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		<title>Checking Into Foursquare? Yahoo's CFO Talks About Next Mobile M&amp;A -- Including Importance of "Localization."</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Dennis Crowley, that sounds like you!]]></description>
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<p>I always like to listen to the dulcet tones of Yahoo CFO Ken Goldman, especially when he talks about what&#8217;s next for Yahoo.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the last time he appeared at an investor conference, the Boston-accented exec zeroed into the need for the Silicon Valley Internet giant to aim at a younger demographic.</p>
<p>Soon enough, Yahoo had scooped up one of the Internet&#8217;s most obvious youth plays, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20130520/yahoo-buys-tumblr-and-promises-not-to-screw-it-up/">Tumblr</a>, for $1.1 billion in cash.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I tuned in tonight to listen to a replay of his appearance at a tech investor conference held by Bank of America/Merrill Lynch yesterday in San Francisco, where Goldman did not disappoint in delivering some interesting tea leaves to read.</p>
<p>And what struck me most were his words around the continued interest Yahoo has in mobile, including possible acquisitions.</p>
<p>While he again talked in general about how Yahoo was no longer the M&#038;A anathema it had been before the arrival of CEO Marissa Mayer &#8212; &#8220;companies did not necessarily want to be acquired by Yahoo&#8221; &#8212; he firmly noted that &#8220;now when find something interesting, we actually go and address it and acquire it, rather than thinking about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Goldman added that Yahoo would continue to do acquisitions, &#8220;to help basically accelerate our progress &#8230; and continue to see the velocity of products in the mobile space.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of most interest is &#8220;localization of the space,&#8221; especially in providing search and content to consumers.</p>
<p>Hey, Dennis Crowley of Foursquare, that sounds like <em>you</em>! Indeed, the famous local New York-based check-in service and its telegenic founder Crowley have always been a favorite of Mayer, including an interest in buying the company when she was an exec at Google, which never came to pass, for various reasons.</p>
<p>(In a coincidence, the founder of the famous local check-in company happened be in San Francisco yesterday, <a href="https://twitter.com/dens/status/342110563695984640">checking in last night at the Tempest Bar</a> near Foursquare&#8217;s offices.)</p>
<p>As many worried about its prospects of late &#8212; its user base last year was only 30 million, although it powers location information for big sites like Instagram &#8212; Foursquare recently did a $41 million financing with help from the powerful Silver Lake private equity firm, which valued the company at $600 million. Other current investors who also participated in the transaction, which also included convertible debt, were Andreessen Horowitz, Union Square Ventures, O&#8217;Reilly AlphaTech Ventures and Spark Capital.</p>
<p>While that seems to have staved off sales talk around Foursquare, it&#8217;s certainly within the realm of possibility that Yahoo would be contemplating a company just like it, as it <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20130526/yahoos-bid-for-hulu-in-600m-to-800m-range-even-as-it-preps-other-big-deals-in-mobile-and-communications/">continues to actively survey the landscape</a>. That&#8217;s especially true given that Foursquare&#8217;s laudable but exhausting efforts to monetize need some serious turbocharging that Yahoo could certainly provide.</p>
<p>Much like Tumblr, Foursquare has struggled to realize its business aims &#8212; in its case, to make money from selling mobile advertising using its rich local search and robust user location information. (The company had about $2 million of revenue last year, according to a number of reports.)</p>
<p><a href="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/06/ironcone.png"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/06/ironcone-238x285.png?resize=238%2C285" alt="ironcone" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-329188" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>Foursquare has certainly been inventive in its efforts, including a terrific <a href="http://gameofcones.foursquare.com/">&#8220;Game of Cones&#8221;</a> campaign that somehow mashed up HBO&#8217;s hit cable show with ice cream (Winter is coming in summer, perhaps?).</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s just my humble opinion for now, advertising, search and content combined, of course, is directly in Yahoo&#8217;s wheelhouse, as well as Mayer&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Back to Goldman: &#8220;We&#8217;re not afraid to make any decisions,&#8221; he said, noting that Yahoo has a regular routine of reviewing a number of deals. &#8220;It comes back to what&#8217;s our strategy and focus and what do we need to accelerate our progress &#8230; we have to see a fit.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other tidbits, Goldman noted that Yahoo was working more &#8220;collaboratively&#8221; with its Chinese bank &#8212; oops, investment &#8212; Alibaba Group, which is preparing to go public at the end of this year, or early next year.</p>
<p>The huge pile of money Yahoo has made off its initial $1 billion investment by co-founder Jerry Yang has been what has given current management its comfy cushion to remake the company, and has also goosed its stock. </p>
<p>Regarding Alibaba&#8217;s IPO, after which Yahoo will be getting another multibillion-dollar slug of dough, Goldman added that &#8220;there are mechanisms in place to ensure it is a fair process to all parties.&#8221;</p>
<p>He noted, too, that he had joined the board of Yahoo&#8217;s other Asian investment, in Yahoo Japan, and would be at its next meeting. Yahoo has previously contemplated selling that asset, too, but has seemed to have tabled that effort under Goldman and Mayer.</p>
<p>You can listen to Goldman&#8217;s talk at the investor conference in its entirety <a href="http://www.veracast.com/baml/tech2013/main/player.cfm?eventName=1042_yahoo_">here</a>. </p>
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		<title>Go Far West, Young Startup: SoftBank Capital and Yahoo Japan in $20M Fund to Bring U.S. Entrepreneurs There</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Breaking into the Asian market is not easy.]]></description>
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<p>SoftBank Capital and Yahoo Japan said they had created an unusual $20 million fund to help U.S. startups break into the Japanese market, while also upping a presence in the U.S. </p>
<p>The partnership between Japan&#8217;s largest Internet company &#8212; which is also a joint venture with Yahoo &#8212; and the venture arm of the giant SoftBank Corp. will invest in companies from early-stage funding to later-stage expansion and focus on mobile applications, social media, e-commerce, online advertising, gaming and cloud computing.</p>
<p>The new funds for that are being put into SoftBank Capital&#8217;s $100 million Technology Fund &rsquo;10. As part of the deal, Toshiaki Chiku will become head of U.S. operations in Manhattan. SoftBank Capital also recently announced a $250 million PrinceVille Fund, aimed at growth-stage startups in Asia.</p>
<p>Among the firm&#8217;s recent exits: Bluefin Labs went to Twitter, Buddy Media to Salesforce.com, Huffington Post to AOL, Hyperpublic to Groupon and OMGPOP to Zynga.</p>
<p>Now, it will be focusing even more on helping U.S. startups in Asia.</p>
<p>&#8220;Japan can be challenging for many U.S. companies, and given our scale and affiliation with SoftBank Corp., we&#8217;re in a great position to help them grow and succeed,&#8221; said Chiku in a statement.</p>
<p>SoftBank Capital and Yahoo Japan used performance display advertising company Criteo as an example of a successful investment, in which it also helped the company enter the Asian market (although, technically, Criteo is HQed in France).</p>
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		<title>Q4 Earnings Call: Mayer Says "Chain Reaction" Needed to Blast Yahoo Into the Future</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turnaround via nuclear fission.]]></description>
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<p>Earlier today Yahoo <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20130128/yahoo-beats-earnings-estimates-on-flattish-revenue/">reported fourth-quarter earnings</a> that beat analyst estimates, on still-flattish revenue.</p>
<p>Still, up is up, even if it is not really that much up, so Wall Steet bid up shares of the Silicon Valley Internet giant in after-hours trading.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s onto the conference call with investors for CEO Marissa Mayer:</p>
<p><strong>2:02 pm</strong>: Before the call, you can hear Mayer complaining about the goofy music played during the pre-conference call waiting time.</p>
<p>&#8220;We <em>have</em> to get better music,&#8221; she says to some minion. &#8220;This is <em>not</em> good music.&#8221;</p>
<p>Music to my ears! I say we get Beyoncé, lipsyncing or not.</p>
<p>The call starts quickly after that, with the ever-eager Mayer leaping right in with the fourth-quarter news, which is not all that bad. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the first full year of growth in a while &#8212; though not the first quarter-to-quarter increase &#8212; even if it is only a very modest two percent increase. </p>
<p>That compares to industry-wide gains in revenue of many, many, many times that, but for Yahoo this is cause for a parade. A small parade, with good music, but a parade nonetheless.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to believe this is only my first full quarter here at Yahoo,&#8221; says Mayer in an upbeat tone.</p>
<p>She notes that her focus on product excellence and user experience was continuing, with some &#8220;early positive trends&#8221; in both products and people.</p>
<p>Mayer then list a series of moves, from the free food and better smartphones for employees to the addition of well-regarded entrepreneur Max Levchin to the board to the refreshes of Yahoo Mail and Flickr to the acquisition of some sassy new mobile startups.</p>
<p>Mayer also notes that the company under her purview had removed &#8220;385 of highest priority obstacles,&#8221; although she did not name any specifics. </p>
<p><a href="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/01/url4.jpeg"><img src="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/01/url4.jpeg?resize=261%2C193" alt="url" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-289541" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>I imagine what No. 332 is: Switching out the iceberg lettuce at the URL cafeteria on Yahoo&#8217;s Sunnyvale, Calif. HQ campus with some tasty organic mesclun as they have at Google, from whence Mayer came.</p>
<p>Better roughage means better returns!</p>
<p><strong>2:14 pm</strong>: Mayer turns the call over to CFO Ken Goldman, also a newbie. As usual, he runs through the numbers that are already in all the releases already. But I am enjoying his New England accent, hoping he will say the slight increase in revenue was &#8220;wicked&#8221; good.</p>
<p>Goldman, in fact, calls the revenue increase &#8220;modest,&#8221; which is true, although it sounds like &#8220;<em>mah-dist</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s not mah-dist is how much stock Yahoo has bought back, using its windfall from the recent sale of assets in China. It&#8217;s $1.45 billion, with more that that left to use for more share buybacks. That should keep Yahoo&#8217;s stock up nicely.</p>
<p>Goldman also talks about increases in the company&#8217;s search business, although notes that the Microsoft relationship is still not the most fantastic. </p>
<p>He speaks more effusively of Yahoo&#8217;s Asian partners, including Yahoo! Japan and China&#8217;s Alibaba Group. It&#8217;s deserved, since they have been the company&#8217;s treasure trove against its meh core performance in recent years.</p>
<p>Not so tasty is the problem Yahoo has with a big-money contract dispute in Mexico, which Goldman reiterates is &#8220;without merit.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>2:28 pm</strong>: Goldman moves onto Yahoo&#8217;s cash position, which is strong and which he says is going to be used to make the company better.</p>
<p>Mayer is back on board, talking about key focuses over multiple years. </p>
<p>She says Yahoo needs a &#8220;chain reaction of growth,&#8221; which needs to be fueled by a dozen new products that become a daily habits for consumers to increase usage and other metrics.</p>
<p><a href="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/01/url5.jpeg"><img src="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/01/url5-378x285.jpeg?resize=378%2C285" alt="url" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-289544" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>A nuclear bomb explosion is not exactly the best metaphor for a company&#8217;s turnaround, but in Yahoo&#8217;s case it is probably a pretty good one, given how stubborn its decline has been.</p>
<p>Mayer then switches the metaphor to one she recently used about &#8220;returning to the roots&#8221; of Yahoo. </p>
<p>Actually, mixing the metaphors, Yahoo has to blast some significant roots that have gotten in the way of its innovation over the years. </p>
<p>&#8220;The best is yet to come,&#8221; promises Mayer, in what she says will be a multi-year effort.</p>
<p>Now onto questions from the analysts!</p>
<p><strong>2:40 pm</strong>: The first question is about commercialization of its products. Mayer answers she is both pro-advertising and anti-ad &#8212; meaning they are good when they add to user experience and bad when they do not.</p>
<p>There will be slight margin declines due to this, which is the real point of the query, which Goldman says will not be too impacted.</p>
<p>The next question is on the weaker performance in display ads and whether mobile ads can ramp up quick enough or not.</p>
<p>Yahoo is not breaking out mobile revenue numbers as yet &#8212; it&#8217;s not impressive as yet, so that&#8217;s what&#8217;s going on there &#8212; although Mayer points to the number of mobile users increasing to 200 million now.</p>
<p>As to the declines in display, Mayer gives a non-answer, but it is likely due to big changes that new Yahoo COO Henrique De Castro has put into place in the way it sells ads and which <strong>AllThingsD.com</strong> previously reported on. Mayer earlier in the call had confirmed those changes.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter &#8212; which is just what the analyst was asking about &#8212; is that Mayer simply <em>has</em> to improve display revenue, which is Yahoo&#8217;s core business.</p>
<p>Mayer then addresses the issue of not providing usage metrics anymore. Yahoo has withheld a lot of them since she has taken over, and she says it is because they are not indicative of metrics that, well, she thinks you need to know. </p>
<p>Instead, Mayer points to other metrics that she feels are better, such as number of ads sold and price per click on search.</p>
<p><a href="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/01/Gerard_van_Honthorst_008.jpeg"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2013/01/Gerard_van_Honthorst_008-217x285.jpeg?resize=217%2C285" alt="Gerard_van_Honthorst_008" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-289547" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>Speaking of search, the next question is about that. What can Mayer say &#8212; and she does &#8212; but that Yahoo must also improve in that area. Indeed, it is lucrative low-hanging fruit for the company.</p>
<p>Here comes an interesting observation she makes based on a question of mobile versus desktop, which Mayer says should not be separated as two areas as consumers don&#8217;t think that way. </p>
<p>Yahoo is tuning up a dozen products, she says, having started with Yahoo Mail and its Flickr photo-sharing app.</p>
<p><strong>2:54 pm</strong>: Mayer is not saying which of this dirty dozen is next to get a makeover.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re investing in small, nimble, excellent teams,&#8221; says Mayer, who then tries to reference a famous Margaret Mead quote, but ends up mangling it a bit.</p>
<p>It is, for the record: &#8220;Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed, citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true, which might make some Yahoo staffers nervous, since Mayer&#8217;s recent stack ranking of them means she can start on employee layoffs anytime she likes to separate the wheat from the chaff.</p>
<p><strong>3:01 pm</strong>: <em>Whoo-whee</em>, this is going long and I am getting weary. Mayer has to be some kind of digital Energizer Bunny &#8212; she just flew in from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland and moved right into the prep for the Q4 earnings. </p>
<p>Tomorrow, she is presumably off to Las Vegas, where Yahoo&#8217;s global sales conference will start and she will doubtlessly be making an appearance.</p>
<p>I am exhausted simply by walking up and down the stairs at my house.</p>
<p>The next question is about third-party publishers and ad tech on mobile.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mobile monetization is new for everyone,&#8221; she says correctly, making the point that no one knows what is going to shake out.</p>
<p>She uses &#8212; as she has used &#8212; the example of when people thought search was not a moneymaker until Google proved otherwise.</p>
<p>The problem is, of course, that Google is Yahoo&#8217;s biggest rival in this new mobile ad arena, along with Facebook and many others. And Google, as its recent results showed, does know how to make money compared to Yahoo.</p>
<p>The next question is about mobile monetization eating into desktop revenue. </p>
<p>Mayer notes that Yahoo has hired 120 people with computer science degrees in the quarter to work on that area. </p>
<p>In other words, get ready for a symphony of geeks to return Yahoo to relevance. </p>
<p>Would they can pull it off, as that would be a tune worth listening to.</p>
<p>Speaking of something worth listening to, here is a video of Diana Ross&#8217; song, &#8220;Chain Reaction,&#8221; to enjoy:</p>
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		<title>Despite Latest Alibaba IPO Rumors, Yahoo Deal Creates Incentive to Offering by End of 2015</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe not so fast.]]></description>
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<p>It seems like a month does not pass without another rumor about when Chinese Internet powerhouse Alibaba Group will have its much-anticipated IPO.</p>
<p>Today, in the latest loosely-sourced report, a <a href="http://www.marbridgeconsulting.com/marbridgedaily/2012-12-27/article/62221/rumor_alibaba_group_to_ipo_in_2013">newsletter quoted a Chinese-language site</a> on a leaked memo that allegedly said the preparations would begin in the second half of 2013 for a public offering in late 2013 or early 2014.</p>
<p>Maybe not so fast, according to sources close to the situation, who note that incentives in a recent stock buyback with major shareholder Yahoo could drive a public offering to the end of 2015. </p>
<p>The timeframe is not a deadline, of course, but Alibaba benefits more if it does its IPO by then. Sources said the IPO will depend entirely on market timing and there is not a current plan to do so soon.</p>
