure Wasn't So Shabby, After All. But Now What?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conventional wisdom of the day: Magazine mogul Jann Wenner, the man who made his mark with Rolling Stone in the 60s and 70s, and then again with US Weekly in this decade, has blown it on the Web. And now it's too late for him to catch up.

And who knows? It may even be true. But here's one bit of nuance to chew on: Magazine mogul Jann Wenner has made money--as in, a profit--on the Web for the last five years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/08/lennon.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-10558" title="lennon" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/08/lennon-202x300.jpg" alt="lennon" width="202" height="300" /></a>Conventional wisdom of the day: Magazine mogul Jann Wenner, the man who made his mark with Rolling Stone in the &#8217;60s and &#8217;70s and then again with US Weekly this decade, has blown it on the Web. And now it&#8217;s too late for him to catch up.</p>
<p>And who knows? It may even be true. But here&#8217;s one bit of nuance to chew on: Magazine mogul Jann Wenner has made money&#8211;as in, a profit&#8211;on the Web for the last five years.</p>
<p>How so? By licensing <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/">Rollingstone.com</a> to RealNetworks (RNWK) and letting that company bear almost all the costs of running the site. True, <a href="http://gawker.com/5348926/rolling-stone-finally-taking-late-doomed-shot-at-rollingstonecom">the site didn&#8217;t blow anyone away</a>. But it has generated cash. I&#8217;m told the RealNetworks deal is worth &#8220;several&#8221; millions in profit per year.</p>
<p>That kind of performance wouldn&#8217;t be very meaningful for a title owned by a big public company like Time Warner&#8217;s (TWX) Time Inc., where it would be important to show Wall Street that you&#8217;ve harnessed the power of the Web and turned it into your own personal growth engine.</p>
<p>But for Wenner&#8217;s privately held company, which owns all of three titles, a few million bucks a year in profit is a few million bucks a year in profit. And that profit has come in handy the last couple of years, when the Internet growth engine has turned out to have problems of its own.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be clear: Wenner&#8217;s cautious, cash-flow-positive strategy has now left Rolling Stone far behind everyone else on the Web when it comes to market share. Which is why I&#8217;d suggest that his company <em>not</em> try to replicate its print strategy&#8211;which aims to straddle an uneasy line between modern pop culture (<a href="http://jolienadine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/thehills.jpg">&#8220;The Hills&#8221;</a>!) and golden oldies (<a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/08/19/why-the-beatles-broke-up-the-new-issue-of-rolling-stone/">&#8220;The Beatles&#8221;</a>!)&#8211;and forgo the idea of becoming &#8220;The Rolling Stone of Web.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even if Wenner had tried this years ago, I don&#8217;t think it would have worked; the Web is too diffuse and pop culture tastes too fractured for any single site to gain the kind of traction that his magazine got during its heyday. And if any site does have that power, it&#8217;s Google&#8217;s (GOOG) YouTube, and no one&#8217;s going to displace that now.</p>
<p>My two cents: Turn RollingStone.com into an amazing online archive that capitalizes on the magazine&#8217;s glory years, when it really was the hub for popular culture. The magazine should have a treasure trove of stuff at its fingertips&#8211;interviews, articles, photos,  etc.&#8211;but you&#8217;d be hard pressed to find any of it on the site now.</p>
<p>Take the interviews that Wenner himself conducted with John Lennon and other luminaries, for example: Great stuff. But if you&#8217;re looking for, say,  Wenner&#8217;s 1970 interview with Lennon, you can&#8217;t find them on his own site. You&#8217;ll have to look over on&#8230;YouTube.</p>
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<p>It should be relatively easy, and inexpensive, to cull this stuff, make it searchable, figure out ways to recycle, repackage, and redistribute it, right? It won&#8217;t necessarily do blockbuster numbers, but it won&#8217;t cost much, either. Get lucky, and you could even turn a profit.</p>
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		<title>Will StumbleUpon&#039;s New Web Look and Feel Give It Web Wings?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While rumors of its impending re-sale have apparently been greatly exaggerated, what's true about StumbleUpon is that its new Web-centric look and feel and a new partnering program represent a major shift for the online discovery service.

