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		<title>Meet Maureen Dowd's Favorite Writer: Talking Points Memo's Josh Marshall</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of you are just hearing Josh Marshall's name for the first time, following the New York Times's admission that columnist Maureen Dowd "failed to attribute" some of her column to him. But that's a shame because Marshall's site is noteworthy on its own merits: It's a self-funded, profitable new-media site that does both blogging/aggregation and real reporting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7466" title="josh-marshall" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2009/05/josh-marshall-250x140.jpg" alt="josh-marshall" width="250" height="140" />Today&#8217;s life lesson: Procrastination does pay off!</p>
<p>A few weeks ago I sat down with Josh Marshall, the journalist/entrepreneur behind <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/">Talking Points Memo</a>, and had a great chat about news, new media and the business of running a self-funded Web site. But my notes and video have sat on my hard drive since then, for no other reason than I never got around to publishing them.</p>
<p>Thank you, Maureen Dowd, for the kick in the pants I needed: Over the weekend, the New York Times (NYT) columnist has given Marshall a huge, if unintended, endorsement by <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/thejoshuablog/2009/05/ny-times-maureen-dowd-plagiari.php">borrowing his work</a> and then getting caught.</p>
<p>After an initial attempt by Dowd to <a href="http://gawker.com/5259082/maureen-dowd-admits-to-an-act-of-accidental-plagiarism">explain away</a> the similarity between her work and his, the Times is now running a correction on Dowd&#8217;s Sunday column, noting that she <span><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17dowd.html?_r=2">&#8220;failed to attribute a paragraph&#8221;</a> to Marshall.</span></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll read plenty more about this on the Web over the next few days, if you&#8217;re inclined. But it would be a shame if that&#8217;s the only thing you know about Marshall&#8217;s site, which is an interesting hybrid of politically focused reporting, commentary, and aggregation/blogging.</p>
<p>And I do mean a mix: If you just glimpse quickly at his site, you might think it&#8217;s the same grouping of links and headlines that you can find anywhere else on the Web. But Marshall was a real reporter prior to starting the site and his 12-person staff does real reporting. Its best work, to date, was uncovering the Bush administration&#8217;s <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/us-attorneys/2007/03/">U.S. Attorneys scandal</a> in 2007, which led to prestigious <a href="http://www.brooklyn.liu.edu/polk/press/2007.html">Polk Award</a> in 2008.</p>
<p>Just as interesting: It&#8217;s a profitable business that has never taken outside investment and until recently, has made almost all of its money by relying on ad networks. The most effective ad network, says Marshall: <a href="https://www.google.com/adsense/login/en_US/?gsessionid=WVINVDMZA_lm6t9kcR5X-w">Google&#8217;s AdSense</a>. See! Google (GOOG) really does support content!</p>
<p>More recently, Marshall has hired Yahoo (YHOO) vet Diane Rinaldo to serve as the company&#8217;s first real ad rep, trying to translate the site&#8217;s one million (give or take) monthly unique readers into more significant revenue. That&#8217;s alleged to be a real challenge since advertisers are supposedly loath to touch political content. But then again, start-up blogs aren&#8217;t supposed to do real journalism&#8211;or act as unattributed contributors to the country&#8217;s most prestigious newspaper.</p>
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		<title>Well Said: Ana Marie Cox on Bloggers Then and Now</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more things change, the more they actually do change.

At least, according to this excerpt from a 10-questions interview former Wonkette blogger Ana Marie Cox, who now contributes to Time magazine's Swampland blog, did with Stop Smiling magazine.

In questions No. 7 and 8 here, she discusses the huge differences in the 2004 and 2008 presidential campaigns, in terms of blogs, and how the image of bloggers has shifted dramatically with mainstream media.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more things change, the more they actually <em>do</em> change.</p>
<p>At least, according to this excerpt from a 10-questions interview former Wonkette blogger Ana Marie Cox, who now contributes to Time magazine&#8217;s Swampland blog, did with <a href="http://www.stopsmilingonline.com/story_detail.php?id=1158">Stop Smiling magazine</a> recently.</p>
<p><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/24450643_v3dyk-m.jpg"><img src="http://kara.allthingsd.com/files/2008/10/24450643_v3dyk-m-300x200.jpg" alt="" title="24450643_v3dyk-m" width="250" height="150" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5584" /></a></p>
<p>Cox (pictured here) was on <a href="http://d.smugmug.com/gallery/578910#24450643_v3DYk">a blogger panel</a> at our third <strong>D: All Things Digital</strong> conference in 2005, where she talked about the changes in the media industry due to the rise of blogs.</p>
<p>At the time, there was a lot of controversy about the rise of bloggers.</p>
<p>But now, in questions No. 7 and 8 here, Cox discusses the huge differences in the 2004 and 2008 presidential campaigns, in terms of blogs, and how the image of bloggers has shifted dramatically with mainstream media.</p>
<p>From Cox&#8217;s lips to traditional journalists&#8217; ears.</p>
<p>Here are the excerpts:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Q7:</strong> You&#8217;ve been around long enough to see the differences between the 2004 and 2008 presidential campaigns. Do you have any strong feelings about how this year differs from the Kerry-Bush election, in terms of the role that blogs play?</p>
<p><strong>AMC:</strong> In 2004, MTV hired me to cover the Democratic convention, and I swear I did two or three interviews just on the fact that I was a blogger covering the convention. I doubt that would happen today. In 2004, people would be highly suspicious of me, because at any moment I could break out my computer and blog about them. I went to YearlyKos in 2006, as one of my first assignments for Time, and I was hanging out with the real reporters, and there was this running joke: As soon as someone said something off-color or impolitic, you&#8217;d say, &#8220;Hey, I’m gonna blog that.&#8221; Like a taunt. In 2008, I was at a Republican debate during the primaries, and I looked around the filing center and everyone was blogging. Everyone has that force propelling them to publish whatever they can. Anything that happens to them is now fodder for a Washington Post blog.</p>
<p><strong>Q8:</strong> Do you think more traditional reporters still frown on blogging as if it were not a serious form of journalism?</p>
<p><strong>AMC:</strong> The whole &#8220;are bloggers journalists?&#8221; question, which was always stupid, is finally fading, especially thanks to people like Josh Marshall [of Talking Points Memo], who have shown you don&#8217;t have to have a big organization behind you to be a journalist. The defining characteristic of a journalist is what you produce. I think it&#8217;s changed the question from &#8220;are bloggers journalists?&#8221; to &#8220;what is journalism?&#8221; And that is a perfectly acceptable debate to have. There&#8217;s never going to be an answer, but it starts us at a better place than simply talking about delivery systems.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ana</p>
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