<p>The news matters a great deal to Yahoo investors, especially because much of its market valuation is still made up of the remaining 22 percent stake it still holds in Alibaba, as well as its assets in Yahoo! Japan.</p>
<p>Yahoo completed the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120918/alibaba-closes-7-6-billion-yahoo-deal/">sale of half its stake in Alibaba earlier this year for $7.6 billion</a>, netting the Silicon Valley Internet giant about $4.5 billion &#8212; most of which is being used for repurchases of shares.</p>
<p>As Alibaba noted at the time of that deal:</p>
<p>&#8220;Under the terms of the agreement with Yahoo!, Alibaba Group has the right to repurchase one-half of Yahoo!&#8217;s remaining stake upon a qualifying initial public offering in the future. Yahoo! originally acquired its stake in Alibaba Group in 2005 in exchange for US$1 billion and sale of its Yahoo! China business to Alibaba Group.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since then, Alibaba&#8217;s value has risen dramatically on a strong performance in its various units, including e-commerce giant Taobao.</p>
<p>At the time of its stock buyback with Yahoo, Alibaba&#8217;s value was $40 billion, which some think will rise strongly over the next few years. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s no guarantee, of course, and it depends how Alibaba&#8217;s business in China and elsewhere fares. That has not stopped some Yahoo investors, in fact, from flogging gigantic Alibaba IPO valuations, despite the fact that the company is mulling whether to keep it lower to avoid a Facebook-like debacle.</p>
<p>And while it&#8217;s clear the company is eventually headed for an IPO, those close to the situation said its management is not in any rush, especially with a recent influx of capital from investors such as Silver Lake, DST Global, Temasek and Yunfeng Fund. </p>
<p>&#8220;So many rumors have been floated on this IPO and we can expect a lot more until it actually happens,&#8221; said one source.</p>
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		<title>Will the "Marissa Mayer Premium" -- or Is It Those Hedge Fund Dudes Piling in -- Finally Get Yahoo's Stock to $20 a Share?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There must be a magical unicorn in there somewhere.]]></description>
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<p>They like her, they <em>really</em> like her.</p>
<p>Wall Street, that is, in regards to new Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer, assigning the former Google exec a clear premium.</p>
<p>And whether it is deserved or not yet from a pure performance perspective &#8212; we actually won&#8217;t know for several quarters ahead &#8212; the shares of the Silicon Valley Internet giant over the past three months have gone up 22 percent. The rise has taken place pretty much on the promise that she will finally be the one to deliver what no other Yahoo leader has done.</p>
<p>And that is, besides making the company relevant and innovative again: Getting Yahoo&#8217;s stock past $20 a share again. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s within striking distance now. Shares are at $18.40 today, close to an all-time high for the year. The recent rise certainly isn&#8217;t taking into account the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20121022/hall-pass-yahoo-meets-lackluster-expectations-in-third-quarter-with-investor-focus-on-mayers-plans/">results of the recent lackluster third quarter</a>, which continued to show the worrisome downward trends &#8212; even though partial <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120911/exclusive-mayer-set-to-get-yahoos-alibaba-billions-in-one-week-but-will-investors-get-some-back-too/">asset sales of the company&#8217;s Chinese Alibaba stake</a> successfully masked the problems &#8212; in growth, engagement and overall profitability.</p>
<p>But Mayer&#8217;s <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20121022/liveblogging-the-debut-of-yahoo-ceo-mayer-tailor-made-for-marissa/">confident I&#8217;ve-got-this tones on the earnings call</a> itself &#8212; especially in pushing a mobile strategy that has not been put in place as yet in any substantive way &#8212; won over Wall Street investors, who apparently like how she <em>sounds</em> and, thus, are intrigued with what she might <em>do</em>. </p>
<p>While this kind of perceptual game will only get Yahoo so far, moving out of the teens in share price would be an important benchmark for the company.</p>
<p>The stock was last at that level in August of 2008. At the time, in fact, $20 a share was considered very disappointing, taking place after Microsoft <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20080503/breaking-microsoft-walks/">dropped its $44.6 billion hostile bid</a> for Yahoo a few months earlier. Indeed, $20 was a big comedown from when Yahoo shares were above $43 in 2006. </p>
<p>The lowest price Yahoo shares got in recent years were $9.39 in November of 2008, just before then CEO and co-founder <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20121022/liveblogging-the-debut-of-yahoo-ceo-mayer-tailor-made-for-marissa/">Jerry Yang stepped down</a>. </p>
<p>Now the stock is close to double that sad trough, fueled in part by some cosmetic moves to improve culture by Mayer &#8212; including <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120729/in-week-two-marissa-mayer-googifies-yahoo-free-food-friday-afternoon-all-hands-new-work-spaces-fab-swag/">free food</a>, smartphones and a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120825/sweet-mayer-declares-that-its-peanut-butter-jelly-time-at-yahoo/">promise to end the slow-moving decision-making</a> at Yahoo.</p>
<p>There has also been a start of the promised multi-billion-dollar stock buybacks by the company, although Yahoo has been cagey about how and when it is purchasing. Also helping, more recently, is that several big hedge funds are buying into the story of hope. </p>
<p>Following in the footsteps of successful activist shareholder Dan Loeb of Third Point, who is now on the board and is a major Yahoo investor, others like him have now joined in the party in a bigger way. That includes David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital and Chase Coleman of Tiger Global Management. </p>
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<p>The thoughtful Einhorn, who is a friend of Loeb&#8217;s, has been in and <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110708/yahoo-shares-dip-as-einhorn-sells-off-stake/">out</a> of the stock before, buying it on hopes that now ousted CEO Carol Bartz would be Yahoo&#8217;s savior and selling it soon after it was clear she might not be. He <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120215/welcome-back-einhorn-is-hedge-fund-back-in-yahoo-fray/">came back in February with three million shares</a>, sold them in May, but now has upped his stake to just over five million more under Mayer&#8217;s regime.</p>
<p>More substantively, Tiger&#8217;s Coleman has grabbed 25 million shares (interestingly, he&#8217;s also upped his stakes in Groupon and Facebook).</p>
<p>Obviously, they must believe Yahoo is set to move upward, which all depends on Mayer. She&#8217;s made one critical stock misstep early in her tenure, by announcing that she was <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120809/mine-mine-all-mine-yahoo-says-it-might-just-keep-that-alibaba-money-for-itself-instead-for-shareholders/">considering keeping the huge cash windfall from its sale of Alibaba stock</a> and not giving it back to shareholders in some form.</p>
<p>That dropped Yahoo&#8217;s shares to under $15, but Mayer <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120918/yahoo-returning-3-65-billion-to-shareholders-but-in-buybacks-or-dividends/">walked back that mistake</a> and the stock has been climbing since.</p>
<p>For the year to date, it&#8217;s up almost 14 percent &#8212; a nice rise &#8212; although that pales in comparison to Apple&#8217;s 39 percent rise, Amazon&#8217;s 37 percent rise and, most of all, AOL&#8217;s 136 percent leap.</p>
<p>The comparison to the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120725/an-upbeat-q2-for-aol/">massive stock run that AOL has had</a>, after CEO Tim Armstrong &#8212; also a former Googler &#8212; cut costs, focused units, sold patents and bought back stock, is often made. It&#8217;s perhaps apt, but arguably Yahoo has much better and fixable assets than AOL.</p>
<p>More to the point, Yahoo&#8217;s price-to-earnings ratio remains unusually low &#8212; it&#8217;s 5.6, compared to the S&#038;P&#8217;s 14.2 average &#8212; which means that the entire business is severely undervalued by Wall Street.</p>
<p>It is if Mayer can create real value by actually staging the comeback she is already getting credit for accomplishing. She certainly has a lot of levers to improve results, from the stock buyback to finally making a deal to sell its multi-billion-dollar stake in Yahoo! Japan to making expense cuts to buying some innovative small start-ups to creating products that aren&#8217;t, <em>well</em>, lame.</p>
<p>Most importantly, Mayer has to stop the decimation of Yahoo&#8217;s once mighty advertising business, which makes up the bulk of its revenue, as well as improve its search monetization by <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120921/what-will-marissa-do-yahoo-ceo-zeroes-in-on-search-while-her-ad-team-eyes-tech-upgrade-options/">rejiggering its heretofore dysfunctional partnership</a> with Microsoft. (But, as I wrote earlier this week, she will <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20121118/yahoo-and-facebook-not-in-search-alliance-discussions/"><em>not</em> be making new search engines with Facebook</a>.)</p>
<p>A gander at this chart of Yahoo&#8217;s declining quarterly revenue should give you a good visual of the problem with the core business:</p>
<p><a href="http://ycharts.com/companies/YHOO/chart#series=calc:revenues,type:company,id:YHOO&#038;maxPoints=650&#038;zoom=5&#038;format=real"><img src="http://i0.wp.com/media.ycharts.com/charts/7681ea6ef8923900682ff3944511cb96.png" alt="YHOO Revenue Quarterly Chart" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a>
<p style="font-size: 10px;"><a href="http://ycharts.com/companies/YHOO/revenues">YHOO Revenue Quarterly</a> data by <a href="http://ycharts.com">YCharts</a></p>
<p>And, indeed, Yahoo&#8217;s sales have dropped 29 percent since 2007, with typically flat display revenue and declining search revenue, which was once Yahoo&#8217;s crown jewel. While operating margins have risen over the years, very few point to the company as an exciting growth story.</p>
<p>And it still isn&#8217;t, although investors are starting to consider it a possibility. We&#8217;ll see as Mayer makes more significant changes in 2013, hopefully underpinning the stock&#8217;s recent rise with a true story of financial strides. </p>
<p>But, for now, giddy shareholders probably should not get too far ahead of themselves. Not that you can stop them: Mayer fan <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/11/07/heres-how-yahoo-gets-to-40-by-the-end-of-2013/">Eric Jackson</a> is calling for Yahoo&#8217;s stock to be over $40 again by end of 2013.</p>
<p>Whether the Mayer premium can do pull off that particular investor miracle or not remains to be seen. </p>
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		<title>With Low Expectations for Q3, Wall Street Hoping for New Yahoo CEO Mayer to Shine a Light at End of Tunnel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And make sure it's not an oncoming train.]]></description>
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<p>Later today, new Yahoo CEO and latest savior Marissa Mayer is expected to debut in her first major turn as a public company CEO, as the company reports its third-quarter earnings.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, her initial script recounting the last three months is likely to be rather lackluster, with Wall Street anticipating yet another nothing-to-write-home-about financial performance from the Silicon Valley Internet giant.</p>
<p>Investors are expecting $1.08 billion in revenue and 25 cents in net income per share in a report that is likely to show more of the same kind of weakness Yahoo has had for far too long. The main reasons this time: Worrisome growth in search and display advertising, especially compared to robust worldwide trends. </p>
<p>Such concerns have kept Yahoo&#8217;s stock pretty much flatlined at about $16 a share since she arrived in July.</p>
<p>And that is not likely to change until Wall Street hears more specifics about Mayer&#8217;s future plans. Yahoo has previously said she would outline more about her direction on the call with investors later today, after the financial results are released.</p>
<p>Thus, it&#8217;s basically a wait-and-see attitude, until Mayer does that, and perhaps until after there is some actual traction.</p>
<p>As noted by <a href="https://cantor2.bluematrix.com/sellside/EmailDocViewer?encrypt=3b1d0f6d-dc77-43d1-b166-983f55c61dc4&#038;mime=pdf&#038;co=cantor2&#038;id=kara@allthingsd.com&#038;source=mail">Cantor Fitzgerald&#8217;s Youssef Squali</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;1) We&#8217;ve seen this movie before (this new CEO is the fifth in as many years) and 2) it will take some time before any of the yet-to-be-announced changes yield any meaningful P&#038;L results. Until then, we see Yahoo! shares remain cheap with limited downside, but no clear catalyst to drive them higher short/medium-term.&#8221;</p>
<p>Among the highlights that investors hope will be covered by Mayer and also by new CFO Ken Goldman: </p>
<p>A cogent strategy to turbocharge the business, which &#8212; as <strong>ATD</strong> has reported many times &#8212; will focus on tech and product solutions; what acquisition arenas are in the pipeline; plans for new talent recruitment and perhaps layoffs of less-than-stellar employees at the bottom 20 percent of Yahoo; the status of talks to sell off its stake in Yahoo Japan; and, perhaps most of all, what are the plans to return cash to shareholders from its recent sale of its partial stake in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group.</p>
<p>That might already be in the works via stock buybacks that Yahoo has been engaged in, but it will be interesting to see if Mayer will provide more specifics.</p>
<p>Investors will also look for some details around mobile growth, and perhaps an update of how Yahoo is fixing its search monetization problems with its partner, Microsoft.</p>
<p>One development that some expect is that Mayer will drop future expectations, in a classic take-out-the-trash move.</p>
<p>As J.P. Morgan&#8217;s Doug Anmuth noted:</p>
<p>&#8220;Similar to what AOL CEO Tim Armstrong did when he stepped in a few years ago, we believe Mayer is likely to remove low quality ad units and over-monetization throughout the site. Despite the near-term monetization impact, we think this would be a good thing, as it would improve the user experience and de-clutter the site. Additionally, we think it&#8217;s likely new management would simply want to start off with a low bar.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, if she makes it low enough, anything Mayer will do going forward is likely to look pretty good.</p>
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		<title>What Will Marissa Do?: Yahoo CEO Zeroes in on Search, While Her Ad Team Eyes Tech Upgrade Options</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Free food and iPhones do not a turnaround make. Now it's time for the hard part of remaking the Silicon Valley giant.]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s been nice to see all the euphoria at Yahoo about <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120729/in-week-two-marissa-mayer-googifies-yahoo-free-food-friday-afternoon-all-hands-new-work-spaces-fab-swag/">free food</a> and <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120821/this-week-in-marissya-iphones-for-all-flickr-love-and-management-musical-chairs/">Apple iPhones</a> kicking it up a notch. </p>
<p>But, purple people, guess what? <em>Them&#8217;s</em> just your basic table stakes in Silicon Valley these days and pretty much everyone else has had such perks for a long while now.</p>
<p>Thus, as nice as it is to drink your coconut water gratis, after two months in charge, it&#8217;s long past time to focus on what new Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer is up to besides making much-needed but obvious cultural changes at the troubled Internet giant.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s been busy with the expected listening tour of employees and also outside tech players &#8212; such as former Yahoo CEO Terry Semel &#8212; which is a textbook stop in the turnaround playbook.</p>
<p>Now comes the hard part: Actually beginning to make the significant decisions about how she&#8217;s going to turn around Yahoo and what the key issues of strategic focus need to be. </p>
<p>In a series of recent meetings, according to numerous sources inside the company, Mayer has begun to outline what those are to top staff.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, they are many of the same thorny issues that Yahoo has been facing for a long time and which center primarily on making the company relevant again in a wide number of ways.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get to many of them over the next week in a series of What Will Marissa Do? posts &#8212; including looking closely at her new hires, when and how Mayer will deal with inevitable layoff decisions facing the company, where the sale of Yahoo! Japan stands and, finally, what she&#8217;s cooking up for key Yahoo products.</p>
<p>But the focus has to fall first of all on search and advertising, the two arenas that Mayer has been studying most closely, according to numerous sources close to the situation. </p>
<p>That has included a recent meeting and numerous discussions with Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer about improving Yahoo&#8217;s search advertising partnership, said sources at both companies. </p>
<p>That deal has been largely disappointing since it was struck under the regime of ousted CEO Carol Bartz several years ago. </p>
<p>Many reasons are given for the poor performance of the entire arrangement, including lack of improvement of cost per click and share growth for both parties. That means bid density and numbers of advertisers remain too low, especially compared to Google&#8217;s offering of access to a larger, more active and lucrative market.</p>
<p>Simply put, despite massive spending by Microsoft on search, users and advertisers get significantly better results overall with the search leader Google.</p>
<p>(You can read a <a href="http://searchengineland.com/the-yahoo-search-revenue-disaster-73868">great piece by Search Engine Land&#8217;s Danny Sullivan</a> from last year, which exhaustively looked at the issues until then.)</p>
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<p>The irony abounds that it&#8217;s up to Mayer to fix this problem of improving revenue per search with Ballmer, since she has been among the executives who have made Google the search behemoth it has become. </p>
<p>Her particular expertise has been on search experience for consumers, which is just the area that Yahoo desperately needs to improve after handing over technology duties to Microsoft.</p>
<p>That move was controversial at the time and some feel it was a big mistake. But, most also think there is no going back at this point, given the enormous cost of running a serious search enterprise. </p>
