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SB Nation Sacks AOL in Raid of Former Engadget Team for Competing New Tech Site, As AOL Zeroes in on New EiC

Jim Bankoff, the fomer AOL exec responsible for buying Engadget for the Internet portal, has grabbed eight staffers who had recently left the huge tech site amid tensions, in order to start a new gadget property.

The site–which is still unnamed and will be run by outgoing Engadget Editor-in-Chief Josh Topolsky–will debut sometime in the fall. It is the first content expansion at the Washington, D.C. sports news site SB Nation, which is helmed by Bankoff.

“The technology we built is applicable beyond sports,” said Bankoff, in an interview with BoomTown tonight. “It was an opportunity to apply our model…into another content category where there was an overlap in demographics.”

That would be fanboys and, well, boys-who-will-be-boys.

UPDATE: In related news, sources said that AOL has zeroed in on Tim Stevens, Engadget’s automotive editor to replace the outgoing Topolsky. The New York-based company had already named Darren Murph as its new managing editor.

Now Stevens will be competing with Topolsky, as well as managing editor Nilay Patel, who will also lead the Engadget tech-exodus (techxodus?). The others include former Engadget staffers Paul Miller, Joanna Stern, Ross Miller, Chris Ziegler, Justin Glow and Dan Chilton.

Stern and Ziegler are still on Engadget’s editors site as current employees.

All of the above had left Engadget in a series of departures of late, all due to increasing unhappiness with AOL’s management and content strategy.

Paul Miller and Ross Miller, who are not related, both stated publicly that they did not like the editorial direction AOL was going in, especially a controversial content strategy document titled “The AOL Way.”

In his blog post, Topolsky threw another smackadoo at AOL, noting “SB Nation believes in real, independent journalism and the potential for new media to serve as an answer and antidote to big publishing houses and SEO spam–a point we couldn’t be more aligned on.”

New AOL content head Arianna Huffington has shifted toward a more journalistic path, but the talent bleed began before AOL’s $315 million purchase of the Huffington Post.

In a blog post, which is embedded below, Topolsky said the new SB Nation gadget site will be similar in pace and topic, but it will be broader than Engadget.

The move is an interesting one for SB Nation, which completed a $10.5 million Series C round, led by Khosla Ventures, in the fall.

It had already raised about $13 million in total venture funding from Accel Partners, Allen & Company and Comcast Interactive Capital, as well as from angel investors such as Ted Leonsis and others in Silicon Valley.

In related news, also restarting tomorrow will be a popular gadget podcast that Topolsky, Patel and Paul Miller had done for Engadget.

The New York Times’ David Carr mentioned the new site in the middle of a column earlier tonight.

Here is Topolsky’s blog post on the move, titled “This Is My Next Project”:

As you may have already heard (or read), there’s some activity going on in the world of Joshua Topolsky. Earlier this evening, David Carr published a piece in the New York Times about a new project that I’m embarking on…and I want to just say a few things about it.

Firstly: yes, this is happening. I’ve decided to join the team at SB Nation to build something brand new in the tech space. Now I know it might seem odd to some that I would be partnering with a sports publisher to build a technology news site, but that’s only half the story. This isn’t just about sports, or tech, or lone silos. What we will build together at SB Nation is a new media company–buoyed by the absolutely incredible work SB Nation has already done in publishing–and part of that new media company will be the as-yet-unnamed gadget and technology site that I’ll be working over the next few months to create. When we launch (hopefully in the fall), I will be editor-in-chief of a property that I hope will inform, entertain, and engage fans of technology in whole new ways.

I should say that I wouldn’t want to build something like this alone, and thankfully, I won’t have to. I’ll be joined by some very good friends at this new venture–people like Nilay Patel, for instance.