The San Francisco-based company, which was founded in 2001 and sold to eBay last year for $75 million, is announcing tonight that users will no longer have to register or download its toolbar to "stumble" the Web.

The move is being made because most Internet users are increasingly loath to install Web plug-ins, a requirement that naturally has slowed the growth of StumbleUpon's service.]]></description>
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<p>While rumors of its impending re-sale have apparently been greatly exaggerated, what&#8217;s true about <a href="http://www.stumbleupon.com">StumbleUpon</a> is that its new Web-centric look and feel and a new partnering program represent a major shift for the online discovery service.</p>
<p>The San Francisco-based company, which was founded in 2001 and sold to eBay last year for $75 million, is announcing tonight that users will no longer have to register or download its toolbar to &#8220;stumble&#8221; the Web.</p>
<p>Users can now simply start on StumbleUpon&#8217;s site, for example, and stumble all over the Web using their Web browser as guide rather than a toolbar.</p>
<p>The move is being made simply because most Internet users are increasingly loath to install Web plug-ins like toolbars, a requirement that naturally has slowed the growth of StumbleUpon&#8217;s service over time.</p>
<p>Currently, StumbleUpon has about six million registered users, although only a fraction of those are responsible for the approximately 12 million daily &#8220;stumbles,&#8221; all using a toolbar.</p>
<p>&#8220;We wanted to attract users who do not want to use a toolbar, making it easy so they could use the service right from the get-go,&#8221; said Garrett Camp, co-founder of StumbleUpon, in an interview with BoomTown earlier today.</p>
<p>Camp noted that that the toolbar&#8211;which has been downloaded between 11 and 12 million times&#8211;has seen that growth slow over time. Nonetheless, it is not being eliminated either.</p>
<p>&#8220;[Toolbar adoption] was still growing, but not accelerating,&#8221; said Camp. &#8220;Being able to stumble without one was the biggest feedback we got from users.&#8221;</p>
<p>Along with the Web-stumble change, StumbleUpon is also unveiling a redesigned homepage&#8211;see an example of it below; click on the image to make it larger&#8211;which is an attempt to make it more of a destination.</p>
<p>With the new look, visitors can find content by topic and more related to interests. Other changes include a new look for profile pages, as well as user reviews, rating and comments.</p>
<p>Along with its distribution shift and site renovation, StumbleUpon is unveiling a partner program called StumbleThru that will allow visitors to discover content within those sites without going to StumbleUpon.</p>
<p>Sites&#8211;starting with HowStuffWorks.com and the HuffingtonPost.com and followed within weeks by RollingStone.com and National Geographic&#8211;will display a StumbleUpon &#8220;badge&#8221; or custom widget.</p>
<p>It is not unlike similar buttons that now dot Web pages from news discovery services like Digg, which users can click to find related pages.</p>
<p>Essentially, much as Google (GOOG) delivers custom search within Web sites, StumbleUpon is offering custom surfing, giving publishers StumbleUpon technology to allow its users to surface content within their sites that is often deeply buried.</p>
<p>As to the blog reports that eBay (EBAY) had put StumbleUpon up for sale after owning it for a little more than a year, Camp essentially dismissed them, noting that the unit is still operating as an independent subsidiary of the auction giant.</p>
<p>&#8220;They have given us a lot of runway,&#8221; said Camp.</p>
<p>Here is the new front page of StumbleUpon:</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/09/stumbleupon-screenshot.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/09/stumbleupon-screenshot.jpg" alt="" title="stumbleupon-screenshot" width="380" height="600" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-4634" /></a></p>
<p>Also, here is a video I did last year at the exceptionally noisy (sorry!) party that StumbleUpon threw after it was sold to eBay a little more than a year ago:</p>
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