<p>Such an idea is still being raised inside Yahoo, although it seems more nostalgic than a realistic possibility, given the enormous price and, more importantly, the departure of the company&#8217;s core search engineers in recent years. </p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean Yahoo under Mayer can&#8217;t be key to helping solve Microsoft&#8217;s search tech problems. She certainly knows the entire arena, which has already given Yahoo increased credibility among Microsoft&#8217;s search engineers.</p>
<p>&#8220;None of Yahoo&#8217;s many CEOs knew anything about search technology and that&#8217;s certainly not the case here with Mayer,&#8221; said one person close to the situation at Microsoft. &#8220;When she walks in, she instantly has status among the geeks as someone who knows what she&#8217;s talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>It still may be a losing battle, due to Google&#8217;s overwhelming dominance, but if anyone at Yahoo can spot areas of even small improvement &#8212; which can yield big returns &#8212; it could be Mayer.</p>
<p>In addition, she can spearhead Yahoo&#8217;s own efforts to reverse &#8212; or perhaps simply stop &#8212; search market share declines via delivering a better consumer offering. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s still heavy lifting, no matter the exec, since both Microsoft&#8217;s Bing and Google are better equipped to win here, too.</p>
<p>&#8220;It hard to imagine we are going to slow down in any way,&#8221; said one former colleague of Mayer&#8217;s at Google to me recently in a rather ominous tone. &#8220;We&#8217;re only going to get more competitive.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Pressure much?</em> </p>
<p>And more: Mayer is under a time limit, since guaranteed payments Microsoft agreed to pay Yahoo for the shortfalls on what was promised will be running out next year. The pair has renegotiated that deal before, and it will likely have to do so again.</p>
<p>Of course, Mayer could try to walk and threaten to take Yahoo&#8217;s search business elsewhere, a move that former CEO Scott Thompson was mulling before his ouster. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a surprising ploy, except it is probably impossible to pull off, a fact acknowledged by top Yahoo execs.</p>
<p>&#8220;It might feel good to say we have options in search,&#8221; said one person close to the situation. &#8220;But that ship sailed years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, especially since Google is the only choice of possible alternate partners and such a move is rife with major obstacles.</p>
<p>There is the issue of the contract with Microsoft, which could lead to a potentially explosive legal struggle Yahoo can ill afford.</p>
<p>&#8220;They can try to get out of the deal,&#8221; said one high-ranking person at the software giant. &#8220;But that&#8217;s a lot easier threatened than done.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, there is the clear regulatory hairball any search hook-up between Google and Yahoo would lead to. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s happened before, which Mayer knows well since she was a top exec in Google&#8217;s business when it tried to partner with Yahoo as a way to prevent Microsoft&#8217;s hostile takeover bid for the company. </p>
<p>While times might have changed, Google is currently facing a likely battle with the Federal Trade Commission over its powerful search business, and trying to get Yahoo&#8217;s business now is a non-starter.</p>
<p>Thus, finally fixing the Microsoft partnership is key to Mayer&#8217;s success since it represents a little over one-third of revenue of Yahoo (see the chart below).</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120921/what-will-marissa-do-yahoo-ceo-zeroes-in-on-search-while-her-ad-team-eyes-tech-upgrade-options/yhoo-copy/" rel="attachment wp-att-252959"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/09/yhoo-copy-640x400.jpg?resize=640%2C400" alt="" title="yhoo copy" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-252959" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>The bigger part of Yahoo&#8217;s business, as you can also see from the chart, has been display revenues. And that, too, has been a sorry tale of declines and ever more disappointing results.</p>
<p>A report by eMarketer on display market share had this depressing chart for Yahoo:</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120921/what-will-marissa-do-yahoo-ceo-zeroes-in-on-search-while-her-ad-team-eyes-tech-upgrade-options/76203_335x236/" rel="attachment wp-att-252974"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/09/76203_335x236.jpeg?resize=335%2C236" alt="" title="76203_335x236" class="alignright size-full wp-image-252974" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>As is clear, the march downward for one-time leader Yahoo has been swift, and the prospects for the future are worse as Google and Facebook vie for leadership.</p>
<p>The reasons for this have been myriad, but Mayer has apparently decided that it&#8217;s been due in large part to the broken Yahoo ad tech platforms and their ever weaker performance. </p>
<p>As we have previously reported, she has determined that it&#8217;s now time to invest in improving them, both by funding internally and external acquisitions.</p>
<p>For that, she has formed a tight group of execs to scan the landscape for tasty and innovative treats for Yahoo to gobble up.</p>
<p>That includes: Scott Burke, SVP of Yahoo&#8217;s advertising and data platforms; Brian Silver, who runs the company&#8217;s Right Media Exchange; Xuhui Shao, a key engineering VP under Burke; and Mark Morrissey, the longtime tech exec who previously ran the company&#8217;s search business and was key to integrating the Microsoft search deal into place.</p>
<p>The cerebral Burke especially has been pushing ad platform improvement for a while and finally seems to have won the battle against detractors of the big and possibly grandiose plan by appealing to Mayer&#8217;s interest in not giving up. </p>
<p>Thus, the tabling of plans by Thompson, as well as interim CEO Ross Levinsohn, to outsource some of the automated parts of the display business to Google.</p>
<p>Those talks were very serious, as well as others to sell off Right Media, but they are done for now.</p>
<p>One major issue &#8212; the people in charge of the ad platform turnaround could also be seen (and most definitely are) as mired in Yahoo&#8217;s legacy of lackluster results and poor performance. </p>
<p>&#8220;It is kind of funny that the guys responsible for the decline now have the responsibility for fixing it,&#8221; said one source at Yahoo.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fair point to be made.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s water under the bridge, apparently, since the group has been making the rounds, helped by Yahoo&#8217;s M&#038;A execs, with a wide range of companies in many different ad tech area being considered (and some dismissed), including: Mediaocean, Turn, Criteo, PubMatic and Millennial Media.</p>
<p>Millennial is the most interesting, because it is a mobile ad play, where Yahoo is exactly nowhere (to be fair, less than nowhere) after years of botched efforts. </p>
<p>As with other companies, this is a critical arena for Yahoo, and yet one more that Mayer needs to focus on. </p>
<p>Lastly, Mayer has to make sure Yahoo&#8217;s premium display business remains strong. This is much more based on relationships with large advertisers than on major sponsorship and branding offerings, as well as creating consumer products and content that is appealing to marketers.</p>
<p>This area is now headed up by former Google exec Michael Barrett, who has publicly said he was staying put for now at Yahoo as its chief of revenue. </p>
<p>In fact, because he is in charge of all sales, he occupies the second slot under Mayer on Yahoo&#8217;s now strangely configured, punctuation-impaired and information-free <a href="http://pressroom.yahoo.net/pr/ycorp/management.aspx">management page</a>. </p>
<p>But numerous sources inside and outside Yahoo said Barrett has also told many people that he is still not fully committed to staying in the role for the long haul.</p>
<p>If he eventually gets a lucrative exit package &#8212; something the new boss is not being very generous with overall, said sources &#8212; that will mean Mayer will need a high-profile and well-regarded ad exec to replace him; sources said Mayer has already begun reaching out to some candidates. </p>
<p>The pickings are slim, with only a few names on the list of those capable of taking on such a job. That includes: Demand Media&#8217;s Joanne Bradford, who was also a former top Yahoo exec; Microsoft&#8217;s Yusuf Mehdi; OWN&#8217;s Kathleen Kayse; MLB.com&#8217;s Bob Bowman; and any number of Google execs. </p>
<p>In that regard, as with all the other search and advertising overhaul efforts at Yahoo, it is a matter of attracting serious talent into the company going forward. </p>
<p>More on that &#8212; and more &#8212; to come. </p>
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		<title>Exclusive: Mayer Set to Get Yahoo's Alibaba Billions in One Week (But Will Investors Get Some Back, Too?)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What will the Silicon Valley giant do with $4.5 billion?]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120911/exclusive-mayer-set-to-get-yahoos-alibaba-billions-in-one-week-but-will-investors-get-some-back-too/marissamcduck2-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-249910"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/09/marissamcduck2.jpeg?resize=380%2C285" alt="" title="marissamcduck2" class="alignright size-full wp-image-249910" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>According to sources close to the situation, Yahoo will officially close the multi-billion-dollar sale of half its assets in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group in one week.</p>
<p>Sources said the deal is set to be announced next Wednesday, in which the Chinese Internet giant will pay the Silicon Valley company $7.6 billion to buy back 20 percent of Alibaba. Yahoo still owns another 20 percent.</p>
<p>Yahoo will get $7.1 billion in the transaction, as well as a $550 million payment related to the ending of licensing fees that Alibaba has paid annually to Yahoo. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a huge return from when Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang led a $1 billion investment in the then-fledgling Alibaba seven years ago, with a belief in its CEO and co-founder Jack Ma.</p>
<p>But once-cordial relations between the companies became tense in the ensuing years, as Ma sought to lessen Yahoo&#8217;s 40 percent ownership.</p>
<p>After many public kerfuffles, Yahoo <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120520/yahoo-and-alibaba-officially-shake-on-7-billion-stock-sale-deal/">finally agreed earlier this year to sell half its stake</a>. It still holds 20 percent, which could eventually reap even larger returns once the fast-growing Alibaba goes public in several years. Yahoo is required to sell 10 percent at that IPO and must sell the rest after that.</p>
<p>Still, Yahoo is getting a pile of money now. After taxes, that gives new CEO Marissa Mayer about $4.5 billion to use in some as yet undetermined way. But it will most likely be for a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120810/with-billions-burning-a-hole-in-her-pocket-here-are-some-companies-yahoos-mayer-might-be-eyeing-and-buying/">series of acquisitions</a> to try to reinvigorate the long-troubled company.</p>
<p>Yahoo&#8217;s board and later its CFO Tim Morse had promised to return the money to shareholders by way of a stock buyback. But, last month &#8212; in a move that quickly depressed Yahoo&#8217;s shares and angered major investors &#8212; the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120809/mine-mine-all-mine-yahoo-says-it-might-just-keep-that-alibaba-money-for-itself-instead-for-shareholders/">company filed a statement</a> saying that Mayer was reevaluating that move and could keep the money for other strategic reasons.</p>
<p>Given what a huge windfall it is getting, it will be interesting to see if the board of Yahoo &#8212; which is meeting next week, sources said &#8212; will choose to return a portion of the Alibaba money to shareholders. A recent similar move by AOL &#8212; using money it got from selling patents &#8212; was partially the reason for the recent run-up in its stock.</p>
<p>Yahoo could also presumably also give a special dividend to shareholders, but that is less likely.</p>
<p>That will be the question once Yahoo gets its cash in the kitty, which is no small feat.</p>
<p>The complicated transaction spans the globe, given the size of the borrowing &#8212; $8 billion, which will value Alibaba at $43 billion &#8212; that the company is doing to regain some control from Yahoo. The deal includes debt, as well as the sale of both convertible preferred and common shares, and includes a wide range of players.</p>
<p>That includes current investors, such as Silver Lake, DST Global and Singapore&#8217;s Temasek Holdings, as well as many others.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a lot of money flying around the world to complete this,&#8221; said one person close to the situation.</p>
<p>Speaking of more money, it&#8217;s still unclear where Yahoo is in its long and very drawn out negotiations with its other Asian partner, SoftBank, over selling its stake in Yahoo! Japan.</p>
<p>Sources said the deal was proceeding well right before Mayer was hired, but that she slowed down the talks to reevaluate the prices being discussed. Since then, shares in Yahoo! Japan have appreciated strongly, while shares in Yahoo itself have lagged.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing that Yahoo has both its Asian assets &#8212; the value of them now makes up most of the company&#8217;s valuation.</p>
<p>Until, of course, Mayer figures out a way to turn the money Yahoo is getting into more gold.</p>
<p>An Alibaba spokesman declined to comment and Yahoo&#8217;s PR spokeswoman never speaks as per usual. </p>
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		<title>Not All Yahoos Headed Out Door: Mayer Makes Filo a Direct Report and Bell Permanent GC</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[More on what's going on at the Sunnyvale HQ of Silicon Valley's never-ending turnaround.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While new Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer has ushered some longtime employees out the door of late &#8212; most recently, HR head <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120810/exclusivr-yahoos-longtime-hr-head-david-windley-out/">David Windley</a> last week, with more to come &#8212; that does not mean she is not keeping some longtime Yahoos around.</p>
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<p>At the the Silicon Valley Internet giant&#8217;s weekly Friday FYI staff meeting, Mayer told the crowd that Yahoo co-founder David Filo (pictured here) would be reporting directly to her &#8212; which I <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120806/yahoo-gets-googley-qa-tool-at-friday-fyi-and-uses-it-to-ask-about-exec-accountability-and-leaks/">previously suggested</a> would happen &#8212; and also that <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120802/revolving-door-yahoo-departures-begin-even-as-mayers-team-still-tbd/">longtime legal exec Ron Bell</a> would become permanent general counsel.</p>
<p>Filo has been an important part of Mayer&#8217;s arrival at Yahoo, and was a critical ally in her first days, emerging as a vocal supporter of her appointment from the start.</p>
<p>The typically retiring and taciturn product guru actually gave a quote in a press release, and did interviews when Mayer was hired.</p>
<p>Moving Filo close to her is an important morale booster, because while the founders of Yahoo have their definite ups and downs, as I have previously noted, the heart of the company is still with both Filo and also co-founder Jerry Yang.</p>
<p>Interestingly, he&#8217;s actually been reporting for years to a variety of product and tech execs, despite owning more than 6 percent of Yahoo.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120813/not-all-yahoos-headed-out-door-mayer-makes-filo-a-direct-report-and-bell-permanent-gc/ron-bell-150x150/" rel="attachment wp-att-240538"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/08/Ron-Bell-150x150.jpeg?resize=150%2C150" alt="" title="Ron-Bell-150x150" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-240538" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>The elevation of <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ronsbell">Bell</a> (pictured here), who was No. 2 to former GC Mike Callahan, is an interesting move. Having been at Yahoo since 1999, after working at Apple, the veteran lawyer played an important role in waging the Facebook patent litigation.</p>
<p>He was <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120629/yahoos-longtime-top-lawyer-mike-callahan-departs/">named interim GC after Callahan left</a> in late June, by then-interim CEO Ross Levinsohn.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120730/as-expected-ross-levinsohn-departs-yahoo/">Levinsohn left</a> at the end of July.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see who else will leave Yahoo this week and next &#8212; the fates of a wide range of top execs are in the mix, from CFO Tim Morse to media head Mickie Rosen to sales chief Michael Barrett.</p>
<p>Mayer has been trying to recruit her former Google staffer <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120810/exclusive-yahoos-mayer-eyeing-twitters-stanton-for-big-media-role/">Katie Jacobs Stanton</a> from Twitter for a big media job. And she has reportedly been making strong efforts to get Barrett &#8212; another former advertising exec at the search giant &#8212; to stay.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see about it all soon enough, and also what will happen to Yahoo shares this week.</p>
<p>The stock got pummeled last week, down more than 5 percent on Friday to close at $15.15, after the company revealed in a regulatory filing that there might be a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120809/mine-mine-all-mine-yahoo-says-it-might-just-keep-that-alibaba-money-for-itself-instead-for-shareholders/">change of plans for the more than $4 billion from the sale</a> of its Alibaba Group stake.</p>
<p>Both Yahoo and one of its biggest shareholders and a director, Dan Loeb of Third Point, had previously said the money would likely be used for a stock buyback, or even a dividend.</p>
<p>Even though Loeb let it leak that he was A-okay with it all, to assuage other angry investors, Mayer will now need to come up with a solid plan for the dough, which could <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120810/with-billions-burning-a-hole-in-her-pocket-here-are-some-companies-yahoos-mayer-might-be-eyeing-and-buying/">include some acquisitions</a>.</p>
<p>And it might help if she could also perhaps finally land the long-troubled deal to get many more billions from its stake in Yahoo Japan.</p>
<p>While those negotiations have had their ups and downs, it was close to being struck in the summer. But sources said there are still apparently valuation differences.</p>
<p>(I would add comment or no comment from Yahoo, as I do with every other company I cover. But after numerous emails, I am still waiting to hear back from the company&#8217;s PR spokeswoman, whom I am sure has just been super busy.)</p>
