How about buying Dell for about two quarters worth of profit to “shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders” as Michael Dell suggested Steve Jobs do with Apple in 1997?
Anonymous
I know this is meant to be funny, but they could actually use just a small portion of that money to dramatically help the world. The Gates Foundation is the largest in the world. Where is the Jobs Foundation? Why wouldn’t Jobs join the Giving Pledge like most of the other billionaires? Apple’s charitable donations are conspicuously absent. They have $100billion. Just 1 percent of that could lift millions out of poverty, end malaria, remove the world of mines, you name it.
Anonymous
About the Foxconn comment…..believe me, Foxconn is rolling in cash themselves. Those workers are Foxconn employees, not Apple employees. I’m all for sharing it with the workers, but thats Foxconn’s job, not Apple. I am sure Apple is going to improve their benefits package going forward, as they already have started that process, even when Steve was still active. And, note the charitable gifting program set up under Tim Cook.
Anonymous
They have already started with a “small” step, which is matching their employees charitable gifts.
Anonymous
Well, that’s good, I didnt know about that. Just to see what that might be though I did a little math. They have 60,000 employees worldwide. If every employee gave $1000/yr (and I really doubt thats the case), then Apple would be contributing $60million/yr. That still seems really tiny in proportion, but someone please check my math as its not my strong suit.
Anonymous
How about use some of that money to move their production to the US?
Anonymous
Rather than claim no responsibility and turn a blind eye… how about Apple stop using a third-party Chinese manufacturer and build stuff themselves here in the United States?
http://twitter.com/ywamer ywamer
Or just a token investment in moving *some* manufacturing to the States. Even for something minor, like the iPod nano. Then at least they could show that they give a flip and satisfy those of us with a conscience.
Anonymous
Give some back to shareholders who have stood for a long time behind Apple. This is after all the point of “investing” … to make a little bit (without having to sell off shares).
I just in case there are 99 per centers out there who feel compelled to comment, I have already paid income tax on the money I used to buy Apple stock originally and I will of course have to pay another 15% on the profit I receive, bringing my total tax paid to our bloated Federal government on the whole thing to about 45%. Sorry, not matter what you say, that’s not fair.
http://tech-shizzle.com/ rsbell
BS. The workers got paid already. And they got paid better than they would have if they weren’t working at Foxconn. HP isn’t paying extra for the same workers. Neither is Microsoft (Foxconn makes the Xbox 360). Why should Apple?
The suicide rate at Foxconn is lower than the Chinese national average.
Like “Antennagate”, this is just a media whoring.
Hey, I have an idea-if the working conditions are so bad, maybe the workers should leave.
http://tech-shizzle.com/ rsbell
Yeah-Apple should just crap out an entire supply chain, manufacturing infrastructure, and trained and educated workforce.
Maybe they could do that by next Tuesday.
Anonymous
Yes, Chinese manufacturing workers who are struggling to put food on their families’ tables should just up and leave Foxconn, and then what? If they’re lucky, they’ll find employment at another manufacturing plant that treats them at least as bad, or worse, than Foxconn.
Or, companies like Apple, Microsoft, and HP could get together and put real pressure on Foxconn to actually make an effort in improving workplace conditions for its employees. They obviously can’t dictate what Foxconn chooses to pay its employees, but they sure can band together and strong-arm Foxconn into treating its employees like people. But, they don’t, and the sad reality is that they don’t do it because they just don’t care until it starts to bite them in the ass with negative PR.
Yeah, because it has worked so well for the American auto industry.
http://twitter.com/Dylan_S_Wilson Dylan Wilson
Holy fuck, what is this, communism? Give the workers a share? As I recall we live in a capitalist nation where the money you make is entitled to you (after taxes of course) and you have every right to do whatever you want with your money. Its easy to tell someone to share when whats wanting to be shared isn’t yours.
Anonymous
As a house flipper, I totally understand your sentiment. When I sell a house, I pay tax on the profit, and use the remainder to fix up another house. I shouldn’t have to pay tax on the profit I earn from the second house I made profit on, because I already paid tax on the first house. In fact, after paying the income tax on money I put in first, I should never have to pay any income tax on any profits I make on anything from then on, because I’ve already paid income tax once in my life, so all the other profit doesn’t count.
Apple sells more products overseas than in the US. Some time in the not so distant future their largest market may well be China. Would anyone be surprised when China demands that Apple move its design and HQ to China? Will any of those wanting Apple to manufacture in the US be OK with that.
I think it is time to stop asking for the impossible and accept that neither Apple nor the US government or the EU can exert enough pressure to make China abandon its proven ways to success.
Anonymous
Sure they can (dictate what Foxconn pay). Why couldn’t they? Technically, its no different from any other contractual specification. Reality is, they’re simply not willing to do so.
Anonymous
Forget the United States! That ship has sailed a long time ago and is not coming back.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZVP3GED4Y6EOS7VJLKG6QTOMRE Alexander
you mean like how Microsoft and HP does. oh wait.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZVP3GED4Y6EOS7VJLKG6QTOMRE Alexander
So Ford can make Goodyear pay their employers more too?
Anonymous
Not only do american auto makers have plants in the US, but more and more foreign car companies are building cars here too.
I realize it’s a big leap to get high tech manufacturing back to the US–but it’d be a more noble effort than building a store out of diamond or ski resort out of money! ;)
http://www.facebook.com/adam.reinart Adam Reinart
How about they don’t share the profits with the workers that help them make it because it wasn’t the workers idea, they were hired for labor; if they have a great idea then begin production on that. That kind of logic is where socialism comes into play.
http://www.braincellsoup.com BillV
Profit sharing is nothing new, and certainly not “communist”. I’ve worked for several companies that shared a portion of their profits. It was appreciated, and gave the employees a vested interest in working effectively.
http://www.braincellsoup.com BillV
To Alexander
”Make them”?, not exactly, but they could use it as a bargaining point in contract negotiations.
Companies like Apple are making billions with things the way they are. Why do you think they aren’t making that sh*t in the US, UK or Germany or something? It’s too bloody expensive, that’s why. We all want a union-negotiated 40 bucks an hour, health insurance, gym membership, childcare, 401k………….A little bad PR isn’t going to make them give up massive profits by forcing companies like Foxconn to improve pay or conditions. The manufacturers might relent and do so, but they’d pass the costs of doing these things on as THEIR contract stipulation. Apple’s profits would drop, and that 2300 dollar macbook would cost even more. Timmy needs a new yacht.
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