Of course, the natural question I’m sure a lot of people have is: why SB Nation? The easy answer is that the people at SB Nation share my vision of what publishing looks like in the year 2011. They think that the technology used to create and distribute news on the web (and mobile) is as important as the people who are responsible for the content itself. And that’s not just pillow talk–SB Nation is actively evolving its tools and processes to meet the growing and changing needs of its vast editorial teams and their audience communities. They’re building for the web as it is now. From the perspective of a journalist who also happens to be a huge nerd, that’s a match made in heaven. SBN isn’t just another media company pushing news out–it’s a testbed and lab for some of the newest and most interesting publishing tools I’ve ever seen. In short, I was blown away when I saw what kind of technology they’re using to get news on their front page and engage audiences, and even more blown away when I started talking to them about what could come next.

But beyond the technology (and possibly more important than the technology), there’s another factor here that’s driving my decision. It’s that SB Nation believes in real, independent journalism and the potential for new media to serve as an answer and antidote to big publishing houses and SEO spam–a point we couldn’t be more aligned on. This is a group of people that not only think independent media works, but are reaping the rewards of new publishing done right. As the fastest growing online sports publisher, they’re seen as a source for credible and honest journalism, which is why industry stalwarts like Rob Neyer have recently joined their ranks (ranks which include hundreds of talented sports experts). This isn’t tabloid page grabbing or content farming–it’s news and insight by and for a passionate and informed group of people. And that’s exactly where I want to be.

So, what happens next? We get to work.

In the coming months I’m going to be laser focused on one thing: building the best tech site in the world–and I would love to hear what you guys think the next phase in technology and gadget news should look like. Ping me with ideas, gripes, or even better–come and work here! SB Nation is looking for new developers as we speak, and as we ramp up to launch, we’ll be bringing on lots of talent to work both on the front page and behind the scenes.

I couldn’t be more excited and enthusiastic about what we can build right now, and I can’t wait to share what we’re going to make with the rest of the world. The months ahead are going to be filled with lots of early mornings and sleepless nights, intense debates, triumphs, and trials–and I can’t wait.


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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1580714328 Pratik Patel

    Awesome! I’m so happy to see them all together!

  • Anonymous

    Reminds me of the season of Mad Men, where Don Draper and close colleagues leave to start their own firm . . . and leave behind the undesirables . . .

  • Anonymous

    Awesome, the band is getting back together :)

  • Anonymous

    Congrats AOL! You have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

  • http://twitter.com/nickdube Nicholas Dubé

    I cannot wait for the pod casts

  • Anonymous

    Spoiler dude.

  • Anonymous

    SBNation is a step away from BleacherReport, tons of SEO linkbait about menaingles events.

  • eyesparky

    Related news … podcast? Where? When? ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Jones/1413952399 Philip Jones

    HELL YEAH!

  • http://twitter.com/KashifPasta Kashif Pasta

    WHOOOO! So down for this. I feel bad for Darren Murphy, Richard Lai, Tim Stevens and Vlad Savov though (my other favourite Engadgeteers)! Maybe they’re on the way.

    This is good news regardless, Joanna Stern’s departure was when the techxodus really hit me, so I can’t wait to see what happens over at SB Nation! Which I’ve never heard of. REALLY hope they come up with a great name for the tech site.

  • Anonymous

    Oh boy, SBNation, the next bastion of flaming Apple fanboy rhetoric and blatantly ignorant anti-Flash propaganda. I can’t wait to read all about it NOT.

  • http://allthingsd.com/boomtown Kara Swisher

    Tim seems to be new EOC/

  • Anonymous

    You don’t happen to be related to Nilay, do you?

  • Anonymous

    Well don’t read it – we don’t want you there either. Hopefully they’ll implement a killer comment system which prevents phandroids/trolls from commenting!

  • http://robblatt.com Rob Blatt

    I wonder if Kara got permission to republish someone’s entire blog post.

  • Anonymous

    This is great news. I’m glad they’re sticking together to create a new site. I’m genuinely excited and can’t wait to see their new work.