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		<title>Liveblogging Yahoo's Q2 Earnings: The 100 Percent Less Marissa Edition (Sigh)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here's the only news: No new CEO on the call.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120717/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-the-100-percent-less-marissa-edition/marissa-mayer/" rel="attachment wp-att-231114"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/07/Marissa-Mayer-355x285.jpeg?resize=355%2C285" alt="" title="Marissa Mayer" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-231114" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>Today, Yahoo <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120717/yahoo-earnings-not-half-bad/">reported fair to middling &#8212; although still predictably unspectacular &#8212; second-quarter earnings</a> earlier today.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s time for its financial call with Wall Street analysts, which most notably will not include its spanking new CEO Marissa Mayer.</p>
<p>Giant, prolonged sigh, but not entirely unexpected, since she just got to the Silicon Valley Internet giant today. Of course, that did not stop former CEO Carol Bartz from hopping on right after she was hired and cussing up a storm.</p>
<p>That did not end so well for Bartz, so perhaps Mayer has already made one good decision. Minimize, minimize, minimize expectations!</p>
<p>Here we go:</p>
<p><strong>2:04 pm</strong>: The call starts off with the tireless CFO Tim Morse, telling people that he was very excited about the new CEO, but that he could not talk about it much.</p>
<p>Bummer!</p>
<p>But there was a message from Marissa Mayer, though: She cares about investors and you will be hearing from her soon!</p>
<p><strong>2:06 pm</strong>: Morse, the numbers guy goes right into the script reciting the <em>meh</em> numbers, which boil down to the fact that earnings were better than expected on lackluster revenue growth.</p>
<p>Getting that up will be Job #1 for the missing Mayer &#8212; you just know she is sitting at the table right now &#8212; who will have to pull some major rabbits out of the hat to get Yahoo back into the conversation.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120717/liveblogging-yahoo-q2-earnings-the-100-percent-less-marissa-edition/tl-ab_my_job_is_a_goat_rodeo_shirt/" rel="attachment wp-att-231293"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/07/tl-ab_my_job_is_a_goat_rodeo_shirt-285x285.jpeg?resize=285%2C285" alt="" title="tl-ab_my_job_is_a_goat_rodeo_shirt" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-231293" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>That would be the good conversation &#8212; about how it is innovative &#8212; and not about the bad conversation about what a management goat rodeo it has been for far too long.</p>
<p><strong>2:09 pm</strong>: Morse is still repeating what you could read in the press release.</p>
<p>But ho! Morse notes that the problems with Microsoft and its search partnership still has not gotten better and thank goodness for that guarantee. This one&#8217;s on the software giant, but it is still not good.</p>
<p><strong>2:13 pm</strong>: Morse notes there will be no guidance until Mayer gets up to speed on the situation at Yahoo.</p>
<p>Let me give you the Cliff Notes version, Marissa: Revenue growth flat. Employee morale weak. Product innovation non-existent. Mobile &#8212; don&#8217;t make me cry. But you do have a video deal with Tom Hanks called &#8220;Electric City&#8221; that is launching today!</p>
<p><em>Yay!</em> Except you are now not a media company now that former interim CEO Ross Levinsohn has gotten jacked. </p>
<p>But the Olympics are coming, as are the U.S. elections, so you might want to hold onto that media excellence at Yahoo for a little while longer.</p>
<p><strong>2:17 pm</strong>: Morse finishes up the non-news script and we move into the Q&#038;A. </p>
<p>He warns: No Marissa queries!</p>
<p>The Wall Street analysts behave on cue &#8212; they never fail me on not asking the tough questions &#8212; and ask about the weakness in advertising pricing rates. </p>
<p>Morse talks about weakness in Europe, but gives a non-answer.</p>
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<p><strong>2:18 pm</strong>: Next a question about the stock buyback that Yahoo announced to get its shares back up to speed, using money from its partial sale of its Alibaba assets. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not working yet, given the stock has remained flat since forever.</p>
<p>A question on the advertising softness and comments on revenue per search. Good one!</p>
<p>Headwinds from broadband advertising! &#8220;We&#8217;ll have to live through it,&#8221; says Morse, which means when crappy comparisons will return to make the revenue fall-off seem less worse.</p>
<p>Onto declining engagement and declining search revenue. And a good query about what to do about Microsoft? </p>
<p>Perhaps another partner, like Google, to replace it? Actually, until Mayer was appointed yesterday, Yahoo execs were in talks with the search giant about various partnerships. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s presumably on hold for now, but we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>Yahoo has about nine months until the Microsoft guarantee falls off the cliff and Morse notes there is an out. </p>
<p>Tasty!</p>
<p><strong>2:25 pm</strong>: I&#8217;ll be honest &#8212; I am getting hugely bored hearing non-news about yet another unremarkable performance from Yahoo.</p>
<p>I needs me some Mayer ASAP &#8212; since she is, without a doubt, a fantastic character for Yahoo&#8217;s next chapter. As has been reported, it&#8217;s correct that she is not talking to me so far, but I am sure there will be plenty of material for me to work with going forward. </p>
<p>The next question is on mobile, which is a &#8220;big priority&#8221; for Yahoo, says Morse. Actually, it has hardly be a priority at all, despite the fact that the kids seem to love their smartphones.</p>
<p>Another Alibaba question, which is in all the filings. Let me break it down: Yahoo owns less, but it&#8217;s still a good investment for the future.</p>
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<p><strong>2:33 pm</strong>: Did I tell you I am bored. I am at the offices of Vanity Fair magazine blogging this and I am now reading a very good book they have on the shelf here titled &#8220;Vanity Fair&#8217;s Hollywood.&#8221; Does Sophia Loren ever take a bad photo? No, she does <em>not</em>! </p>
<p>Back to Yahoo! A question if Mayer will be talking before the next earnings call.</p>
<p>&#8220;I honestly just don&#8217;t know,&#8221; says Morse. But she is &#8220;mindful&#8221; of how much investors want to get a good gander at her.</p>
<p>A question on Yahoo Japan, another endless asset sale that the company has not yet completed. &#8220;There really is no update,&#8221; says Morse, blaming a valuation gap. </p>
<p>What a shock!</p>
<p>Morse is being very polite today and I like it. He&#8217;s been through the wringer at Yahoo since he got there, including a short stint as a temporary CEO. </p>
<p>I hope you have been taking notes, Tim!</p>
<p><strong>2:39 pm</strong>: A question on Facebook and, thankfully, on the choice of Mayer. I love when someone asks a question they have been asked not to ask.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t have a whole lot of color,&#8221; says Morse, noting her &#8220;resume speaks for itself.&#8221; It is apparently safe to say, adds Morse, that Yahoo has to be good at both tech and content.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re kidding! I had no idea! Thanks, polite Tim!</p>
<p>He also said Yahoo feels good about being on a steady footing with Facebook. Last call, the comments were about how much Yahoo was going to get Facebook to pay. </p>
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<p>Bygones!</p>
<p>I am back to the shelf at Vanity Fair, which is as delightfully entertaining as this call is not. Now, I am perusing the book, &#8220;Vanity Fair&#8217;s Proust Questionaire.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you know Sandra Bernhardt&#8217;s motto is: &#8220;Kiss &#8216;em, slap &#8216;em, send &#8216;em home.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am considering stealing that one as my new operating policy.</p>
<p>I missed the question about Yahoo&#8217;s ad consortium with AOL and Microsoft. &#8220;We&#8217;re making progress,&#8221; says Morse.</p>
<p><em>Aaaaagh.</em> But did you also know that Katie Couric&#8217;s motto is: &#8220;Nobody puts Baby in the corner.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is definitely my motto too if Yahoo PR does not get back to me on my 26 questions from this morning (you would think I would have gotten used to this by now!).</p>
<p>How I wish Mayer was not in the corner right now and we were listening to her. She talks really quickly, like a supernova, so I would love to see how analysts react to it. Not today!</p>
<p>Did you know Keith Richards&#8217; motto is: &#8220;I told you I was sick.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now <em>that</em> is funny.</p>
<p>There are no more questions, which is unusual, and Tim politely says his goodbyes and says to be in touch any old time.</p>
<p>Thus, I have to have a better ending for this and it comes via Donald Trump, whose motto is: &#8220;Think big and get the job done.&#8221;</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a pretty good tip for Yahoo and Mayer going forward.</p>
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		<title>Fat Lady Finally Sings: Yahoo and Alibaba Officially Shake on $7 Billion Stock Sale Deal (Updated)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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<p>As <strong>AllThingsD</strong> <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120517/exclusive-yahoo-finally-set-to-strike-alibaba-share-deal-half-now-then-half-of-whats-left-after-eventual-ipo/">reported several days ago they would</a>, Yahoo and Alibaba Group have finally reached an agreement for the Silicon Valley Internet giant to sell back half its stake in the Chinese Web company in a $7 billion deal.</p>
<p>The taxable shares sale agreement, which is now being approved by both boards, is part of a larger and more complex arrangement, which will also include a multibillion-dollar stock buyback by Yahoo and an eventual IPO of Alibaba.</p>
<p>And, perhaps most importantly, it will bring to an end what could be the longest running global cat fight in Internet history, in which the long-time partners have bickered over the terms of their relationship for years now.</p>
<p>It has mostly been over how they could get to the transaction they should be announcing later tonight (or morning in Hong Kong, which it is there now). While it could fall apart at the last minute, that is highly unlikely at this point.</p>
<p>(<strong>Update</strong>: The Yahoo board has approved the deal unanimously, said sources, so it is <em>done</em> done.)</p>
<p>(<strong>Update 2</strong>: Yahoo and Alibaba both confirmed the deal in a joint press release, which is below.)</p>
<p>Thus, after many failed attempts to strike <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120214/exclusive-yahoo-asia-deal-talks-off/">a tax-free deal</a> &#8212; also involving Yahoo&#8217;s Japanese partner, SoftBank &#8212; collapsed, the pair have finally settled on a taxable deal, which could net Yahoo upwards of $4 billion.</p>
<p>The transaction values Alibaba at $35 billion and is subject to a number of funding issues that could change the value of the deal. </p>
<p>But here is the overall situation, as I previously reported: </p>
<p>Yahoo is set to sell half of its roughly 40 percent stake in Alibaba, in a taxable deal. The transaction is likely to value that portion of Yahoo&#8217;s holdings at about $7 billion &#8212; or 20 percent of Alibaba&#8217;s $35 billion enterprise valuation. Alibaba is in the midst of raising capital to fund the sale.</p>
<p>After taxes of upward of 35 percent are paid on the long-term gains &#8212; remember that Yahoo bought the now-lucrative Alibaba stake for just $1 billion in 2005 &#8212; the company will use the funds to buy back its own shares. That stock has been caught in the mid-teens doldrums for quite a while, so this could help boost shares significantly.</p>
<p>A shareholder dividend is also being considered by the Yahoo board, but it is unlikely. It&#8217;s also not clear if some of the cash will be held back for acquisitions by Yahoo, sources added, but it is also unlikely.</p>
<p>As part of the deal, sources said, medium-term incentives have been put in place for Alibaba to move forward with a public offering, which sources stressed is without contractual obligation or a time frame. Alibaba execs have already been publicly indicating such a direction recently, but this will put them more firmly on that path.</p>
<p>Although there are no plans to go public as yet, the IPO incentive revolves around several terms, including the right to buy back half the remaining stake, which expires in December of 2015. As I previously reported, Yahoo will be required to sell back half of the 20 percent remaining stake upon IPO and the other half after that if Alibaba goes public in the time frame agreed to. </p>
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<p>Lastly, the Alibaba voting rights for both Yahoo and SoftBank are much diminished in the new deal, according to sources, to under 50 percent. </p>
<p>Translation: Alibaba CEO Jack Ma is now in the driver&#8217;s seat completely.</p>
<p>Once close, the pair have been wrangling over the large Yahoo ownership, which Ma has been trying to dislodge in a variety of nice and not-so-nice ways. It has resulted in a number of very public disagreements.</p>
<p>That included a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110601/alibaba-group-ceo-jack-ma-live-at-d9/">nasty back-and-forth over its Alipay unit</a> with now-fired CEO Carol Bartz, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110930/jack-ma-at-stanford-we-are-very-interested-in-buying-yahoo/">threats of takeover of Yahoo</a> with private equity firms and, more recently, making friendly with its just-ousted CEO, Scott Thompson.</p>
<p>Those talks with him in recent weeks, which included a visit to China by Thompson, led to the new deal, which was negotiated primarily between Yahoo&#8217;s CFO Tim Morse and legal head Mike Callahan and Ma and Alibaba&#8217;s Joe Tsai.</p>
<p>The talks continued even as Thompson was suddenly engulfed in a controversy over a fake computer science degree on his resume that quickly led to <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120513/yahoo-officially-confirms-atd-report-on-ceo-changes-and-proxy-settlement/">his departure from Yahoo</a>.</p>
<p>Ironically, the error was first discovered by activist shareholder Daniel Loeb, who is now voting on the deal as a newly named director of Yahoo, after successfully helping to oust Thompson.</p>
<p>He owns almost 6 percent of Yahoo.</p>
<p>The final decision to approve the deal was in the hands of a very new board of Yahoo, which has been drastically reshaped in recent weeks. It met to decide on the deal this weekend.</p>
<p>While the deal with Alibaba is finally nearing an end, Yahoo&#8217;s talks to sell its 33 percent stake in Yahoo! Japan is not part of this agreement. That&#8217;s due to what Thompson had called a &#8220;valuation gap,&#8221; which sources said is still an outstanding issue.</p>
<p>New interim CEO Ross Levinsohn has not been involved in the Alibaba deal in any significant way. But he certainly will benefit from its halo effect, if approved, especially given that it will likely boost Yahoo shares.</p>
<p>It also puts Yahoo in a unique situation, in which it must sink or swim more largely based on the value of its troubled core business.</p>
<p>That could mean a lot of things, including the eventual sale of the company, whose most lucrative asset recently &#8212; its Alibaba holding &#8212; will matter much less.</p>
<p>As soon as I get the press release, I will post it here, but no one is commenting, despite the inevitable happy ending to this long-running story.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the press release, finally:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p><strong>Yahoo! and Alibaba Reach Agreement on Comprehensive Plan for Alibaba Stake Agreement Realizes Significant Value, Immediate Liquidity and Path to Future Monetization</p>
<p>Yahoo! Board Increases Share Repurchase Plan by US$5 Billion</p>
<p>May 20, 2012 &#8212; Sunnyvale, California and Hangzhou, China &#8211;</strong> Yahoo! Inc. (NASDAQ: YHOO) and Alibaba Group Holding Limited today announced they have entered into a definitive agreement for a staged and comprehensive value realization plan for Yahoo!&#8217;s stake in Alibaba.</p>
<p>The first step is the repurchase by Alibaba of up to one-half of Yahoo!&#8217;s stake, or approximately 20% of Alibaba&#8217;s fully-diluted shares. The purchase price will be based on a valuation of Alibaba to be established through equity financings that Alibaba intends to undertake to finance the transaction, subject to a floor valuation of approximately US$35 billion. The agreement includes substantial financial incentives for Alibaba to raise the additional equity at a valuation higher than US$35 billion. At the minimum price and assuming the initial repurchase of the full 20% stake, Yahoo! would receive from Alibaba consideration of approximately US$7.1 billion, composed of at least US$6.3 billion in cash proceeds and up to US$800 million in newly-issued Alibaba preferred stock. </p>
<p>The agreement also establishes a framework for Yahoo! to monetize its remaining interest in Alibaba in stages. First, at the time of an initial public offering (IPO) of Alibaba in the future, Alibaba will be required either to repurchase one-quarter of Yahoo!&#8217;s current stake at the IPO price or allow Yahoo! to sell those shares in the IPO. Second, following such an IPO, Yahoo! has registration rights and rights to marketing support from Alibaba to enable Yahoo! to dispose of its remaining shares, at times of Yahoo!’s choosing following a customary lock-up period.</p>
<p>This agreement is a result of extensive discussions between the two parties and a comprehensive review of both taxable and tax-efficient alternatives. Yahoo! and Alibaba believe this agreement to be the best path to align incentives and maximize value for shareholders of both companies and it paves the way for Alibaba to achieve future public market liquidity for all of Alibaba&#8217;s shareholders. For Yahoo!, the agreement provides for a staged exit over time, balancing near-term liquidity and return of cash to shareholders with the opportunity to participate in future value appreciation of Alibaba.</p>
<p>&#8220;Today&#8217;s agreement provides clarity for our shareholders on a substantial component of Yahoo!’s value and reaffirms the significance of our relationship with Alibaba,&#8221; said Ross Levinsohn, Interim CEO of Yahoo!. &#8220;We look forward to continued collaboration with the Alibaba team on business initiatives as we explore joint opportunities for growth and benefit from Alibaba&#8217;s future.  I want to thank Jack Ma, Joe Tsai and the Alibaba team, as well as Tim Morse, Michael Callahan and our Yahoo! team for their dedication in achieving this successful outcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This transaction opens a new chapter in our relationship with Yahoo!,&#8221; said Jack Ma, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Alibaba Group. &#8220;I look forward to working with Ross Levinsohn and the Yahoo! team as Alibaba builds China&#8217;s leading e-commerce company. Yahoo!&#8217;s global audience reach will provide attractive partnership opportunities for Alibaba to explore markets outside of China. The transaction will establish a balanced ownership structure that enables Alibaba to take our business to the next level as a public company in the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We look forward to delivering the proceeds of the near-term transaction to our shareholders, and to the further enhancement of value and the additional monetization in the future that this agreement enables,&#8221; said Timothy R. Morse, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Yahoo!.  </p>
<p>In addition to the share repurchase, the companies have also agreed to amend their existing technology and intellectual property licensing agreement. Among other things, this amendment will result in Yahoo! granting Alibaba a transitional license to continue to operate Yahoo! China under the Yahoo! brand for up to four years, while restrictions on Yahoo!&#8217;s ability to make other investments in China will be terminated. Alibaba will make an upfront lump sum royalty payment of US$550 million to Yahoo! and continuing royalty payments for up to four years. In addition, Alibaba will license certain patents to Yahoo!. Upon closing of the repurchase transaction, the Alibaba shareholders&#8217; agreement will be amended so that the parties’ respective rights will be commensurate with the parties’ post-closing level of ownership in Alibaba. Yahoo! will continue to be represented on Alibaba’s board of directors with the right to appoint one of four existing directors.</p>
<p>Yahoo! intends to return substantially all of the after-tax cash proceeds to shareholders following the closing of the transaction. While the form of the return of capital to shareholders has not yet been finalized, Yahoo!&#8217;s board has increased Yahoo!&#8217;s share buyback authorization by US $5 billion concurrently with this transaction.</p>
<p>The transaction is subject to customary closing conditions. Alibaba will be required to close the repurchase with respect to at least one-quarter of Yahoo!’s current stake in Alibaba regardless of the amount of financing raised, and up to one-half of Yahoo!&#8217;s current stake if it obtains the requisite financing. Alibaba intends to finance the repurchase through a combination of its own cash resources, debt, equity and equity-linked financing. The transaction is expected to close within approximately six months.</p>
<p>UBS Investment Bank acted as lead financial advisor to Yahoo! and Allen &#038; Company LLC and Goldman Sachs &#038; Co. also served as financial advisors. Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher &#038; Flom LLP acted as lead legal counsel to Yahoo! and Weil, Gotshal &#038; Manges LLP also acted as legal counsel. Munger, Tolles, &#038; Olson LLP acted as legal counsel to the Yahoo! Board of Directors. Credit Suisse acted as lead financial advisor to Alibaba and Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen &#038; Katz acted as lead legal counsel to Alibaba. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP acted as counsel to Alibaba on certain financing and Hong Kong legal matters and Fenwick &#038; West LLP acted as counsel to Alibaba on intellectual property matters.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Exclusive: Yahoo Finally Set to Strike Alibaba Share Deal -- Half Now, Then Half of What's Left After Eventual IPO</title>
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<p>Yahoo is in the final stages of selling a large chunk of its stake in the Alibaba Group back to the company &#8212; in a complex deal that is set to include a multibillion-dollar share buyback to investors of the Silicon Valley Internet giant and an eventual IPO of the Chinese company &#8212; according to multiple sources close to the situation.</p>
<p>The deal has yet to be officially approved by the boards of both companies, but sources said it is likely to be, and could be announced as early as Monday.</p>
<p>This all could change, of course, since negotiations between Alibaba and Yahoo have taken place in a variety of ways in recent years, without success and with much acrimony. <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120214/exclusive-yahoo-asia-deal-talks-off/">Talks over a tax-free deal</a> &#8212; also involving Yahoo&#8217;s Japanese partner, SoftBank &#8212; collapsed in February, for example.</p>
<p>But the 324th time is apparently the charm &#8212; so here are the details of what looks to be a nearly complete agreement that I have ferreted out thus far from lots of relieved sources familiar with the situation:</p>
<p>Yahoo will sell half of its roughly 40 percent stake in Alibaba, in a taxable deal. The transaction is likely to value that portion of Yahoo&#8217;s holdings at about $7 billion &#8212; or 20 percent of Alibaba&#8217;s $35 billion enterprise valuation. Alibaba is in the midst of raising capital to fund the sale.</p>
<p>After taxes of upward of 35 percent are paid on the long-term gains &#8212; remember that Yahoo bought the now-lucrative Alibaba stake for a fraction of that, many years ago &#8212; the company will likely use the funds to buy back its own shares. That stock has been caught in the mid-teens doldrums for quite a while.</p>
<p>A shareholder dividend is also being considered. It&#8217;s not clear if some of the cash will be held back for acquisitions by Yahoo, sources added, but it is unlikely.</p>
<p>As part of the deal, sources said, incentives have been put in place for Alibaba to move forward with a public offering, which sources stressed is without the contractual obligation or a time frame. Alibaba execs have already been publicly indicating such a direction recently, but this will put them more firmly on that path.</p>
<p>In return, Yahoo has agreed to sell the remaining quarter of its current holdings when that IPO does occur. It would then have an only 10 percent stake of Alibaba, which it could sell at any time after the IPO.</p>
<p>If finally struck, the transaction will finally bring to an end one of the more protracted and disputed relationships in the Internet world.</p>
<p>Once close, the pair have been wrangling over the large Yahoo ownership, which Alibaba CEO Jack Ma has been trying to dislodge in a variety of nice and not-so-nice ways. It has resulted in a number of very public disagreements.</p>
<p>That included a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110601/alibaba-group-ceo-jack-ma-live-at-d9/">nasty back-and-forth over its Alipay unit</a> with now-fired CEO Carol Bartz, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110930/jack-ma-at-stanford-we-are-very-interested-in-buying-yahoo/">threats of takeover of Yahoo</a> with private equity firms and, more recently, making friendly with its just-ousted CEO, Scott Thompson.</p>
<p>Those talks with him in recent weeks, which included a visit to China by Thompson, led to the new deal, which was negotiated primarily between Yahoo&#8217;s CFO Tim Morse and legal head Mike Callahan and Ma and Alibaba&#8217;s Joe Tsai.</p>
<p>The talks continued even as Thompson was suddenly engulfed in a controversy over a fake computer science degree on his resume that quickly led to <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120513/yahoo-officially-confirms-atd-report-on-ceo-changes-and-proxy-settlement/">his departure from Yahoo</a> on Sunday.</p>
<p>Ironically, the error was first discovered by activist shareholder Daniel Loeb, who will now vote on the deal as a newly named director of Yahoo, after successfully helping to oust Thompson.</p>
<p>He owns almost 6 percent of Yahoo, and is expected to approve the transaction.</p>
<p>But the final decision to approve the deal will be in the hands of a very new board of Yahoo, which has been drastically reshaped in recent weeks. It is meeting tomorrow and perhaps over the weekend to vote on it.</p>
<p>While the deal with Alibaba looks to be nearing an end, Yahoo&#8217;s talks to sell its 33 percent stake in Yahoo Japan is not part of this agreement. That&#8217;s due to what Thompson had called a &#8220;valuation gap,&#8221; which sources said is still an outstanding issue.</p>
<p>New interim CEO Ross Levinsohn has not been involved in the Alibaba deal in any significant way. But he certainly will benefit from its halo effect, if approved, especially given that it will likely boost Yahoo shares.</p>
<p>Next up for Levinsohn, who has just <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120517/levinsohns-management-musical-chairs-at-yahoo-internal-memo/">rejiggered Yahoo management</a> again, other sources said, is an effort to settle the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120516/even-as-settlement-hopes-appear-facebook-blames-shoddy-checking-in-answer-to-yahoo-patent-fraud-claim/">patent-infringement lawsuit</a> with Facebook, and also to renegotiate its search deal with Microsoft.</p>
<p>And, oh yes, fix Yahoo&#8217;s rocky core-advertising business, which is still in distress and needs a major overhaul to push it back to growth.</p>
<p>But that, as they say, is yet another episode of Yahoo&#8217;s ongoing reality show.</p>
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		<title>Here's Dan Loeb's Letter to Investors About the Value of Yahoo's Alibaba Stake</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[China is emperor at Yahoo, says activist shareholder.]]></description>
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<p>I got ahold of parts of the fourth-quarter 2011 investor letter that the New York-based Third Point hedge fund &#8212; which is <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120214/breaking-activist-shareholder-dan-loeb-starts-proxy-fight-at-yahoo/">prepping a proxy fight</a> with Yahoo &#8212; is sending out tomorrow.</p>
<p>(The <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203961204577271940396449570.html">Wall Street Journal</a> did a short post after it had reviewed excerpts of the letter, but had no text, so here is the real thing about Yahoo in its entirety, folks!)</p>
<p>The letter includes a long section about how Third Point&#8217;s main man Dan Loeb feels about Yahoo, and especially in the value of its investment in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group. The stakes that the Silicon Valley Internet giant hold in Asia &#8212; including in Yahoo Japan &#8212; make up for a great deal of its valuation now, as many know and as the activist shareholder points out in detail.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the Yahoo-Alibaba part, titled &#8220;The Case for Alibaba,&#8221; in what is a very sharp analysis &#8212; except for the part about dinging the press (not <em>nice</em>, Danno!):</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>Long Equity: Yahoo! &#8212; The Case for Alibaba</p>
<p>As investors are aware, we established a sizeable position in Yahoo following a difficult operational and strategic stretch during the waning days of CEO Carol Bartz&#8217;s tenure that culminated in a significant sell-off in the shares in August. Initially, we were attracted to the company simply by its significant discount to intrinsic value. In September, we announced publicly that we had accumulated 5.2% of the shares of the company and laid out our case for why valuation was depressed. While the travails of &#8220;core Yahoo&#8221; grab all the headlines, core Yahoo forms only a modest portion of the Company&#8217;s actual value (a mere $2.00 per share, trading at ~14.49 as of 03/12/12). The after-tax value of Yahoo&#8217;s Asian assets &#8212; Alibaba and Yahoo! Japan &#8212; currently constitutes $11 per share of its value (73%), with an additional $2 per share of net cash.</p>
<p>Central to our investment thesis is the hidden jewel in the Asian asset portfolio, and indeed in Yahoo itself: Yahoo&#8217;s 40% stake in Alibaba Group, the dominant e-commerce platform in China. According to iResearch, Alibaba currently has 49% of the B2B e-commerce market (four times greater than its nearest competitor), 90% of the C2C e-commerce market (analogous to Ebay), and 53% of the B2C e-commerce market (analogous to Amazon) in 2011. It has complemented these core commerce positions with the leading online payment platform, Alipay, with 49% market share, and also holds the #2 share of the Chinese online ad market (17%, behind Baidu at 28%). Particularly exciting is Alibaba&#8217;s share of China&#8217;s rapidly growing B2C market represented by Taobao Mall, or Tmall (recently renamed Tian Mao).</p>
<p>According to iResearch, China had 187 million online shoppers in 2011, compared to 170 million in the U.S. As Boston Consulting Group noted in its November 2011 report, &#8220;The World’s Next E-Commerce Superpower,&#8221; e-commerce transaction value in China is likely to overtake the U.S. by 2015, helped by conditions that mirror the U.S. and in some ways favor e-commerce in China. A combination of broad product assortments and lower prices mirror the U.S., while e-commerce in China benefits from the fixed price certainty missing in China&#8217;s traditional retail culture (where haggling is common), from relatively lower shipping costs than in the U.S., and from the limited geographic reach of brick-and-mortar chains. </p>
<p>The Boston Consulting Group report highlights &#8220;The Taobao Phenomenon&#8221; and notes more products were purchased on Taobao in 2010 than at China’s top-five brick and mortar retailers combined.</p>
<p>The scale and velocity of China&#8217;s e-commerce opportunity, when combined with Alibaba&#8217;s dominant position, make for a very compelling story. As it moves toward an IPO, Alibaba should quickly take its place amongst China&#8217;s online leaders &#8212; Tencent ($47 billion market cap), and Baidu ($48 billion market cap). A November 2011 report on Softbank by UBS&#8217;s Makio Inui, the product of extensive research into Alibaba Group and a detailed valuation, placed a $63 billion value on Alibaba Group, which would imply just over $13 per Yahoo share after tax. It appears that while 2012 will be the year of Facebook, 2013 could very well be the year of Alibaba as it moves toward a listing.</p>
<p>At the reported $35 billion valuation ascribed to the October 2011 purchase of employee shares by Silver Lake, Temasek and Yunfeng (an affiliate of CEO Jack Ma), Yahoo’s stake was worth ~$7.60 per share after tax. That implies Yahoo&#8217;s stake has grown at a compounded rate of 55% per annum since its investment in October 2005, and it is significant that the majority of Yahoo&#8217;s value is now driven by its Alibaba stake. </p>
<p>Clearly, as evidenced above, we see tremendous upside in just the Alibaba piece of the Yahoo puzzle.<br />
While the media has covered the drama surrounding the negotiations with Mr. Ma in some detail, Wall Street has continued to neglect the underlying Alibaba valuation story and the press makes too little of it. Certainly there is some compelling reason why Mr. Ma is so interested in repurchasing Yahoo&#8217;s stake! We share his excitement and enthusiasm for the Alibaba opportunity, and we respect and appreciate the dominant and dynamic franchise he has built amongst the world’s largest base of Internet users.</p>
<p>Over the last six months we have witnessed the Board of Directors&#8217; &#8220;strategic review&#8221; that has to date resulted in the hiring of a new CEO, Scott Thompson, the resignation of Jerry Yang, and the pending exit of Board Chairman Roy Bostock and three other Directors. In mid-February we announced that we intend to run our own slate of Directors for the Yahoo board during this proxy season. We stated our intention to nominate well-known leaders in the media space Jeff Zucker and Michael Wolf, restructuring guru Harry Wilson, and Dan himself to the Board. We are glad Yahoo has played a critical role in Alibaba&#8217;s early development and hope new leadership at Yahoo can chart a new course for the company&#8217;s relationship with Mr. Ma and Alibaba.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Exclusive: Yahoo Asia Deal Talks Off for Now</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You thought this was going to be easy? Think again!]]></description>
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<p>According to sources close to the situation, the discussions between Yahoo and its Asian partners have hit a potentially deal-breaking impasse over the efficacy of the centerpiece of the complex negotiations &#8212; a cash-rich split-off &#8212; and several other issues.</p>
<p>Sources said talks have halted for now over an arrangement with China&#8217;s Alibaba Group and Japan&#8217;s SoftBank, designed to save the Silicon Valley Internet giant over $4 billion in U.S. taxes. The deal values Yahoo&#8217;s lucrative stakes in Alibaba and Yahoo Japan at around $17 billion.</p>
<p>Of course, such volatility is part of any complicated negotiation. This one is a doozy, and on a global scale.</p>
<p>Thus, progress could resume at any time and could manifest itself in a different manner, such as a taxable transaction.</p>
<p>Teams from all sides were just in Hong Kong this week in the latest round of discussions, which seems to have spurred the new issues, which include over-valuation.</p>
<p>&#8220;Getting to the promised land has been very hard,&#8221; said one person close to the situation, noting that there have been several increasingly challenging parts of the deal.</p>
<p>That includes all the frantic machinations around the talks, which have &#8212; to be fair &#8212; broken down significantly before, including around the holidays.</p>
<p>Those have gotten back on track, but sources on all sides noted there has been a toll as the agreements have gotten more advanced. </p>
<p>&#8220;The cumulative effect of all the disagreements of a deal already on the edge has not helped matters,&#8221; said one person.</p>
<p>In addition, as I have previously noted, time is brain, and circumstances at Yahoo and in Asian have shifted a great deal since the talks began in the Fall. Yahoo has a new CEO, Scott Thompson, and has just had an important board shake-up, even as the value of its Asian stake has increased.</p>
<p>It is also not clear if the problems are limited to just the part of the deal with Alibaba, or with both partners. But several sources on the Asian side said that Alibaba and SoftBank are aligned closely on completing a joint deal, for which Alibaba has been negotiating loans to complete. </p>
<p>Now, those sources are characterizing the talks as completely stopped, blaming Yahoo negotiators for suddenly shifting course on what they want from the arrangement. </p>
<p>&#8220;The cash-rich deal seems dead now,&#8221; said one source.</p>
<p>For its part, sources close to Yahoo said that it has not walked away from discussions, noting this might be a ploy on the part of its Asian partners, although they did acknowledge that there have been increasing difficulties coming to an agreement.</p>
<p>Still, they stressed that Yahoo was committed to trying to do some sort of deal, and the latest problems might only signal a temporary retrenchment. Yahoo is likely to make some sort of statement on the issue soon.</p>
<p>The collapse of talks is still sudden, since <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120206/yahoo-starts-making-wish-list-as-asian-deal-huffs-to-finish-line-and-board-changes-readied/">negotiations had been moving forward, if glacially, </a> with definitive agreements in draft and contemplation of possible properties to include in the deal. That&#8217;s because the cash-rich split-off requires part of the agreement be made up of operating assets. </p>