  • Anonymous

    Really? Find some. SBN’s baseball site is first class. It’s only “menaingles” if you don’t like sports.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if this isn’t just an AOL bitter party without thinking things through. The time has passed on geek blogs raking in monumental traffic and monetizing it (one of the reasons AOL is squeezing to SEO) and it remains to be seen whether they will actually end up doing this, or just talking about it for awhile. SBN has investors who want returns just like AOL.

  • http://www.s-consult.com Wayne Schulz

    I’m not sure I am buying the grass is greener theory. As someone else points out SB Nation wants a return on investment too. If the whole pure journalism play worked so well more sites would be doing it.

    One thing that struck me really oddly was the playing up of the content management system on SB Nation. These content management systems (and site redesigns) are a dime a dozen and easily duplicated. If a cool CMS really is a distinguishing feature I’d bet it won’t be in a year.

    I’ll probably listen to the podcast though honestly in the last 6 months it really deteriorated into a “we’re great and every other site is lame”.

    For now sit back until AOL buys up SB Nation.

  • Anonymous

    Well thats kinda crazy when you think about it.

    http://www.anon-tools.no.tc

  • http://twitter.com/JasonDFW Jason

    I agree, I just hope they do them more frequently.

  • http://bmichael.me/ bmichael

    I landed here from a post by Mark Coatney (formerly of Newsweek, now of Tumblr) that asked why Swisher thought it was ok to just copy/paste someone’s (Topolsky’s) entire post. And I’d like to ask that, too.

    There’s already a hyperlink to Topolsky’s post. I’m not really sure that it’s a very above board thing, to entirely steal someone’s work for your own site.

  • Anonymous

    I gave up on Gizmodo years ago, when they acted like pre-teens pranking vendors at trade shows. And they removed commenting privileges from anyone who dared to criticize them for it.

    AOLs takeover of Engadget was the day that site’s downfall began. So I’ve been looking for a new tech site besides Arstechnica (my favorite by far) to read regularly, and this one will certainly get a good long look.

  • Eludium Q36

    But what if Josh’s and Nilay’s et al best days were at Engadget ? I think it’s going to be very difficult for them to deliver. They traded alot of brand recognition to join a venture no one has heard of — good luck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/miketrose Michael T. Rose

    “These content management systems (and site redesigns) are a dime a dozen and easily duplicated. If a cool CMS really is a distinguishing feature I’d bet it won’t be in a year.”

    That may be generally applicable to smaller sites. At Aol-scale, there are very very few CMSes that actually perform and support multititle, multi-editor publishing in a fluid and manageable way (and none of them rhyme with “Curdbless” :-). You would lose that bet.

    Anecdotally, I know several writers and editors who have left Aol properties to work for other sites — even YEARS later they are lamenting the shortcomings of their CMS tools versus what Weblogs/Aol has, long in the tooth though it may now be.

    Keep in mind also that the designer of the original Weblogs CMS, Brian Alvey, has a successful startup in Crowd Fusion that is driving a new generation of content tools. Clearly there is demand for a better way to do things, and if Josh and his team think that the SB Nation infrastructure is going to give them what they need… I’m inclined to believe that he knows what he’s talking about.

    Of course, the coolest CMS in the world cannot craft a headline, write a post or chase down a story.

  • Anonymous

    Here you go: http://t.co/IAFK5Tg

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2H7S4MG6PLQUVOA2CFNMZ2QUQ Ric Desan

    Its just so refreshing to see other folks cringing at the AOL land grab and see the writing on the wall. No one should ever get in bed with AOL unless its purely a cash out objective. They have demonstrated their ability to kill acquisition targets over and over again.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t need to read it, I can blindly lash out at their bias and be right 100% of the time.

  • Anonymous

    I do hope you see the irony of your comment.

  • Anonymous

    In the end AOL will buy his new site for a cool 10 mil and he will retire.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VUICQIEIM52XZ3RIZCD56FIB6U Brett Levine

    When is Jacob Schulman leaving?!?!?!?!?!!

  • Anonymous

    Worst heading ever. What a confusing bunch of words headlining this article.

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