<p>As you can see here, in a <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204331304577143121744990212.html">Wall Street Journal chart</a>, it&#8217;s a pretty complicated deal:</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120206/yahoo-starts-making-wish-list-as-asian-deal-huffs-to-finish-line-and-board-changes-readied/mk-br479a_cashr_d_20120105182116-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-171215"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/02/MK-BR479A_CASHR_D_20120105182116.png?resize=262%2C396" alt="" title="MK-BR479A_CASHR_D_20120105182116" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-171215" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>And, in his goodbye letter upon announcing his pending departure as chairman of Yahoo, while publicly acknowledging them, Roy Bostock did note the possibility of the talks not working out because of that.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are also in active discussions with our partners in Asia regarding the possibility of restructuring our holdings in Alibaba Group and Yahoo! Japan. The complexity and unique nature of these transactions is significant. While we continue to devote significant resources to these discussions, we are not in a position at this time to provide further detail or to provide assurance that any transaction will be achieved.&#8221;</p>
<p>That will likely be a disappointment to investors, who have bid up shares in anticipation of such a deal occurring. Yahoo&#8217;s stock is now trading in the $16 range, well up from earlier this year.</p>
<p>(<strong>Update:</strong> Yahoo shares dropped significantly since my report, down more than 5 percent now, with Wall Street giving any end to the talks a thumbs-down.)</p>
<p>The situation could now land on the already heavy plate of Yahoo&#8217;s new leader, Thompson, who has been dealing with a number of pressing issues at the company since he arrived last month.</p>
<p>Welcome to the dollhouse, Scott!</p>
<p>More to come, of course.</p>
<p>And, for the record, no comments all around. (But I tried!)</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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<p>Yahoo&#8217;s massive product unit is readying a major reorganization, which will include a new structure, a move that is being spearheaded by its Chief Product Officer, Blake Irving.</p>
<p>But the ground under Irving, as well as several of the Silicon Valley Internet giant&#8217;s top execs, is about to get shakier too, due to a wide range of changes now being plotted by newly installed CEO Scott Thompson.</p>
<p>While still in the early stages of formulation, sources said Thompson has been mulling bringing in a head of global advertising sales or revenue chief, as well as more top product execs, as he moves to initiate a plan to shake up Yahoo and also put his own stamp on the company.</p>
<p>Layoffs and possible wholesale abandonment of certain businesses Yahoo is currently in are likely to be parts of this larger plan.</p>
<p>Confused yet? So am I, but let&#8217;s sort through all the latest activity.</p>
<p>First, there&#8217;s the Yahoo product redo, which has been in the making for a while, well before Thompson arrived last month. </p>
<p>Under the new plan, which is described as &#8220;an evolution rather than blowing up the place,&#8221; Yahoo&#8217;s famously matrixed product unit could be split into three distinct areas: Monetization, which is expected to be headed by longtime exec Mark Morrissey; platform, with cloud dude Jay Rossiter in charge; and consumer-facing products, possibly in the hands of search kingpin Shashi Seth.</p>
<p>The idea behind the latest setup, presumably, is to spur innovation and make it easier for Yahoo to spit out products more quickly. Its recent Livestand tablet app, for example, was late to the game and continues to struggle to gain any real ground, said sources.</p>
<p>Overall, Yahoo still continues to lag behind other Internet rivals in a number of product arenas, for reasons that Thompson is delving into.</p>
<p>The way products are made got a long look-see this past week, in a day-long meeting that Thompson had with Yahoo&#8217;s top team execs. Thompson reportedly quizzed the group on its plans, and pressed it to look less at short-term features and maintenance than on finding the next great thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s fair to say that Scott is wondering why Yahoo did not come up with innovations like Pinterest and Instagram,&#8221; said one person about hot new start-ups that are in the sweet spot of Yahoo&#8217;s business. &#8220;Or, at the very least, why it did not even try to buy them.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120212/yahoo-product-unit-readies-major-exec-reorg-but-its-just-a-tremor-for-the-big-one-to-come/470px-japanese_road_sign_way_narrowssvg/" rel="attachment wp-att-173775"><img src="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/02/470px-japanese_road_sign_way_narrowssvg-285x285.png?resize=285%2C285" alt="" title="470px-japanese_road_sign_way_narrowssvg" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-173775" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Thompson, with the help of board members, including David Kenny, has been on the hunt for new talent for Yahoo. That includes a search that is on for a new head of marketing, too. </p>
<p>Thompson has been doing the same kind of assessment with Yahoo&#8217;s media and advertising execs, who include Americas head Ross Levinsohn, as well as Asia&#8217;s Rose Tsou, and Rich Riley, who heads its efforts in Europe, Africa and the Middle East.</p>
<p>Sources said he believes that Yahoo might need a head of global sales or a chief of revenue to better organize and align its key advertising business. Ad revenues now make up a bulk of Yahoo&#8217;s business.</p>
<p>As Thompson has said numerous times publicly since he came on board, he is seeking to diversify that revenue, focusing on new businesses and also goosing non-ad ones already performing well. In Asia, for example, Yahoo has a robust online commerce business in comparison to other regions. </p>
<p>&#8220;Yahoo has to slim down and focus in some ways and bulk up in others,&#8221; said another source.</p>
<p>Of course, all of this might be moot, depending on how <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120209/ready-to-rumble-or-make-nice-activist-shareholder-daniel-loeb-could-strike-sooner-than-yahoo-thinks/">activist shareholder Daniel Loeb</a>, who is prepping his own frontal attack on making changes at Yahoo, decides to move. According to sources, Loeb is assembling his own slate and trying to garner support from other shareholders, in hopes of further improving the value of his more than five percent stake.</p>
<p>What form that will take is unclear, but it&#8217;s not completely friendly at the moment.</p>
<p>In addition, Yahoo execs and its board are trying to wrap up a deal to sell off parts of its Asian assets in Alibaba Group and Yahoo Japan, part of a massive arrangement that could bring many billions of dollars of assets and cash into the core company that is left. </p>
<p>Which could then make Yahoo more able to compete, and give Thompson a war chest to do so &#8212; <em>or</em> make it an even tastier treat for a wide range of outside investors looking for a deal.</p>
<p>Like I said: Confused yet?</p>
<p>A Yahoo spokeswoman declined to comment.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Starts Making Wish List, as Asian Deal Huffs to Finish Line and Board Changes Readied</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here's a big, honking update on the Silicon Valley Internet giant's various machinations for you!]]></description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s be clear on the much-awaited Asian deal that Yahoo and its Asian partners have been working on: While it is certainly still moving forward, once signed, it will not actually officially close until next year.</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right &#8212; <em>2013</em>!</p>
<p>Still, what everyone and his investor is waiting for is the splashy announcement of the agreement, which involves the Silicon Valley Internet giant, China&#8217;s Alibaba Group and SoftBank, a large shareholder in Yahoo Japan.</p>
<p>Yahoo leadership has been hoping that could happen before Feb. 24, an <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/come-west-daniel-loeb-a-silicon-valley-visit-as-as-yahoos-activist-shareholder-mulls-proxy-fight/">important date after which activist shareholder Daniel Loeb</a> could begin to mount a proxy fight against the current board.</p>
<p>And while the definitive agreement &#8212; involving the sale of Yahoo&#8217;s 33 percent stake in Alibaba and 35 percent stake in Yahoo Japan &#8212; has been moving back and forth among the dealmakers, one source said its completion might take a little longer than that, perhaps even into mid-March.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is one of the most complicated cross-border transactions in a long time,&#8221; said one person close to the situation. &#8220;It&#8217;s three different languages, three time zones and three companies that have not always seen eye to eye.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that the companies don&#8217;t have the top talent on the effort. For Yahoo, it is CFO Tim Morse (who most recently also warmed the CEO seat, until Scott Thompson&#8217;s recent appointment); for Alibaba, it&#8217;s CEO Jack Ma and CFO Joe Tsai; and, for SoftBank, it is top man Masa Son and his top man Ron Fisher.</p>
<p>To make things even more complex, at the same time as the negotiating is going on, the trio also has to pay mind to how the Internal Revenue Service in the U.S. is going to view the whole deal. </p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120206/yahoo-starts-making-wish-list-as-asian-deal-huffs-to-finish-line-and-board-changes-readied/mk-br479a_cashr_d_20120105182116-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-171215"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2012/02/MK-BR479A_CASHR_D_20120105182116.png?resize=262%2C396" alt="" title="MK-BR479A_CASHR_D_20120105182116" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-171215" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see here from a <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204331304577143121744990212.html">Wall Street Journal chart</a>, it&#8217;s a pretty complicated &#8220;cash-rich split-off&#8221; to avoid taxes.</p>
<p>While the IRS cannot take an application for a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_letter_ruling">&#8220;private letter ruling&#8221;</a> until it has an actual agreement in hand, and will not issue one on a hypothetical transaction, the agreement still must be crafted so it is most likely to pass muster.</p>
<p>And only then can anyone move on to the many billions of dollars that Yahoo will instruct Alibaba and SoftBank to pay or contribute in kind for the asset part of the arrangement.</p>
<p>As the Journal noted, in more clarity than I ever could: &#8220;A key part of satisfying tax-code requirements is that the company shedding its shares get assets, not just cash, in exchange for them. Cash can&#8217;t account for more than two-thirds of the transferred value, tax rules say. This restriction was adopted in 2005 to limit misuse of the provision.&#8221;</p>
<p>While Yahoo&#8217;s execs have met about the various possibilities, it is more considering now than anything else.</p>
<p>And although a lot of names have been bandied about &#8212; Weather Channel, WebMD, as well as Glam Media and even Digg &#8212; the more likely direction Yahoo will go in will be different, according to many sources.</p>
<p>First, said sources, the key criteria for the purchase will be to diversify revenue streams, a theme Thompson sounded in his <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120124/so-new-yahoo-ceo-scott-thompson-how-bad-is-it/">first earnings report</a> recently. That could mean more online commerce, perhaps, rather than advertising or media assets.</p>
<p>Second, said sources, international properties might be more valuable to Yahoo than owning more U.S.-based ones, which opens up a range of interesting possibilities.</p>
<p>This could even include some already held by Alibaba, for example, such as garnering a big stake in its publicly-traded Alibaba.com. That property has become a prime candidate for the deal, said several sources, for a number of reasons.</p>
<p>Technically, via Alibaba, Yahoo already owns some of the e-commerce giant, but not directly. Another possibility is to get back the Yahoo China business, also now owned by Alibaba. </p>
<p>Third, U.S. companies that Yahoo might look at could be unusual and even bold. Two names brought up in recent internal meetings, for example, were Netflix (before its stock revived) and Yelp (which is prepping for an IPO, and which Yahoo once tried to buy already).</p>
<p>And if things were not already needlessly complex in fixing its Asia problem, expect a change in the Yahoo board composition, too, as early as this week. </p>
<p>As I previously reported, at least <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120117/sources-four-more-board-members-will-be-following-yang-out-the-door/">four directors are expected to move on</a>. More to the point, there will also be replacements announced at the same time.</p>
<p>To stave off Loeb and even give him a perceptible win, sources said the company is considering announcing the changes sooner than later, with the hope that fresh new members will placate other shareholders.</p>
<p>Lastly, with Thompson starting to take the reins after a month there, I would also expect he&#8217;ll weigh in on some significant restructuring (his word, not mine!) at Yahoo soon enough, too.</p>
<p>Complicated? Sure is! Perplexing even? And how! But until Asian and board resolutions, the real work of fixing Yahoo can&#8217;t really begin.</p>
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		<title>As Weak Q4 Earnings Loom, Yahoo Freezes Hiring and Also Contemplates Layoffs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[More not-good news from Silicon Valley's troubled giant.]]></description>
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<p>According to sources close to the situation, Yahoo has instituted a hiring freeze across the company and is considering a reduction in force in support units of the company. </p>
<p>While the details of any layoffs &#8212; which are expected to be small and selective for now &#8212; are still being worked out, sources said that the stricture not to fill hundreds of open positions is the first step toward significant cost-cutting initiatives across the Silicon Valley Internet giant, in the wake of what it expects to be another weak quarterly report next week and a looming proxy fight.</p>
<p>Yahoo reports its fourth quarter earnings Tuesday. While the company has managed to improve the results in the last part of the quarter, sources said they will still show continued weakness in its key businesses and consumer usage.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s as competitors such as Google and Facebook have been showing significant growth, especially in the display advertising market.</p>
<p>Thus, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120104/confirmed-yahoo-names-paypal-head-scott-thompson-as-new-head/">new Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson</a> appears to be zeroing in on costs and managing for margins, said multiple sources, much as his predecessor Carol Bartz did at the start of her tenure.</p>
<p>But many think Yahoo needs even more drastic changes, including massive cuts in staff and also product arenas, to give the company new life.</p>
<p>That includes shifts in leadership at the top levels too. In a major move this week, co-founder <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120117/jerry-yangs-decision-to-leave-yahoo-was-his-own-even-if-it-was-inevitable/">Jerry Yang stepped down</a> from the company&#8217;s board and all roles there. More <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120117/sources-four-more-board-members-will-be-following-yang-out-the-door/">directors are expected to leave</a> soon, too.</p>
<p>That will likely come after <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/yahapocalypse-now-q4-results-proxy-fight-board-hijinks-and-asia-solution-combine-for-busy-month-for-yahoo/">negotiations to sell part of its lucrative stakes</a> in both the Alibaba Group and Yahoo Japan are successfully completed.</p>
<p>While not a certainty, Yahoo&#8217;s board hopes that will happen sometime before <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120109/come-west-daniel-loeb-a-silicon-valley-visit-as-as-yahoos-activist-shareholder-mulls-proxy-fight/">activist shareholder Daniel Loeb initiates a proxy battle</a> against the company in the coming month. </p>
<p>Sound complex? </p>
<p>It is, and also troubling to Yahoo&#8217;s long beleaguered rank and file, who have been <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120110/yahoo-employees-fear-layoffs-as-thompson-brings-new-vision/">worried about more layoffs</a>.</p>
<p>The Yahoo troops have been under intense pressure and have suffered from ongoing attrition. Just yesterday, for example, Yahoo lost one of its top advertising execs, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20120118/yahoo-loses-top-sales-exec-to-amazon/">Seth Dallaire</a>, to Amazon.</p>
<p>The company can ill afford such departures of key talent, even as it seeks to pare employee numbers in other parts of its business.</p>
<p>At the end of its last quarter, Yahoo reported that it had 13,700 staffers, down from 14,100 in the previous year. </p>
<p>Yahoo, of course, declined comment. </p>
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		<title>Exclusive: Yahoo Poised to Name CEO -- With eBay's PayPal Prez as Top Choice</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has Yahoo found its new Prince Charming in PayPal President Scott Thompson?]]></description>
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<p>According to sources close to the situation, Yahoo is poised to name a CEO, an announcement that could come as early as tomorrow.</p>
<p>Sources said the leading candidate likely to get the nod is a dark horse and someone who has not been named in previous reports (and not on my suggested lists!): PayPal President Scott Thompson, who runs eBay&#8217;s massive online payments unit.</p>
<p>While the situation could certainly change, the Yahoo board has <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111220/yahoo-intensifies-search-for-ceo-with-hulus-kilar-as-dream-unicorn-candidate/">definitely been moving aggressively of late to try to find a new leader</a> for the Silicon Valley Internet giant.</p>
<p>The company <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110906/exclusive-carol-bartz-out-at-yahoo-cfo-interim-ceo/">fired its last CEO, Carol Bartz</a>, in September; Yahoo has been run by the board and also by interim CEO Tim Morse, who had previously been its CFO.</p>
<p>After Bartz&#8217;s ouster, Yahoo said it was looking at a range of strategic options, including the possible sale of all or part of the company. </p>
<p>That was the focus at first, although Yahoo had simultaneously <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111013/exlcusive-yahoo-hires-heidrick-struggles-for-ceo-search/">hired Heidrick &#038; Struggles</a> to look for a new CEO. </p>
<p>The company attracted <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/yahoo-bidders-come-in-at-16-50-to-17-50-with-plan-to-keep-jerry-yang-staying-on-board/">two partial investment bids from private equity firms</a>, Silver Lake and TPG Capital, but shareholders were unhappy with the low prices of these so-called PIPE &#8212; Private Investment in Public Equity &#8212; arrangements.</p>
<p>Yahoo then moved to try to strike a tax-advantaged deal with its long-disgruntled Asian partners, China&#8217;s Alibaba Group and Japan&#8217;s SoftBank, to sell back parts of the large stakes it has long owned in Alibaba and Yahoo! Japan. </p>
<p>Those <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111223/yahoo-okays-proceeding-with-term-sheet-to-sell-stakes-back-to-asian-partners-while-also-hoping-to-keep-pe-firms-in-fray/">complex negotiations are still ongoing and look promising</a>, which could yield Yahoo billions of dollars in capital to be given to investors, for stock buybacks or to invest in new initiatives.</p>
<p>Since then, the board &#8212; long considered one of the more cloddish in tech &#8212; has turned its attention to hiring a new CEO, in the hopes of trying once again to revive its flagging fortunes.</p>
<p>Thus, it began looking to hire someone with deep tech experience at a large public consumer Internet company in Silicon Valley. </p>
<p>That narrowed the field, with Yahoo looking at a range of choices with expertise in advertising, technology platforms and more. </p>
<p>There is a lot of that on the deep bench that eBay CEO John Donahoe has assembled at the online commerce giant, including Thompson.</p>
<p>Plus, he is a genuine Internet geek.</p>
<p>According to his eBay bio, Thompson became president of PayPal in early 2008, after serving as its CTO in charge of information technology, product development and architecture.</p>
<p>Before eBay, he worked at Inovant, a subsidiary of Visa formed to oversee global technology for the organization. He was also CIO of Barclays Global Investors and has worked at Coopers and Lybrand on information technology. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a tasty new wrinkle: Thompson recently <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=609937772&#038;sk=wall">&#8220;liked&#8221; Yahoo on his Facebook page</a>, along with the decidedly more interesting Kickstarter and Splunk.</p>
<p>(Dear Scott, Nice to meet you. And thanks for the tip! FYI, it&#8217;s a juicy giveaway like <em>that</em> which feeds my insatiable quest to find out All Things Yahoo!)</p>
<p>More to come soon, I expect.</p>
<p>Yahoo, as usual, never got back to me on my query, although the much more cordial people at eBay politely declined to comment.</p>
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		<title>Here Are Some More Yahoo CEO Choices: Liddell, Rosenblatt, Desmond</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let's throw a few more names on the fire!]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s the typically newsless time around Christmas and New Year&#8217;s, but for once there has actually been a lot going on at Yahoo.</p>
<p>Last week, the Silicon Valley Internet giant&#8217;s typically moribund board decided to <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111223/yahoo-okays-proceeding-with-term-sheet-to-sell-stakes-back-to-asian-partners-while-also-hoping-to-keep-pe-firms-in-fray/">move ahead with negotiations</a> to sell part of its stake in China&#8217;s Alibaba Group, as well as all of its shares in Yahoo Japan.</p>
<p>While that is still not a done deal, it adds clarity to the Yahoo mishegas, as current leaders there seek to turn around the company&#8217;s lagging fortunes.</p>
<p>Now, as Yahoo continues to contemplate a pair of partial investment bids by private equity firms Silver Lake and TPG Capital into 2012, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111220/yahoo-intensifies-search-for-ceo-with-hulus-kilar-as-dream-unicorn-candidate/">more focus will be on the selection of a CEO candidate</a> to take over, sources said.</p>
<p>While I have floated some names that have been contemplated &#8212; such as Hulu CEO Jason Kilar, Juniper CEO Kevin Johnson, former aQuantive and Microsoft exec Brian McAndrews, and board member David Kenny &#8212; I have collected some more that seem to be getting the once-over and are being mentioned internally as well as externally.</p>
<p>Sources said that the Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee at Yahoo, which is run by independent director Patti Hart, has been looking for someone with definite public company experience, as well as expertise in large-scale management.</p>
<p>As to talent, candidates seem to be either good at running big platforms, or deeply knowledgeable about advertising and media as well as technology.</p>
<p>Another important criteria, said sources: Someone who is &#8220;collaborative&#8221; and nonconfrontational. As in, not like the former and very pugnacious CEO Carol Bartz, who was fired in September.</p>
<p>Thus, here&#8217;s another trio of candidates to consider, while we wait &#8212; and who knows how long <em>that</em> will be given that the Asian activity could have tired out for a bit this usually slow-moving board:</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111227/heres-some-more-yahoo-ceo-choices-liddell-rosenblatt-desmond/chris-liddell_100302202_s/" rel="attachment wp-att-157185"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/chris-liddell_100302202_s-313x285.png?resize=313%2C285" alt="" title="chris-liddell_100302202_s" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-157185" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Chris Liddell</strong>: The former CFO of Microsoft is an interesting name that just popped up recently, and it makes some sense when you think about the possible mindset of the Yahoo board.</p>
<p>Liddell, who has a charming New Zealand accent, did a short stint, from January of 2010 to March of this year, as CFO at General Motors. Recently married to another former Microsoft exec, he has since been living in New York.</p>
<p>He apparently loves living in the Big Apple.</p>
<p>But when he left GM, Liddell made it clear he wanted to go for a top job next. He was among the candidates for a recent search for a CEO of Time Warner&#8217;s Time Inc. (an effort that was run by exec search firm Heidrick &#038; Struggles, which is also conducting the Yahoo hunt).</p>
<p>Known as tough and decisive, he certainly is qualified to deal with complex financial situations, such as the one in which Yahoo now finds itself knee-deep. One knock: Little product or advertising experience.</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111227/heres-some-more-yahoo-ceo-choices-liddell-rosenblatt-desmond/canneslionslauradesmond/" rel="attachment wp-att-157189"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/CannesLionsLauraDesmond-218x285.png?resize=218%2C285" alt="" title="CannesLionsLauraDesmond" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-157189" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Laura Desmond</strong>: While certainly a dark horse, Desmond has been queried by Heidrick, said several sources. </p>
<p>She is CEO of Starcom MediaVest Group, a subsidiary of Publicis, one of the largest media planning and buying agencies, making Desmond one of advertising&#8217;s most prominent players.</p>
<p>Well-known in Yahoo&#8217;s key market, she is considered a savvy and smart exec with a wry sense of humor.</p>
<p>I happen to particularly like one line from one of her bios: </p>
<p>&#8220;Ms. Desmond&#8217;s career has been driven by two caveats: Take intelligent risks and learn more from failure than from success.&#8221;</p>
<p>She could learn a lot at Yahoo. (I know, easy jab, but it works!)</p>
<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111227/heres-some-more-yahoo-ceo-choices-liddell-rosenblatt-desmond/david-rosenblatt-new_jpg_280x280_crop_q95/" rel="attachment wp-att-157204"><img src="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/david-rosenblatt-NEW_jpg_280x280_crop_q95.png?resize=280%2C280" alt="" title="david-rosenblatt-NEW_jpg_280x280_crop_q95" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-157204" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p><strong>David Rosenblatt</strong>: The former DoubleClick CEO, who went on to a big ad job at Google after it paid $3.2 billion for the company, is also a long shot, mostly by his own choosing.</p>
<p>The sharp exec is always on the short list of CEO candidates for a lot of big, splashy online jobs, but he seems to want to swim his own way.</p>
<p>Case in point: He was recently named <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111103/dibs-obscure-tech-company-nabs-former-doubleclick-ceo-david-rosenblatt/">CEO of New York-based 1stdibs</a>, a relatively obscure online marketplace known among antique dealers and interior designers looking for one-of-a-kind furniture, art and lighting.</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right: Fancy lamps.</p>
<p>Rosenblatt also serves on the boards at Group Commerce, Twitter and IAC.</p>
<p>All that Internet ad and e-commerce experience is exactly why Rosenblatt would be one of the better choices for CEO of Yahoo. But, for him, I would guess taking such a job is probably in the life&#8217;s-too-short category.</p>
<p>More to come, <em>obvi</em>!</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Intensifies Search for CEO (With Hulu's Kilar as One Dream Unicorn Candidate)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wanted, one magical exec to work miracles against increasingly troublesome dragons. Ability to sparkle a plus.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111220/yahoo-intensifies-search-for-ceo-with-hulus-kilar-as-dream-unicorn-candidate/jason-kilar-unicorn/" rel="attachment wp-att-155623"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/Jason-Kilar-Unicorn.png?resize=480%2C360" alt="" title="Jason-Kilar-Unicorn" class="alignright size-full wp-image-155623" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>Whatever you want to call him or her &#8212; a silver bullet, the cure or, as I like to say, the <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111207/three-months-after-bartzs-firing-its-hurry-up-and-wait-at-yahoo-a-big-honking-update/">last unicorn</a> &#8212; Yahoo&#8217;s ever-seeking and never-deciding board has now renewed its focus on finding a new CEO.</p>
<p>Also on the docket: Working on a deal to sell back at least some of its stake in its twin Asian assets &#8212; Yahoo Japan and the Alibaba Group &#8212; back to the companies. A partial sale of stock back could placate the often tense situation among the partners.</p>
<p>What is clear is that the two bids from private equity firms are now in an undetermined circling pattern &#8212; due to a variety of concerns around shareholder unrest (<em>Occupy Yahoo</em> looms for 2012).</p>
<p>Therefore, the idea of bringing in said fantasy leader to perhaps finally be the one to revive the long-troubled company has returned to the forefront of action, according to numerous sources both inside and outside the company. </p>
<p>The concept in short, said people familiar with the situation: Hire some compelling and entrepreneurial CEO to get the company moving again from a product point of view, do a massive organizational overhaul and help settle Yahoo&#8217;s thorny Asian issues.</p>
<p>While a number of names have been rumored in reports &#8212; such as Google business lead Nikesh Arora, who is actually not likely to leave his top post at the search giant &#8212; sources said the board has been targeting a number of candidates, including Hulu CEO Jason Kilar.</p>
<p>Others on Yahoo&#8217;s wish list include Juniper CEO Kevin Johnson and online advertising entrepreneur Brian McAndrews, who sold aQuantive to Microsoft. There are several others also being considered.</p>
<p>Sources said Kilar has met with Yahoo board members about the offer, but his hiring would be a long shot.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting &#8212; if complex &#8212; gambit to bring in Kilar, who has had his own wrangles with the multi-owner structure of the premium video service over the years. </p>
<p>Kilar&#8217;s status at Hulu has been in question ever since it was <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111013/hulus-owners-call-off-the-sale/">put on the block, then removed</a> and then &#8212; <em>well</em> &#8212; who knows.</p>
<p>Hulu&#8217;s owners &#8212; News Corp., Disney and Providence Equity Partners, along with Comcast (which is a now a passive investor) &#8212; did not like the offers it got from various bidders, including Yahoo. </p>
<p>While the media giants have made noises about wanting to keep a stake in distribution, their commitment to that remains unclear.</p>
<p>The situation has put Kilar &#8212; who already had tense relations with the service&#8217;s shareholders &#8212; in limbo until a valuation is determined next year. Without going into the complex details, Kilar has a large equity stake that could be liquid in April, related to certain rights held by Providence.</p>
<p>It is well known that Kilar has been concerned the team that built Hulu gets some sort of payout for their work. In fact, many years ago, Hulu was seen as a possible IPO candidate.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s not in question is Kilar&#8217;s talent at creating a cohesive team and a compelling product &#8212; especially with an advertising and media focus &#8212; and the need at Yahoo for a vibrant leader to encourage innovation and discourage its rapidly increasing attrition issues. </p>
<p>The search for a new Yahoo CEO &#8212; which is being led by director Patti Hart, and is being <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111013/exlcusive-yahoo-hires-heidrick-struggles-for-ceo-search/">conducted by Heidrick &#038; Struggles</a> &#8212; had been mostly sidelined until recently, as the board solicited bids for a partial investment from PE firms. </p>
<p>Two emerged, from Silver Lake and TPG Capital, which had wanted to pay from $16.50 to $18 a share for a stake of just under 20 percent in what is called a PIPE (Private Investment in Public Equity) arrangement.</p>
<p>But the low price, and worries about lawsuits and even a proxy fight related to such a deal, have slowed down the momentum significantly, said sources. </p>
<p>Instead, Yahoo has told bidders it will get back to them in the coming weeks about the direction it will take. Thus, the focus on lining up CEO candidates and plans related to reviving Yahoo.</p>
<p>Some of those possible execs have put their hand up, while others &#8212; like Kilar &#8212; are being solicited. In addition, some still think that Yahoo board member <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111108/with-no-yahoo-ceo-pledge-david-kenny-back-in-the-strategic-fray/">David Kenny</a> remains an internal option, especially if the board of Yahoo gets a refresh, despite his recent announcement that he has no intention of seeking the job. </p>
<p>In general, this shift should not come has a surprise for the hurry-up-and-wait board of Yahoo, which has struggled over the years to make good choices for the Silicon Valley Internet giant. </p>
<p>That drift has resulted in a downturn in its prospects, even as other companies have surged. </p>
<p>Those troubles were brought into sharp focus in a recent report by new Goldman Sachs Internet analyst Heath Terry, who strafed Yahoo in his &#8220;sell&#8221; recommendation. </p>
<p>Among the gems by an analyst whose investment bank is currently an advisor to Yahoo on its strategic options: </p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>Yahoo simply faces too many competitive and structural headwinds to believe any kind of meaningful turnaround is possible. While there is significant asset value on the balance sheet and in the company&#8217;s large, though increasingly less engaged user base, we continue to believe, as we have since before the first Microsoft offer, that the segment of management driving the company is intent on trying to revive Yahoo as a company, regardless of the cost to shareholders.</p></blockquote>
<p>And, noting the need for a new CEO:</p>
<blockquote class="memo"><p>We would become more positive if we felt there was a likely event in the near term that might unlock the value of the balance sheet assets at Yahoo. While we believe the aggregate value of those assets is above the value reflected in YHOO, in order to be more positive on the stock we would need some proof that management is willing and able to take the steps necessary to unlock that value either through a sale or distribution to shareholders. Meanwhile, the declining profitability of the core display advertising business is masked by a search business that continues to lose share and relies on artificial support from Microsoft. We would become more positive on the core Yahoo business if the company is able to find a new CEO capable of focusing the business on its core advertising and communications opportunities, rationalizing costs, and driving growth. This would require user growth and especially engagement improvements in both online and mobile, improving monetization of advertising inventory, and stabilizing its search business.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words: Wanted, one unicorn to work magic against increasingly troublesome dragons. Ability to sparkle a plus.</p>
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		<title>Wielding a Sword of Damocles, Yahoo's Asian Partners Await Answer on Yet Another Proposal to Buy Back Shares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While last week's swirl around an Alibaba takeover of Yahoo were overhyped and premature, a lot of what will happen depends on negotiations to settle a longtime asset dispute.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/damocles.png?resize=380%2C285" alt="" title="damocles" class="alignright size-full wp-image-149917" data-recalc-dims="1" />There were a <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/yahoo-stock-gets-gaslit-by-bidders-trying-to-thwart-other-bidders/">lot of furious rumors</a> earlier this week that Yahoo&#8217;s longtime Asian partners &#8212; the Alibaba Group and SoftBank &#8212; were poised to lob a $25 billion takeover bomb at the Silicon Valley Internet giant to get back big stakes it holds in their companies.</p>
<p>Though last week&#8217;s reports were overblown and premature, it certainly might come to that at some point if past is prologue &#8212; Alibaba CEO Jack Ma has declared his interest  <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111019/jack-ma-asiad/">publicly a number of times</a> and has certainly been <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111111/alibaba-and-softbank-meet-with-blackstone-as-promised-yahoo-investment-effort-proceeds/">busy lining up his financial and strategic partners</a> to do so.</p>
<p>This is one very sharp <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles">sword of Damocles</a> hovering over Yahoo that could drop at any time and very quickly. It has impact, too, because every day there are unsettling Wall Street whispers that the bid is coming &#8212; I got three today, in fact, that it would happen Monday.</p>
<p>Actually, the day it is most likely to happen is the moment after Yahoo once again turns down the pair&#8217;s latest offer to buy back their shares in a complex tax-free transaction.</p>
<p>This has been a multi-year effort on the part of the trio, one littered mostly with recrimination and tears. Lots and lots of tears.</p>
<p>But this time, it&#8217;s critical to the Asian partners to strike the deal with Yahoo &#8212; and before its current board does another deal with current private equity bidders it is now contemplating. </p>
<p><img src="http://i0.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/image009-380x253.png?resize=380%2C253" alt="" title="image009" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-149934" data-recalc-dims="1" /></p>
<p>Because once new leadership is in power, Ma&#8217;s leverage goes <em>buh-bye</em>. Now, it is a quantum level higher with the old Yahoos than with the next ones, who will have much more control and power over the company. </p>
<p>Thus, the threat of a possible whole company bid at a higher prices &#8212; a tasty treat to disgruntled shareholders &#8212; keeps the pressure on Yahoo&#8217;s current directors not to make a partial deal that is considered wanting.</p>
<p>This bird in the hand is seen as critical to Alibaba and SoftBank, who want only to get back their stakes and not to engage in what would turn into an ugly and hostile battle for control of all of Yahoo. </p>
<p>As one source told me last week: &#8220;The threat of a takeover is more useful than the damage an actual takeover would cause for everyone. No one wants this to be unfriendly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perish the thought!</p>
<p>Yahoo board member Brad Smith &#8212; who is Intuit&#8217;s CEO and president in his spare time &#8212; has become the key man in this whole complex sales process and has also taken up the central role in dealing with the Asian proposal, along with Yahoo&#8217;s interim CEO, Tim Morse, and its legal head, Mike Callaghan.</p>
<p><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/Alexander_cuts_the_Gordian_Knot-367x285.png?resize=367%2C285" alt="" title="Alexander_cuts_the_Gordian_Knot" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-149929" data-recalc-dims="1" /></p>
<p>They have to wrangle what to do with Yahoo&#8217;s 40 percent stake in Alibaba and a 35 percent holding in Yahoo Japan, which makes up a great deal of the company&#8217;s value and has become its most vexing Gordian knot.</p>
<p>Still, after a number of previous efforts failed miserably, Alibaba and Softbank brought yet another proposal to Yahoo in early October that would spin off the stakes to them and also avoid a big tax bill. </p>
<p>The sides have been talking on and off amid the other noise at Yahoo of late, which this week centered on <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/yahoo-bidders-come-in-at-16-50-to-17-50-with-plan-to-keep-jerry-yang-staying-on-board/">low-priced bids for a partial investment in Yahoo</a> from two separate PE firms, Silver Lake and TPG Capital.</p>
<p>Now what Yahoo does with its Asian assets matters to them, too, as both have their own plans for the dispensation of those stakes as key elements of their deals.</p>
<p>So it is not clear what would happen if the Alibaba and SoftBank shares were sold before either deal was done.</p>
<p>But it is unlikely to be a positive thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Asian assets are downside protection if the core Yahoo business is melting faster than anyone thinks,&#8221; said one person. &#8220;Without it there, Yahoo might be a lot more risky to buy into.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like, you might say, trying to catch a falling knife.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Bidders Come in at $16.50 to $17.50, With Plan to Keep Jerry Yang on Board</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the Yahoo turns, the board finally gets down to brass tacks of a possible deal.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111130/yahoo-bidders-come-in-at-16-50-to-17-50-with-plan-to-keep-jerry-yang-staying-on-board/imgres-68/" rel="attachment wp-att-142175"><img src="http://i2.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/11/imgres.png?resize=269%2C188" alt="" title="imgres" class="alignright size-full wp-image-142175" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>Last night, Yahoo&#8217;s board gathered for a pre-meeting dinner, a precursor to a day-long meeting today to weigh several bids from private equity firms to buy part of the Silicon Valley Internet giant, including Silver Lake and TPG Capital.</p>
<p>Among the thorniest of issues will be the low price that the firms want to pay for a 19.9 percent stake in the company. Silver Lake has offered $16.50 and TPG a dollar more. </p>
<p>In the past year, Yahoo share prices have seen a low of $11.09 and a high of almost $19. It closed yesterday at $15.70 &#8212; a price that is mostly due to sale rumors &#8212; making the offers not much of a gain on current market valuation.</p>
<p>The transaction type being contemplated is called a PIPE &#8212; or a Private Investment in Public Equity &#8212; with the investment below 20 percent, which allows Yahoo to avoid a shareholder vote on the issue.</p>
<p>While the Yahoo board had hoped for bids above $20, they are not expected to be forthcoming, considering the weakness in its business over recent years and the difficulty of returning it to health and growth. </p>
<p>Results in its upcoming quarter, for example, are expected to be weak again, with trouble in its advertising business, largely due to uncertainty around the business.</p>
<p>The low price, along with the attempt to bypass shareholder approval, is sure to infuriate Yahoo&#8217;s major investors, given they have watched the value of their stakes wilt over the years under current board management.</p>
<p>In the last five years, due to continually muddled leadership and the missing of key Internet trends, Yahoo shares have dropped 44 percent in value, which compares with huge gains from companies like Amazon and others.</p>
<p>Major Yahoo stakeholders are already irked by the PIPE idea itself, which could transfer power to private equity firms at preferential terms.</p>
<p>Another possible bone of contention will be the preservation of at least some parts of Yahoo&#8217;s current board.</p>
<p>Under a plan by Silver Lake, for example, it would get three board seats, as well as another one for a CEO of its choosing. Another seat will go to Yahoo co-founder and current board member Jerry Yang. There will be six independent board members, but it is not clear if they would be new or include some current directors.</p>
<p>One of the Silver Lake choices would be well-known Silicon Valley legend <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111128/yahoo-will-marc-or-wont-he/">Marc Andreessen</a>, who is now a powerful VC. The appeal of Andreessen is important to some major shareholders who have turned sour on Yang.</p>
<p>Who will be CEO of the rejiggered entity will also be discussed at the meeting. Sources said Silver Lake and TPG have definite candidates in mind and Yahoo has also been conducting an official search.</p>
<p>In other words, there&#8217;s a lot on the plate of Yahoo&#8217;s board today, which also needs to revisit continued proposals from its Asian partners &#8212; China&#8217;s Alibaba Group and SoftBank of Japan &#8212; to sell back its stakes in Alibaba and Yahoo Japan in various tax-free schemes. </p>
<p>Sources said Yahoo &#8212; which has thus far rejected such efforts &#8212; might now consider selling a part of their shares back, up to half. This would allow the company to give a cash dividend to its disgruntled shareholders. </p>
<p>If thwarted, as has been previously reported <em>ad nauseum</em>, Alibaba and SoftBank are considering their own bid with the help of other U.S. private equity firms, such as <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111111/alibaba-and-softbank-meet-with-blackstone-as-promised-yahoo-investment-effort-proceeds/">Blackstone</a>.</p>
<p>Other PE firms &#8212; especially ones who have not signed Yahoo&#8217;s non-disclosure agreement related to any deal &#8212; are also hanging under the hoop, so to speak, to see what happens. At least one firm hopes the Yahoo board will reject the low-priced partial bids, leaving the court wide open again. </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s still anyone&#8217;s game,&#8221; said one possible bidder.</p>
<p>Except for Yahoo&#8217;s put-upon employees and shareholders, this is anything but fun. More on <em>that</em> soon.</p>
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		<title>As Yahoo Ponders Its Fate Endlessly -- Selling Off Yahoo Japan Stake Is Suddenly Its Easiest Option</title>
		<link>http://allthingsd.com/20111103/as-yahoo-ponders-its-fate-endlessly-selling-off-yahoo-japan-stake-is-suddenly-its-easiest-option/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would the sale of its Japanese asset give the Silicon Valley Internet giant at least one silver lining amidst the many dark clouds?]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111103/as-yahoo-ponders-its-fate-endlessly-selling-off-yahoo-japan-stake-is-suddenly-its-easiest-option/yahoo-japan-home-page/" rel="attachment wp-att-140244"><img src="http://i1.wp.com/allthingsd.com/files/2011/11/Yahoo-Japan-Home-Page-348x285.png?resize=348%2C285" alt="" title="Yahoo-Japan-Home-Page" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-140244" data-recalc-dims="1" /></a></p>
<p>I have called Yahoo the Hamlet of the Internet many times, for its seemingly endless ruminating on what it should do and what it should be. </p>
<p>And that is true on a lot of fronts &#8212; from its strategic direction to rejiggering its advertising business to finding solid leadership to whether or not it will sell itself and how to a variety of bidders.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no small irony then that perhaps it&#8217;s only easy move right now and the one most likely to happen soon &#8212; and which could temporarily assuage its always restless shareholders &#8212; is to finally settle a long and arduous effort to sell its Japanese assets.</p>
<p>Sources close to the situation said that the deal &#8212; as has been reported &#8212; is the closest to a deal compared to any other that Yahoo is contemplating. </p>
<p>Sale or outside investment discussions remain mired, while similar share sale discussions with its Chinese partner, Alibaba Group, remain a constant roundelay of dashed deals.</p>
<p>It has not always been thus recently between Yahoo and Yahoo Japan. Just over a year ago, the company <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20100726/yahoo-japan-confirms-google-switch-for-both-paid-and-algo-search/">shifted its paid and algorithmic search</a> from Yahoo to Google, raising tensions between the companies. </p>
<p>Now, though, Japan has become the easy one. </p>
<p>In actuality, striking an actual deal is not and has been a task is on that Yahoo has been working on for many years, trying to figure out the best tax-free way to shed its 35 percent stake.</p>
<p>It makes sense, since the asset is no longer a strategic plus it once was.</p>
<p>It also frees up a lot of cash. As of September 30th, according to Yahoo, the pre-tax value of its Yahoo Japan stake was worth $6.4 billion. Presumably, Yahoo would either use the money to bolster its business or, more likely, give its shareholders some kind of dividend.</p>
<p>In such a deal, Yahoo&#8217;s longtime Japanese partner &#8212; and one of its very first investors &#8212; SoftBank would buy out Yahoo&#8217;s stake. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the simple way of putting a deal that only an accountant can grok. But one plus is that if Yahoo does pull it off, it would be rid the company of one complication too many. </p>
<p>That said, any Japanese asset sale could also be impossible without a larger settlement of Yahoo&#8217;s globally connected issues &#8212; or, as I like to call it, the hairball.</p>
<p>And SoftBank, which already owns a lot of Yahoo Japan would certainly need more than just cash &#8212; perhaps more of Alibaba than it already owns &#8212; to be enticed to buy even more.</p>
<p>Also, for all intents and purpose, SoftBank is the only buyer of Yahoo&#8217;s Japan asset, so there&#8217;s that issue.</p>
<p>But if it could show some progress in some part of its hopelessly complicated world, for Yahoo, that is always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo's Jerry Yang: There Are Plenty of Options Beyond Sale</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ina Fried</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking at AsiaD, Yahoo's co-founder says that the company should be growing faster than it is, but says selling the company isn't the only option for creating shareholder value.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang said on Thursday that the company&#8217;s board continues its strategic review process, but that there are a number of options beyond just selling the company.</p>
<p>&#8220;The intent going in is not to put ourselves for sale,&#8221; Yang said, <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20111019/jerry-yang-rose-tsou-asia/">speaking at <strong>AsiaD</strong></a>. &#8220;The intent is to look at all the options.&#8221;</p>
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<p>And while selling the company as a whole is one option, Yang noted that the company is made up of three key parts &#8212; its core business, its stakes in Yahoo Japan (along with Softbank) and its share of Alibaba.</p>
<p>Asked what he would personally like to see happen with the company, Yang said his goal is just to see Yahoo reach its potential.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are many ways of creating that environment,&#8221; he said. &#8220;So far, we have not ruled out any possibilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yang acknowledged that Wall Street now looks at the company&#8217;s Asian stakes as a significant part of its market value. &#8220;They are looking at a core asset that they don&#8217;t know how to value.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for that core business, Yang insisted that the company remains a premier digital media company, despite its challenges.</p>
<p>&#8220;We ought to be growing, can be growing,&#8221; Yang said, insisting the company has a great brand and 700 million monthly users. &#8220;We really do believe there is a path for Yahoo that can be better and higher growth.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the same time, Yang noted the company is also looking for a new CEO, an effort being led by an independent committee of the board.</p>
<p>&#8220;As these things go there is no CEO until there is a CEO, but the process has started,&#8221; Yang said.</p>
<p>In search, Yang acknowledged that the Microsoft partnership has been bumpy for both sides.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would probably venture that the Microsoft folks would say the partnership hasn&#8217;t gone the way they wanted,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>But Yang said he is hopeful it will yet reach its goals.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think Microsoft is a very, very important partner for us,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I think both sides recognize this is a partnership that has to work over time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yang noted that Microsoft has a lot of good people working on search &#8212; many of whom he noted used to work at Yahoo.</p>
<p>&#8220;It takes trial and error,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It takes work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Alibaba's Jack Ma at Stanford: "We Are Very Interested" in Buying the "Whole" of Yahoo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kara Swisher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In answer to a direct question about whether his company was going to buy Yahoo at a forum at Stanford University in Silicon Valley this afternoon, Alibaba Chairman and CEO Jack Ma said: "We are very interested" in buying all of it.]]></description>
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<p>In answer to a direct question about whether his company was going to buy Yahoo at a forum at Stanford University in Silicon Valley this afternoon, Alibaba Group Chairman and CEO Jack Ma said: &#8220;We are very interested.&#8221;</p>
<p>Said Ma: &#8220;We are very interested in Yahoo. Our Alibaba group is important to Yahoo and Yahoo is important to us &#8230; All the serious buyers interested in Yahoo have talked to us.&#8221; </p>
<p>Finally, at least one crystal clear answer in the confusion at Yahoo. More importantly, it is the first time Ma has indicated that he wanted to be a principal player in any deal around Yahoo rather than an element of a buying group.</p>
<p>Later, in answer to a question I posed about how he was going to do that, Ma said he wanted the &#8220;whole&#8221; company, but that the effort was complicated and included a number of players.</p>
<p>Again, he said: &#8220;We are very, <em>very</em> interested.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also asked him if he had visited Yahoo in his trip to California, which Ma said he has not in 15 days here so far. He said he has mostly been sleeping and eating, as part of a longer-term visit to the U.S.</p>
<p>Ma&#8217;s declaration came as part of a lively closing keynote speech at Stanford University&#8217;s Graduate School of Business, where he talked about the Chinese Internet company&#8217;s growth, focusing on how China is the next great Web economy.</p>
<p>Talking about competitors such as eBay, which have tried to enter the huge Asian market, he joked that &#8220;eBay might be sharks in the ocean, but Alibaba is a crocodile in the Yangtze.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, given his presence in Silicon Valley, one topic of interest was whether Ma would be heading over to visit nearby Yahoo and what role he will play in the current internal debate over the company&#8217;s future in the wake of the ousting of its CEO Carol Bartz.</p>
<p>The disposition on Yahoo&#8217;s Asian assets, which includes 40 percent of Alibaba and a large stake in Yahoo! Japan, are critical to the current strategic review of the company, since they make up a large part of its market valuation.</p>
<p>In comparison, the value of its U.S. and other global assets are small.</p>
<p>When later asked about his experience of being involved with Yahoo, which made a very canny investment by Yahoo co-founder Jerry Yang in Alibaba many years ago, Ma also said that he would do it again, but not in the same way.</p>
<p>The same way has to do with the level of foreign ownership, which Ma has been trying to reduce in a number of ways and which Yahoo has thus far resisted.</p>
<p>To answer a question about the fight between Ma and Yahoo over its Alipay fight, when Ma spun it out of Alibaba, he said the situation was tense, but that today &#8220;the problem is solved and I am half-burnt.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was referring to a settlement, which will require a lot of growth from the still-nascent online payment business. </p>
<p>Ma was asked later about the biggest misunderstanding in the U.S. about China and vice versa. &#8220;Our job is not to solve the misunderstanding,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Our job is to change ourselves to solve the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>In another query about his relationship with Yahoo&#8217;s Yang, Ma called him a lifelong friend and also said he appreciated how much that meant to Alibaba&#8217;s beginnings.</p>
<p>&#8220;But, this is business and not personal,&#8221; Ma said about the current situation. &#8220;While we appreciate yesterday, but we are looking for a better tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
<p>The first line, for those not mad fans of the classic movie like me, is from &#8220;The Godfather.&#8221;</p>
<p>The question is, though, will Ma make Yang an offer he can&#8217;t refuse?</p>
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